Of course, especially now that all the prices are astronomical. A mediocre player can cost £25m.
2 defenders, 2 midfielders, 1 striker
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About three signings.
Blind - £20m
Smalling - £25m
Darmian - £15m
Lingard - £15m
Fellaini - £15m
Bastian - £10m (US)
Young - £15m (China)
Rooney - £30m (China)
Total = £145m
Net spend won't be that bad with our Adidas warchest.
I'd shave my head and ride around the US on a fecking donkey if we got Verratti, Weigl, Laporte, Fabinho, Saul and Griezmann in the same window. From where do you think we'd get the money..never go full retard man..
BFS will stay, he said so many times, likely that Carrick will go though. His contract is expiring in 3 months and he hasn't been offered an extension.
I personally don't think we'll sign Griezmann or any striker if Ibra renews. And he has been offered an extension. Rooney was already replaced twice over last summer when we brought in Ibra and Mkhi, and Rashford has been trusted a lot more by Mou.
I expect a Fabinho-type player, a LB and a squad player (either a RB or another MC). Then go for a striker next summer when Ibra leaves
Apparently Fellaini was offered to the Chinese last month but had no takers, according to the Sun and Daily Star so wouldnt surprise me if he left.
This is comical Rawkish stuff saying we need six or seven new players. Then in two years time the very same posters will be saying we need another new seven players. And the year after that and the year after that.
We need about three players. Four tops.
We need about three players. Four tops.
Obviously I need to go over to Oslo to shop for weed from now on, because they are clearly smoking some voodoo level stuff over there.
3 or 4 of our 1st team have only been with us 12 months. I don't think Jose will venture to make too many changes. If we make 2 changes I want them to be midfielders.
....................De Gea..................
Valencia..Jones..Bailly...Blind
KEITA...Herrera..PAREDES..Pogba
...Zlatan..Martial............
2nd team:
.....................Romero..........
Young..Smalling..Rojo..Shaw
Mata..Lingard...Carrick..Fellaini.
........Rashford..Mkhitaryan
That's a first team with 5 players with 12 months service or less.
If I had the luxury of choosing a 3rd signing, I'd probably take Griezmann. But it's a tough decision because of his price tag.
Most people may not agree but even with 2 new signings our midfield will still have shallow depth with only Lingard, Carrick and Fellaini in reserve.
You could say I've chosen a 4-2-2-2 formation with 2 cms: Paredes & Herrera, 2 ams: Pogba & Keita, & 2 strikers: Zlatan & Martial.
....................De Gea..................
Valencia..Jones..Bailly...Blind
KEITA...Herrera..PAREDES..Pogba
...Zlatan..Martial............
2nd team:
.....................Romero..........
Young..Smalling..Rojo..Shaw
Mata..Lingard...Carrick..Fellaini.
........Rashford..Mkhitaryan
That's a first team with 5 players with 12 months service or less.
If I had the luxury of choosing a 3rd signing, I'd probably take Griezmann. But it's a tough decision because of his price tag.
Most people may not agree but even with 2 new signings our midfield will still have shallow depth with only Lingard, Carrick and Fellaini in reserve.
You could say I've chosen a 4-2-2-2 formation with 2 cms: Paredes & Herrera, 2 ams: Pogba & Keita, & 2 strikers: Zlatan & Martial.
Why? Wouldn't Griezmann be a #10? Mkhi and Martial as wingers, Ibra a #9. Rashford and Mata will be subs.
First off we don't play with a #10 all games. When we need to play with 3 in the middle (like Carrick) Mata drops out, that's our current situation. Mkhi plays the RW role in that case and he's a good RW, he spent most of his time at BVB there.
Bringing in Griezmann and playing him as #10 or as RW would be criminal as neither position is best for him. He's been a support striker in a 4-4-2 for Atleti and the lone striker for France. He's played as #10 and he can be good there (so long as he doesn't have to defend much) but he's not a good winger.
Basically he's too expensive a purchase for a position that doesn't always exist in our system. Same applies for DM, we might by a £30m DM, but not gonna spend £80m on one when we play 4-2-3-1 in half our games.
