2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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So GA will be blue for the first time since Clinton, right? I thought they were uber-conservative regarding abortus and stuff? Did the shooting of Arbery and BLM make that much of a difference in the end?
 
RobinLFC said:
So GA will be blue for the first time since Clinton, right? I thought they were uber-conservative regarding abortus and stuff? Did the shooting of Arbery and BLM make that much of a difference in the end?
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Stacey Abrams deserves a lot of credit for it.
 
Looks like another batch of votes came in in Georgia, 210 for Biden, 30 for Trump.
 
CNN really make it dramatic enough to keep watching don't they :lol:
 
RobinLFC said:
So GA will be blue for the first time since Clinton, right? I thought they were uber-conservative regarding abortus and stuff? Did the shooting of Arbery and BLM make that much of a difference in the end?
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This is actually a really good article for how Georgia turned blue. How Stacey Abrams Is Turning the Tide in Georgia

What she helped do turning a stolen election, voter gerrymandering, suppression into this is remarkable. Along with changing demographics in the state is what made this possible.
 
These news channels are just boring now. They all know, and have for about a day, that this is done and could be called.

Ironically, the one state which is genuinely still to be decided is the one lots have already called - Arizona. Absolutely no idea why people jumped the gun on this.
 
groovyalbert said:
These news channels are just boring now. They all know, and have for about a day, that this is done and could be called.

Ironically, the one state which is genuinely still to be decided is the one lots have already called - Arizona. Absolutely no idea why people jumped the gun on this.
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AP has a near 100% hit rate on their calls. It was indeed premature but I think they'll end up being right in the end.

Don't think they can call PA while Trump is still ahead.
 
Didn't expect to pull off GA. PA is also in the bag then considering the batches left. With AZ and NV he'll make it a sweep.
 
240 votes in a batch? Have they literally just got one person sitting there counting them.
 
groovyalbert said:
These news channels are just boring now. They all know, and have for about a day, that this is done and could be called.

Ironically, the one state which is genuinely still to be decided is the one lots have already called - Arizona. Absolutely no idea why people jumped the gun on this.
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They're not going to call Pennsylvania while Trump is still in the lead no matter how hard it's trending towards a big Biden win. That'll set the nutjobs off even more. The less contested it is, the better.
 
Someone knowledgeable: what are the chances of the Dems pushing through big changes that would shift the balance of power electorally during a possible Biden presidency, e.g - legislative representation for the District of Columbia, reforming the Electoral College, statehood/voting rights for US territories like Puerto Rico?

Do mainstream Dems want these things/see them as achievable and desirable? What would be required to achieve them in terms of votes in the state and federal legislature/courts?
 
Enigma_87 said:
Didn't expect to pull off GA. PA is also in the bag then considering the batches left. With AZ and NV he'll make it a sweep.
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It’s going to make the court route impossible for Trump. One tenuous case against a single state I could imagine, there’s no way he will win multiple states in court.
 
jeff_goldblum said:
Someone knowledgeable: what are the chances of the Dems pushing through big changes that would shift the balance of power electorally during a possible Biden presidency, e.g - legislative representation for the District of Columbia, reforming the Electoral College, statehood/voting rights for US territories like Puerto Rico?

Do mainstream Dems want these things/see them as achievable and desirable? What would be required to achieve them in terms of votes in the state and federal legislature/courts?
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Entirely depends on the Senate. Unlikely though anyway as Biden is going to be working doubly hard to unite the country.
 
jeff_goldblum said:
Someone knowledgeable: what are the chances of the Dems pushing through big changes that would shift the balance of power electorally during a possible Biden presidency, e.g - legislative representation for the District of Columbia, reforming the Electoral College, statehood/voting rights for US territories like Puerto Rico?

Do mainstream Dems want these things/see them as achievable and desirable? What would be required to achieve them in terms of votes in the state and federal legislature/courts?
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Close to zero if the the senate situation stays as it is. This will be a brutally frustrating Presidency for Biden.
 
jeff_goldblum said:
Someone knowledgeable: what are the chances of the Dems pushing through big changes that would shift the balance of power electorally during a possible Biden presidency, e.g - legislative representation for the District of Columbia, reforming the Electoral College, statehood/voting rights for US territories like Puerto Rico?

Do mainstream Dems want these things/see them as achievable and desirable? What would be required to achieve them in terms of votes in the state and federal legislature/courts?
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Someone not knowledgeable: seems rather unlikely since Reps are still controlling Senate and Supreme Court.
 
PA expected in the next hour or two according to their SoS.
 
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