10 Times United deals have been hijacked

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I thought that maybe those who got tired of the Morata saga can come relief themselves with some of our transfer feck ups. I think for most the major heartbreak was the Ronaldinho deal. The hazard deal was disappointing at the time not heart breaking but you have to think that if we had him we would be in a better position right now. I also didn't know that we tried to sign Ballack but turned us down because he thought he would win ucl with Chelsea

10 times Man Utd have seen transfer deals hijacked since 2000

Manchester United have already secured one signing this summer and are close to getting a few more.

They’re likely to get them, too. One year into José Mourinho’s reign Manchester United are a sleek transfer machine. They identify the players they want, and go get them.They may miss out on a player, Antoine Griezmann chose not to turn his back on Atlético Madrid in their hour of need, but they are unlikely to lose out on them to another club.Even very recently, this wasn’t always the case. Manchester United have a long history of seeing their transfer deals get hijacked by more decisive clubs.

Remember the 80’s? Paul Gascoigne was the hottest prospect in English football and Manchester United had all but agreed to sign him, until Spurs bought his parents a house and, ever the loyal son, Gazza signed for them instead. A move he has since regretted.

And who could forget United’s pursuit of Alan Shearer in the 90’s, where Newcastle came in with a world record bid and the chance to play hometown hero for his boyhood club, beating the Red Devils to the punch.

Things didn’t get much better after the turn of the century, either. In fact they got worse. Here are 10 of the biggest Manchester United transfers that got hijacked by other clubs since the year 2000:

Ronaldinho
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Year: 2003

Selling club: PSG

Hijacker: Barcelona

Fee: €30m

The transfer that shaped football as we know it today. United were looking so likely to get Ronaldinho they even signed Kleberson just to keep him company. But Barcelona and their Brazilian contacts came in and secured the player’s heart and United were left to look on enviously as Ronaldinho took the Blaugrana to the top of world football.

Quote: “Yes, I could have played for another club, but I went to Barcelona because of my friendship with Sandro Rosell. I could have played for Manchester United.”

Arjen Robben
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Year: 2004

Selling club: PSV

Hijacker: Chelsea

Fee: £12.1m

United are known for their flying wingers and in 2004 it seems Sir Alex Ferguson had identified his next great one, and true David Beckham replacement, in Arjen Robben. But United wasted time haggling over a fee and Chelsea came in and blew them away, securing the dynamic Dutchman.

Quote: “My meeting with Sir Alex Ferguson went very well,” says Robben, “and I was ready to sign. But I was convinced by Ranieri and Kenyon – they told me the whole Chelsea story and it appealed to me.”

John Obi Mikel
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Year: 2006

Selling club: Lyn

Hijacker: Chelsea

Fee: £12m

Manchester United actually signed John Obi Mikel in 2005. He even had a press conference in the shirt, big smiles and everything. Then later he vanished, whisked away to London by his agent John Shittu. Mikel then claimed he never wanted to sign for United and instead wanted to play for Chelsea.

FIFA dismissed United’s official complaint of untoward behaviour (which, in hindsight, is quite telling) and the player signed for Chelsea. There he won an awful lot of trophies – though José Mourinho turned what was the next great African playmaker into a dull-as-dishwater defensive midfielder. Shame.

Quote: “A number of clubs wanted to sign Mikel and I showed all the faxes to him. He didn’t want to see them, because his mind was set on Manchester United. He was very happy when the deal was done and he wanted to go to United.”

Michael Ballack
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Year: 2006

Selling club: Bayern Munich

Hijacker: Chelsea

Fee: Free

Manchester United had been linked with Michael Ballack for years, and in 2006 with his contract running down it seems they were finally going to get their man and Ferguson would have his new midfield general. Chelsea came in wagging their finger like Dennis Nedry and one again gazumped the Red Devils to a player, this one an absolute titan.

Quote: “Manchester United] came before Chelsea, but I didn’t have discussions with Sir Alex Ferguson. At the time United were not really good in the Champions League – they had gone out in the first round that year. But Chelsea were growing really quickly. I wanted to be a part of this.”

Aaron Ramsey
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Year: 2008

Selling club: Cardiff

Hijacker: Arsenal

Fee: £4.8m

United had earmarked Aaron Ramsey as the possible future star of their midfield and had a bid accepted for him. However when he came to Carrington, Sir Alex was on holiday and club captain Gary Neville showed him around. Meanwhile Arsene Wenger took the time to greet him personally. Ramsey felt more catered to by Arsenal and signed there.

Quote: “[Arsene Wenger] did a lot to try and get me to this club. As a 17-year-old, flying out on a private jet to his hotel (in Switzerland for Euro 2008) was surreal but I think I made the right decision. I just felt a bit more wanted by Arsenal and by the boss.”

Eden Hazard
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Year: 2012

Selling club: Lille

Hijacker: Chelsea

Fee: £32m

As Manchester United’s ceaseless dominance was beginning to ebb away again, the transfer hijackings returned! The Red Devils wanted Eden Hazard to help keep the good times a-rollin’ but he opted to sign for the European Champions instead. Since then Hazard has United beat 2-1 on Premier League titles.