It's just one of these things (the Griezmann transfer) that I personally don't think will happen because we won't be interested, ultimately. But I might well be proven wrong. We'll see.
Left back should be number 1 priority this Summer. Intelligent managers are targeting us there and i can see the likes of city ripping us apart with their cut backs from that side.
True. When 21 year olds are being touted for 40-50 million, 100 million doesnt seem a vast amount anymore
Mkhitaryan wouldnt be in the second team as he was one of Mourinhos buys this season
Just out of curiosity - how would you compose the United-midfield with Zlatan up front and both Pogba and Griezmann in the side ?
They assume Griezmann will take Mkhi's position as #10. But Mkhi does a lot of work in midfield as #10 which Mou likes, whereas Griezman plays more like a 2nd sstriker. Not too mention we don't always play with a #10. I just don't see it
He will play behind the striker and Mkhi will play out wide, both like to roam around the channels anyway so they won't be static in their positioning.
its an obvious joke ffs
The players suggested in most of these threads are exactly that. There's no real game plan except "pay to win". Call me romantic, but this whole "galacticos" thing isn't how I imagined United becoming.
I like how the transfer forum now has two seperate threads of people talking about us signing 5 or more players but not a single one talking about us signing '2 to 3', which is how many our manager says we will buy.
How much to we get from Adidas? bear in mind we have spent loads already and there is a finite amount. no one is buying Smalling for 25 mill and you are making big assumptions that we will get 55mill for the bottom 3. what if they dont want to leave?
If we get Griezmann, he'll play wide in tough games and behind Zlatan in other matches. For I expect Mourinho to employ 4-2-3-1 more often next season. And given how Griezmann thrived at the Euros playing off a big man, I expect Mourinho to lean towards a similar set up most games.
Greizmann is probabaly the best forward we can buy this summer. He's relative young, good friend with Pogba and he will fit in well with our other new players talking both French and Spanish. He can play in multiple positions and he's a proven goal scorer.
No club in our position would say no to such a player if they can afford him.
No club in our position would say no to such a player if they can afford him.
I had to remind myself, several times, while reading this thread that it is only football and not worth raging over. Some of the posts in here are ridiculous. Unrealistic signings and so much underrating of our current players.
IMO, We need three players right now. LB if Mourinho indeed doesn't rate any of our current options, a CM who can slot comfortably along with Herrera and Pogba in a 3 or either of them in a two, and a versatile forward who can play off the striker, as a striker, or even on the wings (yes I have someone in mind
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IMO, We need three players right now. LB if Mourinho indeed doesn't rate any of our current options, a CM who can slot comfortably along with Herrera and Pogba in a 3 or either of them in a two, and a versatile forward who can play off the striker, as a striker, or even on the wings (yes I have someone in mind
)Buying an 80m player to play him out of position in our most important (tough) games, sounds completely nuts to me. He is not a wide man, like Mata is not a wide man. A #10 maybe but not a winger. A support striker, his best position. Unless we change our system to accommodate him.
The 4-2-3-1 is great against many teams but even against a simply good Southampton team it proved fragile. Can't think of any top European team bar City that plays with less than 3 midfielders (Real, Barca, PSG, Juve all play 3 or 4) in the CL.
Are you guys telling me we're getting Grizi to play him up front (his natural position) when we play Hull at home? Excellent player though he is, this deal does not make sense to me.
I know! And I didn't even include Griezmann either. We sure have some firepower when things start to click.
He did. Mourinho admitted in an interview that he tried to convince Kante to join Utd, but he had already set his heart on living in London and playing for Conte.
I dont believe our manager on this. Given our performance this season, we need to upgrade in 3 positions (LB, CB, DM) and then replacements for a few outgoing players to complete the squad. That's easily more than 2 or 3, else we wont be able to compete on all fronts.
Woodward is under huge pressure to kick start the post SAF revolution. The sooner we win our next league title, the easier subsequent ones will be allowing the club to generate even higher incomes. Assuming we get into the CL I think the club has to go for it next season.
