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West Ham United 3:1 Manchester United

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Sat, 29 September 2018 @ 12:30pm BST
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    Not watching, came in here to see how we’re playing and I’m glad I’m not. Don’t think I’ll bother until there’s a change to be honest, it’s not worth the time or emotion at the moment.
     
    Think there was literally one through pass made by our players and it was from McTominay for that Lukaku's post. We're tragic.
     
    There's zero fight in the majority of our players. About three of them care.
     
    Ferguson and Charlton have zero power at the club so I have no idea why you'd have a go at them.
    they are directors. open their mouths and say something for the fecking huge salary they get. no director has no power
     
    for all the complaining Mou done about the defence, he invites pressure on them week in week out, attack is the best form of defence
    This! Why he's so averse to attacking is beyond my comprehension.
     
    So what actually is going on? Why has neither Moyes LVG or Mou implemented a system or a style?

    Why do we look and play like we have not a clue? Surely this is deeper than just the manager?

    It starts with our player recruitment , which has been abysmal in the last few years , other clubs have seen us coming a mile off and we are paying silly money and wages for dead average or over the hill players. It has been amateur hour at the club now for a few years.

    i really think any manager would struggle to compete at the top with this group of players , but the manager has to take some responsibility for signing these players.
     
    I just cannot believe what I”ve just seen...That was one of the most disgraceful 45 minutes of football that I”ve seen...We were shambolic,it was just unbelievable...

    Our approach right from the start was just mystifying...Why the hell were we dropping so deep?Are we up against Barcelona?Why is Mctominay playing when Baillys sitting on the bench?Its just utterly disgraceful.
     
    I've been pro mourinho up to this point, with the logic that it is important to be patient, give the manager time, and let them build over a number of years. But I think he's lost the dressing room and it's only going to go downhill from here. I say take a gamble and bring in Giggs or Zidane through the end of the season, and maybe the change in management can see us qualify for fourth place. There's no way we're finishing fourth with Mourinho in charge, and there would be a player exodus in the summer.
     
    You don't really teach players what to do in those areas. I'm pretty sure that even Pep said that they are free to use their creativity in the final third. If people think our attack will be completely transformed because someone teaches them how to attack, then they're in for a rude awakening when they see us under a new manager. That is assuming we're playing the same players.

    No pep is very specific about player runs and movements. He coaches players movement off the ball more than anything else.
     
    Not even half time and some of you going on like we've already lost.

    Have you seen any signs in this match or even this season that we have it in us to come back? I was confident we'd lose when the first goal went in, let alone going in at 2-0 down.

    I would love to be proved wrong, but the players and manager haven't given me any reason to think I will be.
     
    Leaving the house to go out for a meal in a minute. To think I was angry when the Mrs told me she’d booked it in this morning :lol::lol::lol:
     
    Jose absolutely stealing a living. If he’s got any decency he’ll walk at half time!
     
    Jose looks to have lost the squad this week. I think his antics are creating more divisiveness

    Against Spurs, it looked like the players were playing for the manager - but no longer.
     
    Not watching, came in here to see how we’re playing and I’m glad I’m not. Don’t think I’ll bother until there’s a change to be honest, it’s not worth the time or emotion at the moment.

    Unfortunately I think I'm addicted. I can't shut even this shit off... Only reason I'm going to skip the rest is my son has a soccer game.
     
    United need to do a Liverpool.Get a manager in,lay the foundations for next season and beyound. This is just bad.No direction and no enjoyment for the fans or the players it seems.
     
    I pretty much said as much to the missus lately, she said "well why are you watching them then?", I could really only reply "I suppose a bit of a mix of obligation and desperation" :lol:

    West Ham are feckING GARBAGE and we're -worse than them-. Our team is actually managing to play like relegation fodder somehow now. We look done.

    They have always been a sort of bogey team for us, but that is no excuse for how we're playing. Shambolic.

    I cannot wait for the season to end, and we're only 7 games in :(
     
    Feels like this is the game right here.

    If we can save this game we can turn the season round.

    If we can't then it's all downhill from here.
     