Quote: “There was a struggle between Chelsea and United, but according to me Chelsea has the best project. I was in advanced contact with both clubs and I spoke to both coaches.”

Lucas
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Year: 2012

Selling club: Sao Paulo

Hijacker: PSG

Fee: €45m

After missing out on Hazard, United went after Brazilian sensation Lucas. They were in pole position before haggling over the fee allowed PSG to sweep in ahead of them and secure their man. Sir Alex Ferguson played the frustrated man, bemoaning the rise of transfer fees, frustrated at missing out two wingers in one window.

Quote: “I was very close to joining Manchester United,” Moura says. “It nearly happened but, at the last minute, Leonardo called me and spoke to me and my parents.”

Thiago
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Year: 2013

Selling club: Barcelona

Hijacker: Bayern Munich

Fee: €25m

When Barcelona inexplicably decided they wanted to sell the future of their midfield, United were at the head of the queue. David Moyes had an open goal and still managed to whiff it wide and snap his cruciates in the process. While he was debating whether or not to sign the future best central midfielder in the world, Bayern Munich moved in, Pep Guardiola smiled at Thiago, and it was all over.

Quote: “Yes [he could have signed for United], but the real possibility was Bayern. [Because of Guardiola?] Yes, probably, but I can’t change the past and I prefer to focus on now. You learn something new every day with Pep, a magnificent coach who transmits real passion.”

Pedro
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Year: 2015

Selling club: Barcelona

Hijacker: Chelsea

Fee: £21.4m

Louis van Gaal needed goals and pace out wide, he needed a traditional Van Gaal style winger. Fortunately Barcelona were selling Pedro, who fit the mould exactly. United were moving for him, but moving too slowly. Chelsea sped ahead of them and got the deal done in a handful of days, leaving Van Gaal without a player who could have transformed his attack in 2015/16.

Quote: “I had offers from other English clubs – Manchester United, City and Chelsea, who were the club that more rapidly resolved my transfer and the one that showed more interest in me.”

Renato Sanches
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Year: 2016

Selling club: Benfica

Hijacker: Bayern Munich

Fee: €35m+€45m

Hailed the next great midfield general, Renato Sanches had an incredible season in 2015/16 that had all the major clubs scrambling for his services. United were in pole position but manager José Mourinho wasn’t appointed in time to push the deal through and Bayern dropped a mountain of cash in Benfica’s lap and secured the player (who went on to be Portugal’s most exciting player as they won Euro 2016).

Quote: “I arrived late. I signed in May, we started talking a week before, but completely out of the process. If I had arrived earlier, I’d fight for him.”
 
Half of those were bullet dodged & couldn't have improved us significantly.
Thiago & Hazard were huge misses; Robben & Ronaldinho arguably wouldn't have stayed very long in England.
 
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I think we chose to not sign Pedro and then Chelsea swooped in?
 
I think we chose to not sign Pedro and then Chelsea swooped in?

That was United's spin yeah, the same as we 'decided' not to sign Griezmann this summer.

Some of these are questionable though. A player deciding to go to a different club is not exactly hijacking.
 
Half of those were bullet dodged & couldn't have improved us significantly.
Thiago & Hazard were huge misses; Robben & Ronaldinho arguably wouldn't have stayed very long in England.
There's no "would" there; he did not stay very long in the end.
 
I think we chose to not sign Pedro and then Chelsea swooped in?

I maintain this is exactly what happened.

His Agent was pushing for his last big contract and whoring him out to the Premier League. He wasn't really a target for us, we were offered him and our name was used to boost interest and we were considering him but Chelsea took them up on the offer straight away and signed him. He was never any sort of target for us.
 
Wasn't there more to the Ronaldinho story than him just choosing Barca over us?
I'm sure i read Kenyon messed it up and tried to lowball PSG or something like that.
 
Were Hazard and Thiago hijacked? With Hazard, I thought we wouldn't stump up the extra ££ for the agent? And with Thiago, after scouting him for a few years, reportedly Moyes and Giggs didn't want him. It looked set to happen until Moyes took charge in July and poured cold water over it.

Then we spent the rest of the window chasing Fabregas, a similar but inferior player who would have cost more. That was a shitshow of a summer.
 
List also highlights how Moyes got the label as 'Dithering Dave', but we also took ages to finish many big deals under Fergie, leaving them at risk. Ronaldinho, Lucas Moura, Arjen Robben were all ours save for us trying to drag it on and and get the price down.
 
This just re-affirms my belief Chelsea are great with transfers, they seem to take half the time compared to most clubs to get a deal done. Gazumped us for Salah and William in a matter of hours whilst we spent months negotiating.
 
This just re-affirms my belief Chelsea are great with transfers, they seem to take half the time compared to most clubs to get a deal done. Gazumped us for Salah and William in a matter of hours whilst we spent months negotiating.

