Champions League Champions League Group F

Young Boys 2:1 Manchester United

Wankdorf Stadium

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Tue, 14 September 2021 @ 5:45pm BST
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    we will win our home games and one away and this will be enough. glad we lost here and not in the league.
     
    MrBest said:
    Lots of players with no experience. Pressure is not really a variable of measurement when you are a big club, from the start we were rubbish and Oles subs were awful.
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    We were not rubbish from the start at all, that's utter nonsense.

    We were completely in control until the red card, and Ole opted to sure things up and rightly valued experience over youth given the atmosphere and hostility.
     
    lex talionis said:
    We put on some poor performances in the CL under Ferguson, but we had momentum with us going into this match yet we were strangely dour.

    I’m tempted to blame Ole but this display really does come down to poor player performances.
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    He's too blame too. Its his job to make sure players play with the right intensity. And from the start of the game they didn't. And he made poor substitutions afterwards. It was bad game all around, coach included.
    It doesn't mean Ole out, just he got it wrong today.
    We should still easily win this group regardless of what happened today
     
    Teja said:
    Time to log off from here and not come back until the weekend. Let the Ole outers have their parade.
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    Agree, just cant except its 2 Errors cost us AWB , Jesse just thinks we keep the ball, roll it to keeper kick it out full time he just doesnt get it right. It happens we stuff them at OT on grass.
     
    This does worry me with Ole, I have to say. No composure. He is not good at game management. Could be fatal. Having said that, lets not panic yet. Its early days, there is a long way to go in getting the moving parts to gel. Let's not be too hard on AWB and Jesse.
     
    Ferguson’s Hairdryer said:
    You’re naive to think that fans reaction Greenwood missing and not playing for a draw is why Ole didn’t bring him on.
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    Greenwood isn't Elanga, which is who my original post was about. Greenwood is much more experienced so I think it would have been a good idea to bring him on.
     
    Lingaaard's on fiiire, our defence is terrifieeed, Lingaard's on fire. Nanananananaaanananaaananana.
     
    londonredmaniac said:
    Of course not.

    It's utter nonsense
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    Oh shut up. Would Pool, City or Chelsea perform like that with 10 men ? If a team is well coached like those teams, playing with 10 men wouldnt make that much of a difference against a team like Young Boys. Its a fecking team that would struggle in the championship. Im fed up of this mediocrity that has been surrounded around this club for almost a decade. WTF was Ole thinking with those subs ?
     
    Tom Cato said:
    Im willing to bet everyone are very, very happy we're never going back to an artificial grass pitch
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    This. I could see the point of "overreacting" to being down to ten. On a faster surface it will show a lot more.

    Would have made different subs, but not drastically different.

    Pogba is a forward, never seen any midfielder worth his salt give the ball away so easily over and over and over again.
     
    Flytan said:
    It's a split in the fan base. You have the realistic people who see Ole for what he is, a nice guy and a club legend but a terrible manager. He can build a squad but he can't coach to save his life and he apparently can't bring in intelligent assistant coaches to do his job. He should have never been given the job permanently. Then you have the other side who remembers him scoring the most important goal in club history and won't even pretend to judge him fairly.
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    Ive been guilty of slagging Ole off way harder than he deserves, he’s done well in fits and starts, but to just write the game off to some bad moments is too simplistic, because we’ve seen this happen on multiple occasions now.

    Once is an accident, twice (and above) is a pattern…

    If we collapse every time there’s pressure, something is not right with the coaching. Midfield is a weak point sure, but we should have enough to see out a game like this, even with 10 men
     
    Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and this coaching staff just cannot seem to figure things out when something drastically changes in a game, such as the red card incident we seen tonight. In fairness, they do a decent job at setting up the team prior to a game, but as soon as something goes array in which they haven't prepared for, they resort to this conservative and cowardly brand of football.

    Regardless of being one man down, it's unacceptable to not bring on a match winner such as Mason Greenwood while resorting solely to a defensive outlook which has the team hoofing the ball up field when in possession. It's not a great look for Manchester United, especially against a side such as Young Boys. Embarrassing. :mad:
     
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    JG3001 said:
    Ive been guilty of slagging Ole off way harder than he deserves, he’s done well in fits and starts, but to just write the game off to some bad moments is too simplistic, because we’ve seen this happen on multiple occasions now.

    Once is an accident, twice (and above) is a pattern…

    If we collapse every time there’s pressure, something is not right with the coaching. Midfield is a weak point sure, but we should have enough to see out a game like this, even with 10 men
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    Yeah and part of the reason our midfield is so weak is because he is afraid to sell off players that aren't important to the club. Martial, Lingard, Bailly, Lindelof. No reason we need all of these players. Should have forced a few out and gotten a midfielder. Instead he shows faith in players that have proven time and time again that they can't be counted on. He doesn't have what it takes to be a top manager. Quicker he's gone the better.
     
