Fred has actually played the ball well so only God knows what this means. Even mctominay has slowly grown into the game. The problem has been our transition out the back with both Maguire and AWB so slow to make decisions on the ball. AWB the main culprit.
Champions League Group F
Villarreal 0:2 Manchester United
Estadio de la Cerámica
- Kick-off
- Tue, 23 November 2021 @ 5:45pm GMT
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no, still functioningOur defenders and midfielders can't pass in tight space or quickly. Martial and Ronaldo have made runs that should have been picked quickly and their teammates elected to pass it backward.Mctominay having another awful performance, it’s obvious he’s nowhere near good enough to be a starter but if he doesn’t sort himself out he’ll find himself in the deadwood category pretty quickly.
Yes, while Tony is this workhorse forward who just keeps on going like a duracell Bunny.
On and offOur build up is awful.
GK > CB > FB > WF > FB > CB > CM > Lose ball.
Rinse and repeat. Are they not coached to actually move about in possession? It's high level Sunday League at best.
And Poch, interestingly enough. He also defends 442 off the ball. I wonder...I've always wondered what a team playing at the high level would look like with 2 centre midfielders who do nothing but pass the ball sideways. I've got my answer.
He still gets picked week in week out
I agree mcfred aren't great (particularly mct) but think it's harsh to put so much of the blame from them. The coaching and tactics are crap. Fred is still having to cover huge expanses if midfield to make up for the lack of running from forward / wide players. The different shape with and without the ball feels overly complex for a team that's struggling so badly, especially because it's to accommodate martial.
No he doesn't. Or at least doesn't play like he does. It's quite literally his biggest fault. He - statistically - presses less than Martial. He also walks around out of possession.
I would bring him on though at some point. All of his good performances this season have been cameos against tired legs.Fairly uninspired stuff so far. Not that I expected many changes as it's the same coaching staff and not like Carrick had a lot of time on the training field to do anything anyway. I guess I was just hoping for a statement performance more than anything as a result of the new manager bounce. Ronaldo to pop at the end with a goal, 1-0 win.
Seems like it judging by that 1st half performance, particularly offensively wise. Hardly created any good chances to put them under any sort of threat.
That’s what he was going forUninspiring negative drivel.
We look like we believe we can't win and that is a confidence thing.
Too.many players not good enough.. AWB worst of the bunch
Mine has gone
Not really, both are lazy but Martial is actually working hard this game and a good outlet for the ball.
Agreed
Yes mine did. Had to go on my IPTV instead to watch BT, rather than the one I legitimately pay BT for. Shambles.We don’t look a fecking shambles defensively
Too young to remember butch Wilkins then.
Disagree. Rashford absolutely never tracks back, but in attacking mode he’s far more invested in making something happen than Martial.
No, I mean finding the EXACT spot to stand where he can't receive the ball. That's not hiding, that's a superpower. Should be a new skill on FIFA!You mean hiding?
Carrick was one of the main coaches. Do you guys really expect a different United?
Spot on...
He's been shite. Keeps playing passes that little bit away from where they should be and landing players in trouble or plain giving the ball away.
Plus he fecked that good counter by playing it sideways to Telles, and a bit behind him so he had to stop his run.
Carrick? I hear he's better than Fred.
He's like a human shadow.We need to quickly release the ball if we intend to transisition out of a defensive position. Mctominay off for Bruno. Misplaced quivk passes are better than misplaced slow sideways passes
Finally one good comment in relation too Martial. He has been decent this game with the little possession all around. So many fixed on saying he has been invisible when he has been very involved.
He also keeps the ball well under press which is crucial for any counter attacks we might start when opposition press to hard.
Maguire
Yes, but Tony scores way to little.
Out of the two, i'd give it to Marcus if we're to score in this game.Bruno for McTominay at half time, or very soon into the second half for me. Every time I've seen Bruno and DvB together central, they play some really nice 1-2 touch stuff.
Leaves us really light I know, but I'd rather have a midfield that can keep the ball and play passes, than have McTominay in there for some illusion of stability. It's just not true at all, he doesn't offer any defensive cover.
What I've seen in that first half is a Villareal team that are really neat and tidy, but lack cutting edge. If we leave the midfield as is, they'll eventually force a goal. If we show some courage, we can take the game to them and try and control it.
I understand the McFred, I really do. Carrick wants the solidity and discipline to not lose his opening game as coach. But playing McFred just invites pressure. Instead, we need a couple of players in midfield who can play those probing passes down the sides and feed Sancho and Martial, who have looked dangerous. The more we sit back, the more we'll drift from this game.While he'd never be given the chance I'd bet Amad does a better job than MartialAll Villarreal need to do to get the ball of us is press it with numbers when it goes to our FBs, who are left stranded and sorrounded by 2/3 players force them to make a mistake or pass backwards..
Also, no one is making runs behind Villarreals defence but our midfielders/defenders are also not looking to go long either..
Very timid performanceRandom memory, but anyone else remember fergie doing half time interviews in European games? Was it just fergie who did that? Why did we do that and why did it stop? Was it an ITV thing?
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Man of the Match
Runners-up
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36%
David de Gea
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11%
Fred
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8%
Cristiano Ronaldo
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4%
Victor Lindelof
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2%
Bruno Fernandes
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1%
Juan Mata
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1%
Donny van de Beek
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1%
Alex Telles
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 307 ratings.
Score Predictions
70,77,75
- Man Utd win
- Villarreal win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 20% Villarreal 1:1 Man Utd
- 16% Villarreal 1:2 Man Utd
- 12% Villarreal 2:0 Man Utd
- 9% Villarreal 2:1 Man Utd
- 8% Villarreal 2:2 Man Utd
- 6% Villarreal 0:0 Man Utd
- 5% Villarreal 0:2 Man Utd
- 5% Villarreal 3:1 Man Utd
- 4% Villarreal 3:0 Man Utd
- 3% Villarreal 1:3 Man Utd
- 3% Villarreal 1:0 Man Utd
- 2% Villarreal 0:1 Man Utd
- 2% Villarreal 2:3 Man Utd
- 1% Villarreal 4:1 Man Utd
- 1% Villarreal 5:0 Man Utd
- 1% Villarreal 0:3 Man Utd
- 0% Villarreal 4:0 Man Utd
- 0% Villarreal 2:4 Man Utd
- 0% Villarreal 1:4 Man Utd
- 0% Villarreal 1:5 Man Utd
- 0% Villarreal 0:5 Man Utd
- 0% Villarreal 3:2 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Villarreal
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 51% 49%
- Shots
- 13 11
- Shots on Target
- 3 6
- Corners
- 8 6
- Fouls
- 9 5
Referee
Dr. Felix Brych
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Nemanja Matic
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replaced by Marcus Rashford
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