More money makes it easier I guess. That said, Bayern are not Oligarchs, but seem to just find out the asking price and either pay it or not.
 
Out of that list the ones that hurt are Ronaldinho, Hazard and Thiago :(
 
This just re-affirms my belief Chelsea are great with transfers, they seem to take half the time compared to most clubs to get a deal done. Gazumped us for Salah and William in a matter of hours whilst we spent months negotiating.
Wonder if it's more a case of just paying what the other club wants?
 
It's kinda ironic that they miss taking the one time we were truly robbed - and the one that hurt Ferguson the most.

Paul Gascoigne - Ferguson went on vacation thinking that everything was ready, and then Gazza changed his mind.
 
Wasn't there more to the Ronaldinho story than him just choosing Barca over us?
I'm sure i read Kenyon messed it up and tried to lowball PSG or something like that.

There were rumours of that yes - Kenyon made a bid that was lower than what had been promised. Not sure if that was true though
 
It's kinda ironic that they miss taking the one time we were truly robbed - and the one that hurt Ferguson the most.

Paul Gascoigne - Ferguson went on vacation thinking that everything was ready, and then Gazza changed his mind.


If you read the article, the OP talks about the Gazza transfer before the list starts. I didn't realise spurs bought his parents a house which swayed his decision!
 
Ronaldinho, Robben, Mikel and Ramsey are the only 'hijacking's' there

Ballack I remember Fergie saying at the time was too similar to Scholes and Rooney so we weren't interested
Hazard and Lucas we as a club refused to pay the money needed (be it the agents fees for the former or the transfer fee for the latter)
Thiago, Pedro and Sanches were all cases of the manager in charge not being 100% convinced about the player (rightly or wrongly)

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It's kinda ironic that they miss taking the one time we were truly robbed - and the one that hurt Ferguson the most.

Paul Gascoigne - Ferguson went on vacation thinking that everything was ready, and then Gazza changed his mind.

Also Shearer, was never as close as the Gazza one but he would have been an excellent signing.
 
Ronaldinho, Robben, Mikel and Ramsey are the only 'hijacking's' there

Ballack I remember Fergie saying at the time was too similar to Scholes and Rooney so we weren't interested
Hazard and Lucas we as a club refused to pay the money needed (be it the agents fees for the former or the transfer fee for the latter)
Thiago, Pedro and Sanches were all cases of the manager in charge not being 100% convinced about the player (rightly or wrongly)

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Lucas was definitely a hi-jacking. We hadn't 'cooled our interest', and we were seemingly thinking we could take as long as we wanted to get the price down. PSG came from nowhere and made it rain. Not much different to Ronaldinho and Robben.
 
I got over the Ronaldinho one the day I saw Cristiano rip Bolton a new one after coming off the bench on his debut.

The only time in my life where I phoned my friend at home in excitement at what I'd seen and explained what he'd just done, those stepovers at that point in the Prem we're mind blowing :lol:

Remember when fans used to sing 'you've bought the wrong Ronaldo'?


Robben hurts looking back, he would have been unstoppable under SAF back then.
 
Lucas was definitely a hi-jacking. We hadn't 'cooled our interest', and we were seemingly thinking we could take as long as we wanted to get the price down. PSG came from nowhere and made it rain. Not much different to Ronaldinho and Robben.

So we refused to pay the transfer fee then, no hijacking just one club that wasn't prepared to pay the money and another who was
 
I'll never forget the Hazard summer. The year after the Sneijder cocktease, everyone looking for a pick-me-up, watching his last game on a shitty iraqgoals stream looking for any sign at all of his intention. Then he tweets it a week later, fecker. Because we didn't want to pay the agent fees.
 
Barca never wanted to sell Thiago. He had a release clause that got activated when he didn't play enough games the season before.
 
So we refused to pay the transfer fee then, no hijacking just one club that wasn't prepared to pay the money and another who was


We were still in negotiations about the transfer fee. According to all reports, we are currently 'refusing to pay the transfer fee' for Morata and Perisič. Talks are still ongoing though and we are still trying to sign the players. That's different to Jose liking Van Dijk but not getting involved because he doesn't want to pay £60m for example.

If we step in and sign Salah now, I think it would be fair to call it a hijacking of Liverpool.
 
Chelsea do truly take the piss out of us when it comes to transfers.


A billionaire chairman and London life is big appeal isn't it. Chelsea are a good club, it's no surprise when they come knocking any player would be interested.

I'm not saying we don't offer good money and we're a bigger club than Chelsea but I do feel for a foreign player that London life is a huge part of the move.
 
I'll never forget the Hazard summer. The year after the Sneijder cocktease, everyone looking for a pick-me-up, watching his last game on a shitty iraqgoals stream looking for any sign at all of his intention. Then he tweets it a week later, fecker. Because we didn't want to pay the agent fees.

Think because the interest was so confirmed there. Footage of Fergie flying out to France to watch him was out there. Was a bit more than regular conjecture. His price was an absolute bargain when you think of it. Woodward would have gotten it done.