We have aspirations to be the best team in the world. When we have been close to this in the past, we had 5+ world class players. Barcelona, Madrid and Munich at their pomp have had similar. . The current action standard of world class is Neymar, Messi and Suarez or Ronaldo, Benzema, Bale. Thats the level of quality we need. And those players cost at least £90million nowadays
I won't find it shocking if spend £200+million in one window - its simply relative to our income, especially if we can get high earners like Rooney and BFS simultaneously off the wage bill. So I'm expecting us to sign at least 2 massive transfers in the next window. Thats what we need.
I think we need a lot less than people are making out. With a full season, I fully I fully expect Mkhitaryan to score a lot.
Martial and Rashford were both originally used as strikers. What's to say that Martial isn't earmarked at Zlatan's replacement. After all, we did spend somewhere between 30 and 6000 million on him - depending on which reports you read - as a striker.
If Shaw is in Mourinho's plans and can recapture his pre-injury form then I can't see much needing to be done at the back.
A good quality CM to replace Carrick may be all we need.
Martial and Rashford were both originally used as strikers. What's to say that Martial isn't earmarked at Zlatan's replacement. After all, we did spend somewhere between 30 and 6000 million on him - depending on which reports you read - as a striker.
If Shaw is in Mourinho's plans and can recapture his pre-injury form then I can't see much needing to be done at the back.
A good quality CM to replace Carrick may be all we need.
When was the last time Real Madrid or Barcelona sold someone they didn't want to sell?
If you think that you can just buy Barcelona and Real Madrid's starting XI players for fun, you are overestimating your own club.
Griezmann, James, and Fabinho are definitely obtainable however since Griezmann and Fabinho play for clubs who aren't nearly as rich, and James has become a benchwarmer on expensive wages.
That doesn't make much sense - Schneiderlin was about as rated when we bought him as Kante was last summer. Kate obviously has the title in his favour, but Schneiderlin had been impressing over a much longer period.
To the Vidal thread!
Since Jose said 3 or 4 new players:
Fabinho (can play as both DM and RB)
Griezmann
Left Back (Guerreiro?)
Fabinho (can play as both DM and RB)
Griezmann
Left Back (Guerreiro?)
I'm pretty sure that's our A list of summer transfers right there. Wee may possibly have to go Plan B on a couple of them if say Griezmann decides to stay at Atletico or if Chelsea get Bakayoko ahead of us and things like that
First of all, there's not that many players of that quality. Secondly, Barca got spanked by PSG who don't have that level of quality, Verratti is possibly their only worldie player. Mourinho won CLs with Inter and Porto.
My point is, having a balanced well-working team is much more important than having Galacticos (which is what these guys effectively are). I believe with a LB and a CM/DM of his choice, Mou will have a team to challenge anyone. He's got a couple of holes to plug in the team and that's it. Our goalscoring has not been a problem since we worked Martial and Mkhi into the team. Our problem earlier in the season was not playing them.
Zlatan being a machine puts us in a great position in terms of integrating Griezmann (assuming he signs) and maybe adding another winger too. This is definitely a window of strengthing and tweaking rather than replacing key players despite the possibility of Rooney and Carrick both leaving.
It's refreshing to finally be able to entertain a post Rooney era without it seeming impossible because of Moyes and van Gaal.
It's refreshing to finally be able to entertain a post Rooney era without it seeming impossible because of Moyes and van Gaal.
I keep reading these comments, but then look at how many goals he's scored. He's old, but all indications point to him continuing his form next season. We need decent cover - but he's one of the players that don't need replacing
Zlatan was signed as a very short term fix. We may get another year like this one, we also might not. If we don't, we're in big trouble, and anyhow he needs replacing.
Keep Zlatan but we need a his replacement next season as well.
Its imperative to demonstrate the club can will the league without SAF, we have to win the league next year.
1993/94, 1998/99 and 2007/8 are indicative of the level we need to get to: I think Mourinho should be given a squad that can definitely win the league, and then its his managerial nous and luck that delivers it for us.
Sorry, I'm not buying this. We have to challenge, sure. But the wheels won't come off if we don't win it. Which is what you imply by bolding the "have to"