Liverpool are arguably the best team in Europe currently and do regular ticket allocations priced at £15-20 for fans with a local postcode to encourage local supporters to attend Anfield.
£90 for Arsenal away in the cup?
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Y'all in the UK are spoiled. In the US that's cheap for NBA/NFL or even entertainment like Broadway. I'd be lining up for United-Arsenal for £90 if it didn't require a 6 hour flight; that's a high level game.
I was thinking if any competitive team does, it's probably Liverpool.
We’re not spoiled to be charged £90 for a 90-minute sporting event, you’re being ripped off. That’s quite clearly the difference.
Just because people on the US overpay doesn't mean we have to do the same.
Reads like a pisstakes but you're deadly serious aren't you.
We don't move our sports teams around as a franchise over here mate.
Unrestrained capitalism ruins everything, eventually.
People will continue buying ridiculously priced tickets. Those people will not be the people who've formed the lifeblood of English football. They'll be highly wealthy people from all over the world.
Will this destroy the atmosphere that makes football special? Yes. Will this have a negative impact on Manchester United's finances? No, because there are more "plastic" fans willing to pay extortionate prices than there are "proper" fans who will actually contribute to atmosphere or the club more generally.
None of this should be taken as an attack on foreign supporters or anything similar. I'm Canadian, been to OT 3x at significant travel expense. I'm not the demographic that will be paying the extortionate prices, because I'm not wealthy enough that flying to Europe is something I can regularly do.
The community values of football are entirely at odds with its globalized economics. The money will end up beating the community, because that's how the prevailing economic system operates.
People will continue buying ridiculously priced tickets. Those people will not be the people who've formed the lifeblood of English football. They'll be highly wealthy people from all over the world.
Will this destroy the atmosphere that makes football special? Yes. Will this have a negative impact on Manchester United's finances? No, because there are more "plastic" fans willing to pay extortionate prices than there are "proper" fans who will actually contribute to atmosphere or the club more generally.
None of this should be taken as an attack on foreign supporters or anything similar. I'm Canadian, been to OT 3x at significant travel expense. I'm not the demographic that will be paying the extortionate prices, because I'm not wealthy enough that flying to Europe is something I can regularly do.
The community values of football are entirely at odds with its globalized economics. The money will end up beating the community, because that's how the prevailing economic system operates.
You've nailed pretty much everything in a few paragraphs there mate. Great post.
And why is it up to you who's being ripped off? I certainly don't feel that way. A dinner and a drink where I live is often $50 a person after tax/tip. Sports games are certainly worth much more than a dinner to me.
I went to United - Forest last year at OT and paid £100 - 110 IIRC. Seemed super, super reasonable to me. I'd have paid £200 if that was required to watch. We're selling out every game (as is Arsenal) so there's certainly no reason not to increase prices. It's a business and that's just basic supply and demand.
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Had a Quick Look in their website and tickets for corners and behind goal on lower tiers are £70. I think it will be much more around that price.
Arsenal away used to be £55-£65 before the cap, can’t see it being £90
Fairly sure there’s a rule you can’t charge away fans more than what you charge home fans
Arsenal away used to be £55-£65 before the cap, can’t see it being £90
Fairly sure there’s a rule you can’t charge away fans more than what you charge home fans
Absolutely true. I would go a step further and say that globalised economics are entirely at odds with community values full stop.
I've read some shit here my time, but this one is award winning stuff.
Arsenal want to make it Cat A with tickets at £65 and £90 apparently
But it's not actually decided yet, both MUST & AST are on the case so we shall see
You live in a different country thousands of miles away mate. Why does what you pay for dinner have anything to do with me being priced out of Old Trafford and away games?
I think some people are thinking short term about the ramifications of high ticket costs. The truth is despite us boasting about having millions of followers, a lot of our fanbase are/were gloryhunters who also support multiple teams. With us not having success and having a large portion of our fanbase only loyal to success, pricing out future fans is a bad way to go about things.
When I was growing up, United had a similar policy. Juniors were charges half-price for games, no matter who the opposition was. Primary schools were sent batches of tickets for reserve games and youth games. Maybe City did the same but I remember getting at least two or three free youth cup tickets from my school.
Which means nothing will change.
Yes but we are allowed to moan and be upset about it.
Fantastic
Because we support the same team, and the team/business is completely sold out at their venue at their current rates, so very reasonably is increasing prices. I don't see anything wrong with that. If you want to go to games you're "competing" with people like me who may only get a few chances to go to a United game in their life. So our value on the game can influence the price.
Perhaps. I went off the United marketplace because I didn't want to fool around with 3P sites and end up missing the game. Likely I could've found cheaper.
Anyway you're only furthering my point. If you've got people paying triple the sticker price you're probably charging too little as a business. We can and should increase prices, and it's probably coming for the Prem as a whole. £35 is almost laughably cheap to see a club like United. I paid that much to see a Liga MX game in Mexico City several years ago at Estadio Azteca, and not for a good seat. The demand is there to probably at least double current prices. If Ratcliffe has any business sense they'll go up considerably.
The way I view Man Utd Is very different mate, let's leave it there.
It's not out fault but we're the enablers for sure.
If we don't pay, the players don't get paid.
It doesn't even make that much sense economically.
What's an extra £30 on some away tickets going to get Arsenal....enough to pay Saka a week's wages?
It's nothing money to them and it more likely just disappears into someone's pocket as a self awarded bonus.
I agree with the principle point that if people keep buying them the clubs will keep putting the price up, but recognising the way soulless greedy football club owners work doesn't make it a justified way to behave.
In the long run it will kill football because it prices out families and every day people, and that is the large bulk of a fanbase and where a large bulk of footballers come from.
Yeah in isolation it looks really greedy and pathetic for this one game, but I'm thinking more long term as a good chance they will be increasing prices across the board in the future.
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Think it's more a case of Americans willingly paying mental prices when things should and could be cheaper.
Your points are valid but this - imho - is part of a wider societal and cultural issue. Who really benefits from all this "growth", and are there more losers net-net.
That's total nonsense, all money counts, it all adds up.
Say someone buys a ticket for an extra 30 quid, £30 x 20 games = an extra £600
If say 10,000 people paid that extra £600 then that is £6, 000, 000
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Putting the Tory in santoryo.
Fecking hell man. This is such a depressing view of the world.
Fans: Stop exploiting loyalty!
Owners: No. Make us.
Fans: .....
Owners: No. Make us.
Fans: .....
The warped and totally disconnected view shown by some in here is sadly so not surprising. Some simply don’t get it and never will.
Yeah it's a waste of time arguing stuff like the fella above yours
What a sad and stupid way to think
Sorry if math is against you, but we are not talking small amounts. If you can't be mature about it, don't join in the conversation.
Cool except you can't exploit home fans like that because a majority will be season ticket holders, and not many people will be buying season tickets for an extra £600 a year
ffp will actually work against fans going forward, with clubs looking to potentially raise prices in order to get more revenue in.
FA cup definitely has gate money split between the clubs and a quick google suggests league cup games do too.