    Which is pretty much everyone. Ye all knobs then
     
    oreon said:
    He's too blame too. Its his job to make sure players play with the right intensity. And from the start of the game they didn't. And he made poor substitutions afterwards. It was bad game all around, coach included.
    It doesn't mean Ole out, just he got it wrong today.
    We should still easily win this group regardless of what happened today
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    It’s absolutely true that ultimate accountability falls on the manager. But surely it must also be true that Ole isn’t responsible for the red card and the horrifying back pass.

    But I do agree that fielding a weakened side backfired on us. It sent the message that we’d walk in our sleep against this opponent, which in fact is exactly what happened. But in the end Wan-Bissaka and Lingard gifted the result away.
     
    lilcurt said:
    I wouldn't say we had control of the game. Been battered second half.

    I don't feel Bissaka deserved a red but Jesse was a clown at the end. Just clear your lines with seconds to go!

    This however falls on Ole. Awful subs and game management. Tactics were nowhere to be seen, he looked like a fraud tonight.

    We have assembled a great team that should comfortably cope with 10 men Vs Young Boys... The coaching on the other hand is championship level and will be our undoing.
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    We had control of the game when it was 11 v 11. We were comfortably 1-0 up while creating chances with Ole's tactics for the first 30 mins. We went too defensive for my liking in the second half but even then we made a chance for Ronaldo for which the penalty wasn't given. Our midfielders constantly try flicks or keep the ball too long to get out of pressure instead of just buying a foul or passing it back quickly. We simply do not have a single capable CM in the entire squad. The players will have to take responsibility alongside the coaching staff.
     
    RonaldoVII said:
    It's so lazy comparing this to Instanbul last season. Defeats nothing like each other.
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    Comparable to last seasons CL as a whole

    1. Against PSG Fred should have been sent off and he was stupid enough to keep him on.

    2. Istanbul. Nothing needs to be said.

    3. 5 at the back against Red Bull to get a draw. Conceedng twice in first ten from the fullbacks being tucked in for no reason.

    Not subbing on Pogba til the 60th minute when we needed to win.

    When these things keep happening we can't just keep saying it's individual error
     
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    laughtersassassin said:
    Comparable to last seasons CL as a whole

    1. Fred should have been sent off and he was stupid enough to keep him on.

    2. Istanbul.

    3. 5 at the back against Red Bull to get a draw. Conceedng twice in first ten from the fullbacks being tucked in for no reason.

    Not subbing on Pogba til the 60th minute when we needed to win.

    When these things keep happening we can't just keep saying it's individual error
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    Fred was one of our best players in the 2nd half but ok.
     
    How was the result Oles fault?. Did he tell AWB to get a red card, did he tell Jesse to pass the ball backwards towards goal on 95 mins, after a resolute defending performance. A 1-1 was the best result after sending off. They had long shots and 2 very fortunate goals, and on another day stronger ref we get a pen as well. Just one if those days.
     
    Hughie77 said:
    How was the result Oles fault?. Did he tell AWB to get a red card, did he tell Jesse to pass the ball backwards towards goal on 95 mins, after a resolute defending performance. A 1-1 was the best result after sending off. They had long shots and 2 very fortunate goals, and on another day stronger ref we get a pen as well. Just one if those days.
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    Everything after the red is on him. He set up the team to just sit and hoof it back to YB. zero shot attempts after the red. ZERO ATTEMPTS. Not shots on goal, but attempts. A decent little chunk of this too is after they get the equalizer. Conceding the midfield and just bringing a back 5 doesnt make you stronger defensively. Very poor tactical knowledge from Ole being shown.
     
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265,4,3
  • Man Utd win
  • Young Boys win
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  • 29% Young Boys 0:3 Man Utd
  • 22% Young Boys 0:2 Man Utd
  • 13% Young Boys 1:3 Man Utd
  • 11% Young Boys 0:4 Man Utd
  • 9% Young Boys 1:2 Man Utd
  • 8% Young Boys 0:5 Man Utd
  • 3% Young Boys 1:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Young Boys 1:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Young Boys 0:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Young Boys 2:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Young Boys 1:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Young Boys 0:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Young Boys 3:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Young Boys 5:0 Man Utd
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Possession
54% 46%
Shots
19 2
Shots on Target
5 2
Corners
8 1
Fouls
14 3

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