Frank Grimes
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Steve Bull isn't it. fecking idiot
No, the actual commentator hates Utd.
Steve Bull isn't it. fecking idiot
Not necessarily, although it does happen a lot that people only mention the player they dislike. The difference with Pogba is that he's our best player, which is why fans expect a higher standard.Been no worse than anybody else. Everybody has had a stinker. Only good player was Romero.
But you take the player you dislike and make a silly comment.
I hear ya and I too am disappointed. This really was our only opportunity to win silverware and we are playing a lot of games and have just too many players returning. Martial and Lingard look so rusty they seem like average players. Herrera not his usual aggressive self. Matic still not at it. The ones who seemed disinterested were Pogba, maybe Rashford (then he scored), Shaw maybe (then grabbed an assist). Probably a game for Lukaku funny enoughI don't think so, no.
We had enough to beat wolves today, but the players look disinterested again, which is really frustrating.
To knock out Arsenal and Chelsea and then go out against an admittedly good wolves side stinks to me.
You are 100% correct mate.So, only one team in the country gets the chance to lift a major trophy every season? That sounds shite.
If we were winning this game, there'd be nobody saying 'scrap the FA Cup". It's just sour grapes.
They’ve got Liverpool last game of the season.OK Bye, bye cup NP, I hope Wolves win it now.
You are 100% correct mate.
Wolves were good. We look jaded. Ole bounce over. Now comes the hard part.
The disappointment was that we did not get the ball forward quickly enough, especially against a Wolves side who sit deep and want to counterattack. These short corners did not make sense and broke down, and that was an example of how we just did not adapt to their style at all.Lies. Haven't seen us play worse than we did against Pool in my lifetime. He rightfully got the sack after that.
I agree, but I took the assist comment as saying that he lost the ball yet again, which led to a goal for them. Not that he intentionally did it. If that's actually what happened. I missed that sequence.Not saying people should be holding back criticism, but if I were to moan about Pogba today I'd say he's playing shit and trying to do it all on his own like he tends to do when the rest of the team is playing shit. I wouldn't go with comments suggesting that he's intentionally assisting their goals, talking about his haircuts, earrings or whatever's the flavour of the day in terms of Pogba-bashing.
No, the actual commentator hates Utd.
Oh well, don't think it would happen, but if I were to choose a team to go all the way now, it would be Wolves.
He tried to win the ball in the penalty box while at the same time not giving Atkinson a reason to give a penalty, and the ball bounced off him for the striker to score from. Hardly an 'assist' which is why I called that fella out on it.I agree, but I took the assist comment as saying that he lost the ball yet again, which led to a goal for them. Not that he intentionally did it. If that's actually what happened. I missed that sequence.
Utterly gutted. Feeling real pain in my gut. It feels like we have been lulled into a false sense of competence. I hope not.
But Martial summed up the way we played... total lethargy. Total lacking in desire to effect the game positively.
It's quite disgraceful.
I would take losing, but this display showed zero heart, zero desire. Ole wants his teams to outwork the opposition. That didn't happen tonight.
Oh ok, I understand now.He tried to win the ball in the penalty box while at the same time not giving Atkinson a reason to give a penalty, and the ball bounced off him for the striker to score from. Hardly an 'assist' which is why I called that fella out on it.
Must be seeing different things than me. Not wanting to be over critical but he just looks like a fat Charlie Adams today..He actually played quite well until the feck-up at the second goal.
You didn’t answer my question though. Can you even put a finger on specifically what was wrong with the tactics?It was obvious from about ten minutes in that the starting tactics weren’t working.
I’d expect the manager of Manchester United to be tactically competent enough to counter anything the fecking Wolves manager can do.
The disappointment was that we did not get the ball forward quickly enough, especially against a Wolves side who sit deep and want to counterattack. These short corners did not make sense and broke down, and that was an example of how we just did not adapt to their style at all.
We ended up being sitting targets.
Yes I want them to beat Liverpool.They’ve got Liverpool last game of the season.
Still want them to win it?
I'm sure he can't but then again he isn't employed to manage Manchester United. I am an Ole advocate but there are times when we've looked a bit lost out there; even during our big wins.You didn’t answer my question though. Can you even put a finger on specifically what was wrong with the tactics?
You didn’t answer my question though. Can you even put a finger on specifically what was wrong with the tactics?
Yeah, but why blame it on the tactics when you can’t even tell what’s wrong with them. I don’t think the tactics were wrong as we seemed in control for the majority of the game. The problem today was that the players didn’t perform. Martial wasn’t instructed to refuse to take on their defenders and pass the ball back. Lingard wasn’t instructed to lose the ball and so on.I'm sure he can't but then again he isn't employed as the Manchester United manager. I am an Ole advocate but there are times when we've looked a bit lost out there; even during our big wins.
Well they won’t be doing that if they’re in the final of the FA Cup a week later.Yes I want them to beat Liverpool.
I don’t understand why you chose to blame the tactics and not the players when you can’t say what was wrong with the tactics. I wouldn’t put any blame at all on the tactics as we seemed to be in control of the game most of the time. I think the players just didn’t perform today, and that doesn’t necessarily come down to tactics. Martial wasn’t instructed to refuse to take on their defenders and Lingard wasn’t instructed to lose the ball etc.Well I’m not a football manager so, no I don’t know for sure what was wrong. But we looked shut against Arsenal playing a 433 and performed significantly better with a 352 formation. I’d have started with that today to provide much needed width.
I don’t understand why you chose to blame the tactics and not the players when you can’t say what was wrong with the tactics. I wouldn’t put any blame at all on the tactics as we seemed to be in control of the game most of the time. I think the players just didn’t perform today, and that doesn’t necessarily come down to tactics. Martial wasn’t instructed to refuse to take on their defenders and Lingard wasn’t instructed to lose the ball etc.
352 is a more narrow formation than 433 anyway as it only has two proper wide players whereas 433 has two wingers with two fullbacks who can provide width as well. And it’s too simplified to sit here and say that we should’ve played 352 because we performed better with that formation in a previous match. Every match is different, and to be honest I don’t think we’d perform very well regardless of formation as the players just seemed so off today.
I don’t understand why you chose to blame the tactics and not the players when you can’t say what was wrong with the tactics. I wouldn’t put any blame at all on the tactics as we seemed to be in control of the game most of the time. I think the players just didn’t perform today, and that doesn’t necessarily come down to tactics. Martial wasn’t instructed to refuse to take on their defenders and Lingard wasn’t instructed to lose the ball etc.
352 is a more narrow formation than 433 anyway as it only has two proper wide players whereas 433 has two wingers with two fullbacks who can provide width as well. And it’s too simplified to sit here and say that we should’ve played 352 because we performed better with that formation in a previous match. Every match is different, and to be honest I don’t think we’d perform very well regardless of formation as the players just seemed so off today.
Yeah, but why blame it on the tactics when you can’t even tell what’s wrong with them. I don’t think the tactics were wrong as we seemed in control for the majority of the game. The problem today was that the players didn’t perform. Martial wasn’t instructed to refuse to take on their defenders and pass the ball back. Lingard wasn’t instructed to lose the ball and so on.
It’s just funny how he blames the tactics without knowing what he’s talking about.
The right kind of mistake though
Tactical loss. Now we can focus efforts on CL
Martin Atkinson