Mr.Sachin Tendulkar. Fooking hell. 
Genius.
Genius.
1st man to score a double hundred in ODI cricket.
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He is just phenomenal. God of Batting.
god
Legend!
No one deserves it more!!
History is made today in Gwalior, India. Sachin Tendulkar is a legend. Is there anything the little master cannot do?
To be fair, isn't that really old news?
Pleased for Tendulkar, but any pitch which is such an uneven contest between bat and ball is a complete joke and not good for the game
Mr.Sachin Tendulkar. Fooking hell.
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And this. Bloody Hell. 200 in an ODI is just amazing.
Today isn't about cricket man. It's all about Sachin.
100 International Hundreds is just around the corner now.
Tendulkar isn't bigger than cricket, it's still an amazing innings, but pitches like this aren't a good thing
Limited over cricket is all about runs mate. Thats what majority of the people want to see.
Why do you think T20 cricket is such a huge hit. Its a mockery of the game but its sheer unadulterated entertainment. Which is why it sells and in order for the ODI's to survive the T20 craze only matches like these can suffice where there is entertainment galore.
People dont want to see a 50 over game where the contest between bat and ball is an even one. Where a team would do well to reach 250 and the chasing team crawling its way there. They would rather see a team smash 350 and the other one chase it down in style.
Unfortunately or fortunately (depends on how you look at it), modern day cricket is about runs and is a batsmans game more than a bowlers.
T20 is like the all star games of NBA.
But 400+ goes beyond this and I'd be suprised if it produced a good game, as scoredboard pressure of 8/over from the get go is going to cause some issues in trying to chase that down
280-320 is about right to produce a perfect contest allowing enough runs but not too many.
And I'm not even sure it is all about runs, wickets going down in a low-scoring game is probably more exciting, lots of 4s and 6s doesn't always make exciting, entertaining yes, exciting, not necessarily
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South Africa have never failed to chase a score of 400+ so..
South Africa have never failed to chase a score of 400+ so..
Its not just the pitch. Earlier you used to have only 0-15 overs where the field was supposed to be limited. Now you have all sorts of powerplays to accomodate the batting team's hitting needs.
The only reason such pitches are made or such rules are incorporated in the game is because thats what sells and because cricket is limited to a small number of nations, the things that are considered to be good and beneficial for the game will never be incorporated into the game.
The only additions or changes that will be made to the game will be the ones that boost ratings, gets in more people and revenue into the game all the while atleast maintaining the level of popularity if not raising it.
Again, that might be your personal opinion and thats rather fair but as I said the general or the majority's opinion differs. What makes it exciting for them is the bundles of runs.
I am a big fan of test cricket and I absolutely loathe T20 cricket. But there's no denying the fact that cricket the game has taken a backseat in favour of entertainment.
Hell, you only have to look as far back as the last ODI world cup in the windies. Stadiums were putting the tickets free of charge just so stadiums could be filled so that it might remotely look like a world cup. Whereas in their domestic T20 tournaments, tickets are sold out way beforehand.
Unfortunately it is the reality, runs, 4's, 6's, amount to exciting cricket.
4s and 6s alone aren't exciting
What makes sport exciting is if there is a contest, which means a contest between the two sides
Just look at this game, the pitch wasn't good, so India have been able to go out and score 400 thanks to an incredible innings from Tendulka, and now SA are 62/3 in reply after 8 overs
So in having to force the innings from the beginning to make the req.RR and they've lost early wickets and it's game over, India have won
That's not an exciting game, entertaining for having seen a masterful innings from Tendulkar, but it's not a good pitch for producing a good game of cricket
This man is a hero no matter who you follow in Cricket. Post Bradman, this man is peerless if only due to his durability not even to mention his talent which in my eyes puts him at the top.
Tendulkar >> Lara
Tendulkar >> Lara
I again think you're taking your personal opinion in account with the majority. The pitch was supposed to generate high scores and an even contest betwee bat and bat. I dont think anyone fathomed the fact that someone was going to score 200 runs alone. And to be fair, whenever a single player has gone on to score in excess of 170 or 180, that team has usually won because no matter how the pitch is or the attack you are facing, to score 150 plus in an ODI game is always a brilliant achievement.
And you're talking about 400 runs which again is not an everyday occurence. The last I remember is way back when in 2007 or something when a team scored 400 runs.
But nowadays when teams do score in excess of 300 and it usually is a competitive game. The last ODI between these teams is an example of that. 300 runs, SA almost chased it down what with fecking it up earlier. This is a special occassion where a team has amassed 400 runs.
Besides 6-7 an over is a norm these days in ODI cricket. So its obvious that somedays some team might touch 8 an over. Before soon, you will see teams chasing that down too and that might become the new norm.
And thats all down to the fact that people love it. Hence the extra batting powerplays and all.
They could have done something to provide the bowlers an advantage too that is to keep a balance. But they didnt. Because that would amount to boring cricket in an average cricket fans eyes.
I don't know where all this BS about last team to score 400 was back in 2007 came about?
India just played Sri Lanka in an ODI a month or 2 ago...India made 414..Sri Lanka chased and made 411 and lost by 3 runs..
It's very chaseable, and has been chased by South Africa too against Australia, so all this bollocks of 400 not being fair and not being a contest or fair to the side batting 2nd is rubbish..
India just played Sri Lanka in an ODI a month or 2 ago...India made 414..Sri Lanka chased and made 411 and lost by 3 runs..
