2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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I think Trump failed but I thought he failed against Hillary as well.
A reminder that back in 2016, so many moderates were on the fence with either, because they had this 'how bad could Trump possibly do' attitude
 
Trump just openly describing some of his plans to railroad what's left of American democracy is a fitting end to this clown show.
 
I zoned out for about 20 minutes, but I didn't see anything that suggested Trump landed any sound blows on Biden. The constant barrage of bullshit takes away from anything specific.
 
I agree Biden did way better in the 2nd half but his strength is not shouting from a platform. Its townhall style and engaging with people - which I assume wont happen bc of Covid.

Biden shouldnt be worried about his base. He should attack Trump's.

At this race there's not much swing voters, each sides would have made up their mind. You just need to reinforce your base and that's what Trump's doing.

Trump might be a trainwreck, but biden is only better because he keeps Donnie running the show
 
They both missed so many open goals.

Biden definitely did well every time he addressed the camera. Those bits will resonate. The only times he sounded coherent.

Trump just kept garbling while Biden and Wallace were talking and couldn't even hear most of it. Looked like he lost the plot very early on.
 
I know Trump really wants to be president.


But I can't imagine he enjoyed any of that. And that gives me some pleasure.
 
Psst Berba.. Bernie and AOC are not on that stage right now. Why the hell would Biden not want to implement his own plan?

yes, defending their loser policies will confuse his subruban base and scare them into thinking he might also be for the GND
 
I know Trump really wants to be president.

But I can't imagine he enjoyed any of that. And that gives me some pleasure.
Haven't seen him so sweaty and flustered in a long time. Most of the world thought Sleepy Joe would be in trouble when Trump drags him down and bashes him tonight, but it felt like the underdog won. Biden came off looking more presidential, Trump looked like the villain trying to dethrone him.
 
Well that was a total train wreck.

I remember these debates being more civil.. and fun.
 
Well - pretty much yes exactly

so why did he defend it!? he should have said - i dont want that expensive shit, i beat the guy who did (both are quotes from him). consistent message. not this.
anyway it wont matter, the whole thing was so incoherent. this is the kind of "gaffe" that would have mattered in a 2008 or 2012 debate.
 
Two elderly brain dead opposing neighbours having a Christmas/Thanksgiving spat. Shakespearean at points when the topics of the sons came up.

7/10
 
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A friend of mine saying Trump knows what he's talking about... what the actual feck are these people on ???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adderall ?
Haven't seen him so sweaty and flustered in a long time. Most of the world thought Sleepy Joe would be in trouble when Trump drags him down and bashes him tonight, but it felt like the underdog won. Biden came off looking more presidential, Trump looked like the villain trying to dethrone him.
I think it might be the first time someone told him to shut up in 4 years.
 
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