Watford 2:0 Manchester United

Foxbatt · Dec 22, 2019

The martial offsides are because our passing is one step slower. If Lingard passed it at the right time Martial won't be offside.
Take Lingard off and put someone who can play football and our attack will get better.

ManRed · Dec 22, 2019

Very good analysis by Owen on how Martial is not a proper no. 9. Surprised it's half season in and Ole has not worked with him or improved his movement.

mitchmouse · Dec 22, 2019

sky must be happy the are a subscrition service... if it was on a watch-pay basis they'd be in trouble. half the audience must have switched over by now

Stadjer · Dec 22, 2019

Ffs... Lingard not subbed

Botim · Dec 22, 2019

Annoying thing is the Watford players will come out believing they can get something here. We are such an underwhelming team when we 'dominate' games.

T00lsh3d · Dec 22, 2019

Inigo Montoya said:
There’s more movement in my bowels

Yeah that’s a problem with the early Sunday kick off

Walters_19_MuFc · Dec 22, 2019

Tonjo said:
January Players sale - Lingard, Martial, Mata, Young and Pogba if he wants to leave.

Great idea!

r0663664 · Dec 22, 2019

Lingard is not supposed to be XI for many many years. What is this affection of academy players when he is shit. Welbeck was sold for not scoring enough. Lingard should be sold. How many years that he is touted as another breakthrough players but just mediocre.

tenpoless · Dec 22, 2019

You can replace Lingard with Jimmy Bullard and it wouldn't make any difference.

Wait actually it would, We'll be playing better.

48 hours · Dec 22, 2019

No subs made, standard

Andycoleno9 · Dec 22, 2019

feck Haaland, give me two new midfielders whatever they cost. McT- Fred-Lingard midfield is midtable midfield at best

Godfather · Dec 22, 2019

Going with JLingz in the second half again I see

Bogga · Dec 22, 2019

Every manager has this player that no fan understands why he gets picked ahead of others... he keeps playing them week in and week out. Mourinho had Fellaini, LVG persisted with a Rooney in serious decline... but Fellaini and Rooney at least scored every now and then. But Lingard has done absolutely nothing to explain why he keeps getting chosen...

Inigo Montoya · Dec 22, 2019

Dec9003 said:
I thought Fred had a strong first half.

He was the midfield

Now if 2others step up, we have a midfield.
Simple really

Untd55 · Dec 22, 2019

This is what I don't understand about people seeming to find it difficult to understand why people don't want to keep Solskjaer.

If this continues, it could be 2 wins in 12 against teams outside the top six + Leicester this season. That is shocking and clearly shows that there is something wrong.

Zen86 · Dec 22, 2019

Majima said:
Are people happy with us game-raising vs the top teams, only to fall back into abject mediocrity the next? We are hilarious to watch in front of a low block. Is this what the future holds for us under Ole?

Give it a rest

Nick7 · Dec 22, 2019

I have no idea why I’m surprised and angry there’s no subs.

manunited1919 · Dec 22, 2019

If we come out the second half with the same plan and continue struggling against Watford, then it’s back to Sack Ole for me. We should be putting teams like these to the sword, but it seems they have the template to undo us, each and every time.

Inigo Montoya · Dec 22, 2019

Hawks2008 said:
Shaw is just a passenger

He needs the exit seat

Andycoleno9 · Dec 22, 2019

Lingard still there. Why not changing something after 45 minutes? Why Ole needs to wait 70 minutes every time?

Djemba-Djemba · Dec 22, 2019

tenpoless said:
You can replace Lingard with Jimmy Bullard and it wouldn't make any difference.

Wait actually it would, We'll be playing better.

If we'd played Rojo in attacking midfield for the last year instead of Lingard I think Rojo would have scored more and had more assists.

That's how bad Lingard has been in 2019.

Alabaster Codify7 · Dec 22, 2019

Majima said:
Are people happy with us game-raising vs the top teams, only to fall back into abject mediocrity the next? We are hilarious to watch in front of a low block. Is this what the future holds for us under Ole?

Apparently, Ole gets The United Way and knows what the fans expect from a United team.

If this is it, we are in turmoil. I don't remember the United Way being 'fecking shit midtable team'.

arthurka · Dec 22, 2019

red4ever 79 said:
Why has Pogba got a giant bald patch on his head?

He had a brain transplant, now wants to stay...

Pace Abuser · Dec 22, 2019

I can't believe Ole just sits there with a face like a school dinner lady. Get up. Talk to your players. Kick some dust up.

Would Klopp or Pep just sit there? There is no intensity from the team, that starts from the manager.

Majima · Dec 22, 2019

Zen86 said:
Give it a rest

How about answer the question? It's a very valid question to ask.

podurban2 · Dec 22, 2019

Majima said:
Are people happy with us game-raising vs the top teams, only to fall back into abject mediocrity the next? We are hilarious to watch in front of a low block. Is this what the future holds for us under Ole?

No one is happy with it, but it does give a hint that we may be going somewhere. It gives Ole at least the chance to prove himself with the team.

mitchmouse · Dec 22, 2019

now we can't even pass th ball 10 yards

Orestetes · Dec 22, 2019

ManRed said:
Very good analysis by Owen on how Martial is not a proper no. 9. Surprised it's half season in and Ole has not worked with him or improved his movement.

Our main issue is not having a proper no. 10 though.

r0663664 · Dec 22, 2019

Wow, Lingard is on. Joke!

Andycoleno9 · Dec 22, 2019

Inigo Montoya said:
He was the midfield

Now if 2others step up, we have a midfield.
Simple really

Agree.

Paul_Scholes18 · Dec 22, 2019

We need a better manager to lift the team and some attacking players.

mitchmouse · Dec 22, 2019

ManRed said:
The Player Performances Forum and its threads are closed while today's match is in progress. They will open again once the match is finished.

If you want to discuss what's going on in the match, please use the match discussion thread.

huh? I thought I was there

Drifter · Dec 22, 2019

No changes.

RedNed77 · Dec 22, 2019

I’m aware of the contradiction of moaning about the moaners.

But would it be feasible to set up another match thread that runs side-by-side with this utter shit show. I enjoy watching the game and having a talk with people on here about the football, but this place is just so fecking toxic and tbh depressing unless we’re smashing everyone and everything is awful.

I’m not saying all criticism needs to be silenced, as plainly not everything is perfect, but maybe we could have a thread where it doesn’t turn into some depressing circlejerk about how awful everything is all the time.

Some posters could be automatically excluded, not going to mention any names, and moving forward we could operate a 3 strikes and you’re out (permanently) rule system for excessive and repeated moaning.

Edit: This aged well, never mind, have at it lads

sideshow_bob · Dec 22, 2019

Fred McT & Lingard combo is such a shite midfield

Amadaeus · Dec 22, 2019

Josep Dowling said:
If Greenwood keeps having to come on to save our ass why isn’t he starting? James has done very little for months now.

Most likely because he still just 18. However, since Greenwood looks like an exceptional talent, then that should not be a factor. I believe Ole just thinks that James and lingard are above in the hierarchy of players who should starts.

Inigo Montoya · Dec 22, 2019

Now Maguire is passing the ball into nowhere

redom · Dec 22, 2019

Just take some care with your passing you fecks.

UncleBob · Dec 22, 2019

Andycoleno9 said:
Lingard still there. Why not changing something after 45 minutes? Why Ole needs to wait 70 minutes every time?

Jesus....Because Pogba clearly isn't ready to play that long.

King Andow · Dec 22, 2019

Such empathy for Lingard huh Ole, he has to take care of his brothers and all, poor guy. feck the team.

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