    Those tactics though. 5-3-2 with Lindelöf, Smalling an McTominay as CBs. Young as a right back. Is anyone really surprised?
     
    Strange lineup, negative approach, deflated players, I dont know what Mourinho could do more to get himself sacked.
     
    At this rate, the mathematical impossibility of reaching top 4 might come as early as December and we'll get rid of Mourinho by then...
     
    Fellaini,Matic and Pogba in a midfield 3 will never work. We are making West ham looking like a Barcelona team by falling back and watching them play with 3 slow cm players. Just get Mourinho out, this is going nowhere.
     
    I cannot believe that this game is making me feel sorry for Pogba. As a creative midfielder, you need movement ahead of you. So he trys to do to much, loses the ball and looks selfish/rubbish. Iniesta would struggle to create in this team.
     
    Jose out!
    Fellaini just feck off! New fecking contract we give this guy! Don’t tell me he’s played well lately! He’s our level now ffs!
    Mctominay is not good enough to play for this club!

    Why won’t he play our best defender? He’s sitting on the bench hasn’t played for weeks!

    He’s lost his magic. He’s lost the players. Please let José just get sacked ASAP!

    I don’t believe the ZZ reports but let Carrick have it til the end of the season.

    We are a joke
     
    The players are nervous, agitated, have no confidence in what they do and overall just miserable in their football. Usually that's down to the manager but not everyone seems to agree.

    Going into West Ham to play a defensive 532. I don’t know mate, he’s just playing not to lose. It’s sad to see.
     
    There's zero fight in the majority of our players. About three of them care.

    They all care. They look lost.

    The starting set-up was incredibly stupid against a shit time like West Ham. How many games have they won this season? Heck, how many this year for us to give them all the initiative?

    This was pathetic from the manager. And it's showing.
     
    We are losing to a side that lost their first four games of the season. Absolutely fecking sickening. There is no fight in this United team, they have downed tools and do not appear to be playing for the manager. We are a club in an absolute mess of the manager's own making.

    Why the feck was McTominay picked for this game? He isn't even good enough for the U-23's. What is Bailly doing on the bench? Why is Fred on the bench? Where is Sanchez? Where is Pereira?

    He has lost his marbles. This is reminiscent of the latter days of LvG.

    He has to go. Disgraceful. I have started to hate watching us recently.

    I see some fight in players like Shaw and Young, however it's jarring because there's a lack of it in others.

    Pogba, Lukaku, Martial have been rubbish out there. McTominay too although mostly because he's not needed and doesn't assert himself. We should sub him for a more creative player (e.g. Mata because we don't need to counter attack this team).
     
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Player Ratings

3.8 Total Average Rating

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Compiled from 332 ratings.

Score Predictions

262,169,80
  • Man Utd win
  • West Ham win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 18% West Ham 1:2 Man Utd
  • 13% West Ham 2:1 Man Utd
  • 12% West Ham 0:2 Man Utd
  • 10% West Ham 1:1 Man Utd
  • 7% West Ham 0:1 Man Utd
  • 6% West Ham 2:0 Man Utd
  • 5% West Ham 1:3 Man Utd
  • 4% West Ham 5:0 Man Utd
  • 4% West Ham 1:0 Man Utd
  • 4% West Ham 0:3 Man Utd
  • 3% West Ham 2:2 Man Utd
  • 2% West Ham 0:5 Man Utd
  • 2% West Ham 0:0 Man Utd
  • 2% West Ham 3:1 Man Utd
  • 2% West Ham 3:0 Man Utd
  • 1% West Ham 0:4 Man Utd
  • 1% West Ham 4:0 Man Utd
  • 1% West Ham 2:3 Man Utd
  • 1% West Ham 1:4 Man Utd
  • 1% West Ham 3:2 Man Utd
  • 0% West Ham 5:5 Man Utd
  • 0% West Ham 4:1 Man Utd
  • 0% West Ham 2:5 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. West Ham
  2. Man Utd
Possession
49% 51%
Shots
8 9
Shots on Target
3 4
Corners
4 9
Fouls
12 12

Referee

Michael Oliver