It's very chaseable, and has been chased by South Africa too against Australia, so all this bollocks of 400 not being fair and not being a contest or fair to the side batting 2nd is rubbish..
Congratulations to one of the all time greats, very fitting that Sachin be the man to do it, it does'nt matter if the pitch is a road or not, it's still a fantastic achievement.
400 is the new 300, 300 is the new 250.
You should really read my post before commenting.
I said I personally only remembered a team scoring 400 runs in 2007 or something.
But more to your point, 9 times out of 10 the team chasing 400 runs will lose. Exception of the SA-AUS game, has any team chased it down ? No.
But teams soon will. Because as the game progresses new barriers are crossed.
Is right. Before long, a team will even score 500 in a game.
Which only backs up my point further of limited over cricket being a batsmans game.
Disagree with that. India's the only team constantly going past 300 constantly and this is in part due to us being at home on flat pitches. Another factor is that we've got such a good batting line-up. Lots of power hitters.
I can't see this SA team posting 350+. They're a very solid batting line-up, but have got 1-2 big hitters.
My teacher in my IT lesson today when some of us told him Sachin was on 190, he quickly put the game on the interactive whiteboard and most of our class (being indians) enjoyed him reaching his legendary landmark. Superb.
Fantastic achievement
Only problem is this will just increase Tendulkar fanboyism. And tendulkar fanboys are the most annoying people in sport.
Only problem is this will just increase Tendulkar fanboyism. And tendulkar fanboys are the most annoying people in sport.
The Man's a living Legend. A Century of 100's is just around the corner now.
increase? mate, the man is regarded as a cricketing GOD by a billion people. He's the best player India has ever produced and there is nobody in that country who doesn't know or love what he has done for the game. Not sure how another record will increase his popularity, he's already reached godlike status.
PS. The Torres fanboys are the most annoying people in sport. At least the other fanboys have legitimate reasons to say their guy is the best in the world. The way some scousers wax on about Torres you'd think he's actually won something. (and no, the EURO doesn't count as far as i'm concerned...he was 4th or 5th most important player in that team).
Excellent post.
Nobody is more loved by the Public(in India) than Sachin Tendulkar. The Australian Crowd who are famous for their abuse given to the cricketers always applaud Sachin whenever he comes to the field for batting
The adulation Tendulkar gets is sickening at times. People are happy as long as he gets a 100 even if India lose. Yes he's the best batsmen in the world but he is not a God. The only other sportsman that I have seen get worshipped this much was Maradona and he did perform miracles. Maybe if Sachin had led us to a WC win or a series win in Australia I'd feel it was more justified.
Also our obsession with him probably in a way explains why we haven't produced a world class bowler and considering the amount we invest in the game that's pathetic.
Also our obsession with him probably in a way explains why we haven't produced a world class bowler and considering the amount we invest in the game that's pathetic.
It's Sachin's fault now that we've got shit bowlers?
You're finding the oddest reasons to whine about him. Just enjoy the fact that we've seen him play, stop being so miserable.
Indians are known for going over the top with their adulation for their cricketers and moviestars. But then how's that different from most other sports. United fans sing about Cantona, call him a legend, but can you honestly say he did more for the game then Tendulkar, or Maradona?
It's all relative I guess and people will go overboard with their love and devotion to a particular sports figure. Personally I don't think any man should be labeled a god. They are great at one thing, and you can appreciate that, but that's just how some people are. They need to deify someone to feel good about themselves.
It's all relative I guess and people will go overboard with their love and devotion to a particular sports figure. Personally I don't think any man should be labeled a god. They are great at one thing, and you can appreciate that, but that's just how some people are. They need to deify someone to feel good about themselves.
When Shane Warne, who in my opinion is the greatest bowler to ever take the field tells you that Tendulkar is the best batsmen he has ever bowled to, and that too when both players were in their prime then you have to respect that.
Aussies fans know all about great players, and regardless of the teams success you have to admire the individual talent of the man. Same is true of Lara. He had mediocre players around him, but in his prime he was the difference.
Where did I say it's his fault? I said it's our obsession with him that's at fault.
I have enjoyed watching him play, what I haven't enjoyed is the ridiculous hype that surrounds him.
You're forgetting one thing, he did perform miracles though. We were pretty much a one man team in 1995-98 period, Tendulkar pretty much carried our whole team in that time, whenever he was out, it was inevitable that we lost that match. It was only after the emergence of Dravid and Ganguly that we became less dependent on him.
He was pretty close to leading us to a World Cup win in 1996 and 2003 however due to different reasons we were knocked out of both the cups i.e Pitch being broken in 96 semi final against Lanka whereas our Bowlers especially Zaheer bottled the final match against Aussies in 2003
Your reasoning of India not producing world class bowlers is also bizarre, according to this criteria Argentina's inability to produce world class defenders is a fault of Maradona.
Cricket is more of a team game than football so to expect him to perform miracles like Maradona is very unfair
I'm not blaming him for the WC defeats, just saying the hype is not justified.
Football is definitely more of a team game than cricket. For instance Sachin's performance today basically guaranteed us a win. Individuals have far more impact in cricket.
And Argentina have produced some fantastic defenders. Again you're missing the point I didn't say it was Sachin's fault that we don't have bowlers. He's a great guy by the sound of things, but India as a nation are too obsessed with him.