2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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you havent refuted a single point she made
Having very different opinions to Biden is fine, and yes, what she said is right (but then again, almost the entire Democratic Party would have been a center right party in Europe). But these things don’t help at all now that there are less than 10 months before the election. Biden has been demonized more from the left wing of the party than from Republicans and in (quite likely) case that he will win the nomination, this is gonna be a problem. I know that people who think on black and white (Bernie or bust) would like those types of scenarios, but it is gonna be very damaging long term.
Biden is a Republican in everything except name.
Otherwise he wont be thinking of having a Republican as a VP.
Those who think only in terms of beating Trump (this is the mantra of the Democratic party) have not thought things through at all.
The current Democratic party offers Nothing for working families.
We are talking of killing innocent people in a war. heck the Democrats are happy to do that here...by denying people affordable health care.
Only one candidate is for single payer.
Every Democratic candidate who is not for it is disqualified from representing working families and the poor.
As Nelson Mandela said "Its always seems impossible until it is done"
Otherwise he wont be thinking of having a Republican as a VP.
Those who think only in terms of beating Trump (this is the mantra of the Democratic party) have not thought things through at all.
The current Democratic party offers Nothing for working families.
We are talking of killing innocent people in a war. heck the Democrats are happy to do that here...by denying people affordable health care.
Only one candidate is for single payer.
Every Democratic candidate who is not for it is disqualified from representing working families and the poor.
As Nelson Mandela said "Its always seems impossible until it is done"
Biden isn't a Republican. He's the same sort of corporate Democrat that's been running the party since at least the Clinton Era.
If he isn't a Dem, then there wasn't one for several decades.
If he isn't a Dem, then there wasn't one for several decades.
He's well on the right of his own party, and got his start as a *Northern* Democrat making compromises on civil rights issues and overtures to segregationists (a time he looks back fondly on).
He's not really far on the right of his party though. This party isn't constructed of AOC's and Bernie. Bernie isn't even a democrat technically.
Biden is a basic establishment Dem.
Exactly the same mentality as momentum in the UK, ideological purity takes precedence over actually having the power to change things.
Joe Biden is running on the explicit promise that he won't change things.
Its still a rubbish way to campaign. If someone else gets nominated they'll want Biden's supporters to vote for them, telling them your not in the same party isn't a great start.
Yeah hes a crap candidate, but still the most popular. AOC is preaching to the choir and pissing off the voters Bernie Sanders will need support from to beat Trump. Its counter productive and serves 0 purpose. I dont care that she's right, it'll mean feck all if / when Trump gets reelected
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/06/politics/fact-check-biden-iraq-war-repeat-iowa/index.html
Fact check: Biden again dishonestly suggests he opposed the Iraq War from the beginning
Do you not think that his open contempt for young people and his open contempt for activists and telling people to his left to literally "vote for Trump" might do that all on its own? He's the 80-year old presumptive presidential nominee, former VP, and million term senator who talks incessantly about coming together with opponents with decet favourables and massive nae recongnition, she's the widely-hated 1st-term legislator who isn't even old enough to run for president.
Also please look at the GOP, an actually successful party, and how they deal with their right wing.
I have no regard for Biden, I dont particularly care what he does. I wish those i do have regard for were more savvy or cynical or strategic in their comments leading up to an election. It would help (it'd help them to be specific, dont care much about Biden)
The Squad, on the right side of history again. Ro Khanna had put in stipulations in the bill that would have stopped Trump doing this .But trusting corporate Dems stripped it out of the bill and gave Trump everything he needed.
It's obvious that he either suffers from some degenrative memeory disease, or that he has worked out a deal with the party establishment and donors to make more welfare spending cuts in exchange for keeping the lower-half Trump tax cuts.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he reaches some deals with McConnell. They are old friends and have done deals in the past.
Of course, a deal likely means meeting in the middle.
How is this drone strike different from all the previous ones. Drones have always been in the budget.
A pessimistic take on the 2020 elections:
Top 4 is Bernie, Biden, Warren, and Buttigeig.
Warren and Butt consistently draw or lose to Trump in polls. Barring a Sanders collapse or an examplary showing by Butt in Iowa, they aren't getting the nomination either.
That leaves Bernie or Biden.
Bernie's H2H polling with Trump has been ok, nothing spectacular like he enjoyed in 2016 (but those nice numbers for Bernie only solidified in Feb/March 2016, so it might be worth waiting). During the campaign, Bernie's strength will be volunteers and ground-game and possibly outreach to non-voters. Trump will hit him for socialism. It's a toss-up, and after Corbyn I think Trump will win.
