Outrageous price.
Surely, our fans can organise some kind of official boycott here?
Surely, our fans can organise some kind of official boycott here?
£90 for Arsenal away in the cup?
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Players get paid insane wages, what do people expect? The prices are going to reflect the current financial situation in football. People have the choice to watch the games on TVs or go to stadium. It's not that hard. I have no sympathy for anyone complaining about ticket prices.
Is this post just intentionally tone deaf?
He has a valid point though, if fans are paying the prices, the clubs have no incentive to reduce them. Why would they? Most clubs are bleeding money every year.
Also, isn't this decision down to arsenal and not united?
There are incentives to reduce tickets, mainly culture, community, and family related.
And that’s the fans fault how? Not our fault players get paid ridiculous amounts of money. Normal working people shouldn’t have to splash out that much money that they’ve worked hard for.
Ffs. The pricing out of working class ‘ordinary’ people, the heart and soul of football, is gross.
It won’t stop though.
From a pure economic and material aspect it makes sense.
However, there is much more to life than that.
The way things are going Old Trafford on a match day will become another tourist attraction.
Warped, tone deaf nonsense.
Yeah, it's best to keep football for the elite in society, rather than a working class family wanting to support their football team but can't because they can't afford to spend £400 for parents to bring a couple of children to the game.
Let's get rid of working class scum from football
Well obviously some people will pay the price because some people have more money than sense! The real issue is this is just more evidence of the common man being priced out of the world’s most popular sport. We should all be moaning, and doing what we can to call out injustice when it’s clear. Frankly I don’t care if it’s Utd or Arsenal doing it, those prices are a disgrace.
Not the fans fault but that's the reality of the situation as harsh as it seems. Finances in football are what they are and it's not like clubs could just refuse to buy players and handicap themselves. Top players cost money, fans want to see their teams compete at the highest level and to do that, expensive players on huge wages have to be brought in hence why cost keep going up.
At the end of the day, fans have options, these aren't the 50s, you can choose to watch games via other mediums, if one can't afford nor are willing to pay the current price of tickets. There is no salary cap in football to control players wages therefore keeping things in balance.
No they won't and you know exactly the reasons why
But yes I agree it's ridiculous and I won't be paying it but many will sadly
Statements like "tone deaf" and the likes are such stupid internet buzzwords that some lots like you love throwing around just for the heck of it. It's actually quite comical. Either argue the point or don't but spare me the typical internet buzzwords nonsense.
A small price to pay if you want to watch players like Rashford on £300K a week and have options like Antony on £200K a week on the bench. At least the money goes to the players who put the effort in on the pitch.
This money will end up in arsenal's pocket.
Btw a large chunk of this seasons ticket prices will be going towards paying off the contract of the fans beloved former manager.
Nobody cares about your economic analysis or hard-headed posturing. This is about the alienation of the working class from a sport that has always been intrinsic to it.
For a bit more context to the discussion, here's an Athletic article titled "How important is matchday revenue to Premier League clubs?" published on September 30, 2024.
They reported matchday revenue as a percentage of total club revenue from all sources, for the year 2022/2023. Ignoring Ipswich, all other clubs had matchday revenue proportion of the whole range from 3.8% (Bournemouth) to 22.1% (Arsenal). The median value was 10.4% (Leicester City).
The data shows that not all clubs are maximising their revenues from matchdays, nor is it a London-based club phenomenon, with some London clubs with low %, and non-London clubs with high % (Brentford 6.8%, Fulham 8.3%; Man Utd 21%, Newcastle 15.1%).
For those who are saying "it's just a business-based decision" - yes, it's true: football is a business. It's easier to pay large wages when profit is pushed as the underlying principle that governs an organisation.
However, the truth that football clubs are businesses coexists alongside the truth that football clubs originated from and as communities with social ties, identity, and belonging. There is a kind of profit maximisation that bleeds into exploitation of those social bonds that people form with a club, which starts excluding people from the people and places they call "home".
They reported matchday revenue as a percentage of total club revenue from all sources, for the year 2022/2023. Ignoring Ipswich, all other clubs had matchday revenue proportion of the whole range from 3.8% (Bournemouth) to 22.1% (Arsenal). The median value was 10.4% (Leicester City).
The data shows that not all clubs are maximising their revenues from matchdays, nor is it a London-based club phenomenon, with some London clubs with low %, and non-London clubs with high % (Brentford 6.8%, Fulham 8.3%; Man Utd 21%, Newcastle 15.1%).
For those who are saying "it's just a business-based decision" - yes, it's true: football is a business. It's easier to pay large wages when profit is pushed as the underlying principle that governs an organisation.
However, the truth that football clubs are businesses coexists alongside the truth that football clubs originated from and as communities with social ties, identity, and belonging. There is a kind of profit maximisation that bleeds into exploitation of those social bonds that people form with a club, which starts excluding people from the people and places they call "home".
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Isn't it there already a thread on this issue?
Nope
Unlike League matches, ticket revenue is shared between clubs for cup matches
So I'm sure Brexit Jim was happy to support the price rise
They’ll still sell out, unfortunately.
It’s totally not the main point but the weird nonsensical idea that tone deaf is some stupid internet buzzword phrase has really tickled me.
Seems to be a big stadium / big club thing if there's any pattern there with Ipswich being an outlier.
In Ipswich's case I suppose they've come from nowhere. Will likely still be tied into some commercial deals signed when nobody could have envisioned being on the Premier League coupled with them not having much of an established reputation when it came to negotiating new ones this past summer. Wouldn't imagine they have outlandish ticket prices or anything like that.
The rest loosely in that kind of order. The small stadiums of Bournemouth and Brentfrod right near the bottom, TV money likely being big for them.
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Pretty much this.
I'm honestly surprised some people are naïve enough to believe ticket prices would never going to exponentially go up while at the same time clubs have to bring in players who cost a fortune in order to remain competitive.
Been a tourist attraction for at least a decade.
The stadium is shit but is always packed out, why else do you think no money has been invested into it? They literally don't/didn't need to despite the fact it's needed work for decades.
Overall it's shit but I don't know what anyone can do.
Out of date, but gives an idea.
There's the profit/loss thing on the business side. There's also the competetive element.
Arsenal knock a chunk off their tickets and bring in 60m instead from matchday revenue? £43m less to spend on a player transfer fees every year, or £825k a week off the wage bill.
If they do cool, but then to perform as well on the pitch is harder. If they slide on the field they get less commercial revenue as they're not as attractive, less boradcast revenue as they might not be on tv as much or even play as many games if they go out of the cups earlier as a result. Playing fewer games in turn impacts their matchday income again.
Matchday revenue is a small part of total revenue for most clubs so you'd hope they could reduce it but it can still have impact along those lines.
The sport/industry is so highly competetive, any little drop like that, or gain a club could make by increasing prices can have a sizeable impact.
I hate it, but I don't know what to do. A lot of clubs are going to charge what they can get away with while still selling out. Capitalism.
The only thing I can think of would be ticket price caps. Would probably have to introduce them Europe-wide. Would imagine England is the most expensive already, but maybe the 2 Spanish giants or PSG give us a run for our money? Not sure. Can't only apply a ticket price cap to 1 country ideally, the same way you can't with salary caps or that nation may end up being at a disadvantage in European competition.
Out of date, but gives an idea.
There's the profit/loss thing on the business side. There's also the competetive element.
Arsenal knock a chunk off their tickets and bring in 60m instead from matchday revenue? £43m less to spend on a player transfer fees every year, or £825k a week off the wage bill.
If they do cool, but then to perform as well on the pitch is harder. If they slide on the field they get less commercial revenue as they're not as attractive, less boradcast revenue as they might not be on tv as much or even play as many games if they go out of the cups earlier as a result. Playing fewer games in turn impacts their matchday income again.
Matchday revenue is a small part of total revenue for most clubs so you'd hope they could reduce it but it can still have impact along those lines.
The sport/industry is so highly competetive, any little drop like that, or gain a club could make by increasing prices can have a sizeable impact.
I hate it, but I don't know what to do. A lot of clubs are going to charge what they can get away with while still selling out. Capitalism.
The only thing I can think of would be ticket price caps. Would probably have to introduce them Europe-wide. Would imagine England is the most expensive already, but maybe the 2 Spanish giants or PSG give us a run for our money? Not sure. Can't only apply a ticket price cap to 1 country ideally, the same way you can't with salary caps or that nation may end up being at a disadvantage in European competition.
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Arsenal have always been a scandal ticket price wise.
For years a guy at work let me have his membership to get in for their United home game and it was always a stressy book, as the CHEAP end was about £65, all the way up to an insane £120 or so.
And the last time I went on it was about 3 or 4 years ago!
For years a guy at work let me have his membership to get in for their United home game and it was always a stressy book, as the CHEAP end was about £65, all the way up to an insane £120 or so.
And the last time I went on it was about 3 or 4 years ago!
Tone deaf is an internet buzzword apparently.
Why would the club care about those though, they want to make money.
Too right! On that subject, why shouldn't our water and energy suppliers just increase costs 500%?
We'll all have to pay, what incentive do they have not to?
Clubs that are bleeding money are doing so because of their own stupid decisions. Passing that cost on to their fans (to whom they owe literally everything) isn't really defensible
Well that depends on the owners. Many see football clubs as a money-making asset but plenty of others are involved in the community etc. - ours have, of course, never showed much regard for the latter priorities.
There should be regulation on that utility cost.
So if people feel really strongly about the ticket cost increase, other option is to talk / protest to your City's legislative rep to do something for a business under their jurisdiction.
Which of those are competitive teams though?
This is the worst post I’ve read in a long , long time.
And I thought 66 pound for remaining home games was ridiculous. Becoming a sport whereby only the prawn sandwich brigade will be attending.
The money goes to Arsenal
Load of nonsense. We have 58k season ticket holders. Do you go anymore?
Come stand in lower Stretford end and tell me it's full of tourists.
I don't agree the ground is shit either but can't be arsed arguing that.
To be expected on here and only took the first reply in this thread for that to happen.