Biden's numbers are generally better. Again, worth waiting for a few months as the candidates and issues become clearer. But it's about where Hillary was. In Biden's favour is that he seems to appeal better than Hillary to blue-collar workers. Against him is that he doesn't even do the pandering to wokeness and young people that Hillary does, he has open contempt. The hidden issue is Ukraine. The Dems have impeached Trum over it, but Biden too has been dodging hearings. His son did shady shit and it seems Biden was peripherally involved. Just like the emails, it could be Trump's cudgel. I think this too is a toss-up but with Trump shading it.
Top 4 is Bernie, Biden, Warren, and Buttigeig.
Warren and Butt consistently draw or lose to Trump in polls. Barring a Sanders collapse or an examplary showing by Butt in Iowa, they aren't getting the nomination either.
That leaves Bernie or Biden.
Bernie's H2H polling with Trump has been ok, nothing spectacular like he enjoyed in 2016 (but those nice numbers for Bernie only solidified in Feb/March 2016, so it might be worth waiting). During the campaign, Bernie's strength will be volunteers and ground-game and possibly outreach to non-voters. Trump will hit him for socialism. It's a toss-up, and after Corbyn I think Trump will win.
Biden's numbers are generally better. Again, worth waiting for a few months as the candidates and issues become clearer. But it's about where Hillary was. In Biden's favour is that he seems to appeal better than Hillary to blue-collar workers. Against him is that he doesn't even do the pandering to wokeness and young people that Hillary does, he has open contempt. The hidden issue is Ukraine. The Dems have impeached Trum over it, but Biden too has been dodging hearings. His son did shady shit and it seems Biden was peripherally involved. Just like the emails, it could be Trump's cudgel. I think this too is a toss-up but with Trump shading it.
The Republicans will run on this.
"Trump was impeached to help Biden when all Trump was doing was getting to the facts."
AOC is right. She is also bae.
yup.
Just like Hillary deleting those 30,000 emails which she did illegally, this will hang around Biden's neck.
good luck to the Dems.
I guess that's what you get when you have 70 year olds running for the highest office.
That's the Millennial vote wrapped up then.
Have Biden and Bernie done something similar ? It seems Warren problem is that she really is the candidate Clinton was pretending to be in 2016.
That's the problem though, it absolutely does not mean that with McConnell.
If Biden gets into power then he will definitely reach a deal with McConnell on certain issues and that isn't because McConnell is willing to compromise, it's because it will be every single deal that McConnell agrees with already. McConnell is not going to budge an inch on issues surrounding abortion, taxes, guns or environmental regulations and Biden isn't going to press him on the issues of criminal reform, drug enforcement or immigration because historically he's proven to be hard line on those issues himself. Biden also clearly has issues with single payer health care.
In which case, aside from "He's not Trump", what exactly do people expect to get out of a Biden Presidency? America quite clearly needs a President motivated to make change and fight hard for it to even begin the repair job after Trump. Biden would be a disaster for Democrats because he will amble along refusing to undo the shite Trump did, piss off Democrats for four years and despite that still be cast as a dangerous Democrat ruining America which will recharge the R base for the 2024 run.
I genuinely think he would pardon the crimes Trump is facing when he's out of office "to heal and bind America".
I don't know, I'm not following their campaigns that closely. To me that clip just reeks of someone out of touch with young people, a bit desperate to appeal to them.
Agree 100% with everything here and that is the sad state of affairs for the US. Hard to see anything getting a single iota better with Biden. It won't even stop the incessant whining about Trump on Twitter.
Agree with all of that.
Have you guys seen the new polls out tonight. Steyer is having a late surge.
In the SC scenario, only Biden and Steyer would walk away with delegates.
As long as the economy stays relatively as it is Bloomberg might be one of the few candidates to sway undecideds and centrists. A more intelligent, more successful and less bratty version of Trump (whether all that's true I'll leave in the middle but that's the persona he can easily sell to the average voter. Corporate America and Wall Street will never embrace Bernie or Warren but might be on board with Bloomberg. I do really think it's as simple as that. Again - assuming economic conditions stay as they are.
absolutely no chance
What is wrong with this? First of all I don't believe a male candidate would get the "inauthentic" card pulled out. Male candidates are routinely judge on who would you rather have a beer with. Yang's a goofball but people love it. It would be a fecking joyless campaign if you have to conform to the too cool for school online crowd.
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