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Tottenham Hotspur 0:3 Manchester United

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    Have put last week behind me and realise it’s always a new match. Very exited to watch how the players respond against Tottenham. A very good performance tomorrow may be a new start for Ole and the players. They likely needed a shocker in order to implement a long waited drastic change.

    Ole have to emphasise better balance between “express your self” and “discipline”. He also have to find a new midfield formula. He has no other choice than to try something new and experiment a bit. That also include some sort of gambling.

    I too think that we will do well against Tottenham. But I am not really interested in just one good bounce back. We have to start performing at a much higher intensity and do that consistently week in week out.
     
    We need to beat these. Ole or no Ole, I think top 4 is going to start looking tricky if we lose here and against City.

    Leicester, Arsenal, and Spurs have all been inconsistent but so have we. It’s not obvious that we’ll beat them to top 4, or beat West Ham to it for that matter.
     
    What Ole should do to give himself the best chance:
    De Gea
    Lindelof Varane Maguire
    Wan Bissaka Fred Matic Shaw
    Bruno
    Rashford Ronaldo
    Grind out a 1-0 essentially.
     
    I want us to win, because I don't want to write the season off like our board are clearly prepared to do. Finishing outside the top 4 after the investment we made in the summer will set the club back years, yet again.

    An unspectacular 2-1 win will do to keep the pressure on Ole but keep our top 4 hopes alive too.
     
    What Ole should do to give himself the best chance:
    De Gea
    Lindelof Varane Maguire
    Wan Bissaka Fred Matic Shaw
    Bruno
    Rashford Ronaldo
    Grind out a 1-0 essentially.
    Maguire and Shaw should be nowhere near that team. Actions must have consequences, and if both can perform so poorly without getting dropped, then something is seriously wrong.
     
    What Ole should do to give himself the best chance:
    De Gea
    Lindelof Varane Maguire
    Wan Bissaka Fred Matic Shaw
    Bruno
    Rashford Ronaldo
    Grind out a 1-0 essentially.
    It is probably the only way we can keep a clean sheet. If only we had signed Trippier...
     
    He can't play Pogba so I wonder how he will set up the team? DVB or Matic and McFred?
     
    ughh my greatest fear is we play like shit but somehow eke out a crap win and it just delays the inevitable. It should be clear Ole and this staff cant lead us to titles or even to get this team playing properly.
     
    In all reality, is Ole still in charge vs Atalanta if we lose this game?
     
    ---------------------de Gea
    AWB---Lindelof---Maguire---Shaw
    ----------Matic---------Fred
    Sancho-----Bruno------Rashford
    ----------------Ronaldo
     
    In all reality, is Ole still in charge vs Atalanta if we lose this game?
    He will be. He’ll get the next 3 games and will probably only go if he loses all 3, which is when someone will probably murder him.
     
    De Gea

    Awb
    Lindelof
    Maguire
    Shaw
    Telles

    Matic
    Vdb
    Fernandes

    Rashford
    Greenwood
     
    It would be a show of titanium balls for Ole to drop Maguire, with the explanation no one could deny that he doesn't look anywhere close to being fit. Ole is not going to go with a back 3. Our fullbacks have terrible but you can't drop that many defenders all at once. Assume Varane is fit but I don't think we have a report on that yet.

    De Gea
    AWB Varane Lindelof Shaw
    Matic Fred
    Sancho Bruno Rashford
    Ronaldo

    I'm not a fan of Fred but we're short on options as McTominay (might still be unfit) has been horrific, Ole doesn't rate Donny (Ole never wanted him) and Pogba is out (moronic of Ole of sub him into a lost cause). Greenwood has a fantastic shot in his boots but has played himself out of the role IMO with laziness in defending and selfishness in attack. Bruno and Rashford have to start, as does Ronaldo.
     
    In all reality, is Ole still in charge vs Atalanta if we lose this game?

    100%, no way we’re going out there without a manager, it’s a massive game for us this season.
     
    In all reality, is Ole still in charge vs Atalanta if we lose this game?

    Yes. It seems clear now that he's been given these last three matches before Conte comes in during the international break. Too much chaos would ensue is Conte is announced now while Ole sees out these last three matches. But why not drop Conte in now? If you're in his shoes would you want to be given just a few days to retrain the squad to play proper football...with three very tricky matches coming up in a short period of time. The international break is coming up and even though we'll lose some of our players to that Conte will have time to begin undoing the damage that has been done before facing Watford, an ideal opponent. Then Villareal and Chelsea.

    But if Ole is here to stay through the end of the season...:lol:
     
    I expect the same formation and tactics and largely the same team being picked. They'll run harder than normal and may grab a result - a draw or a narrow win.
     
    Ole relents and finally plays VdB in a meaningful game. VdB knowing that his downing of tools would be the proverbial knife in Caesar's back.

    Ole - "et tu, Donny?"

    :lol:
    Haha although Caesar was surprised by Brutus turning on him, Ole probably is already scared to be alone with VdB given how he’s treated him.
     
    Feeling quite optimistic. Reckon we will see a reaction

    2-1 Utd

    Varane to return and Sancho to start
     
    Think we’ll want to bounce back right way after such a defeat, expecting a real performance from the team. Spurs are trash as well currently.

    Spurs 3-1.
     
    At this point need to have a set of clean sheets. That means we need to sacrifice one of the attacking players and be a lot better at pressing, tackling and generally not being able to played through at whim.

    Bruno will get us goals but, think it's his role that needs to be sacrificed to make us a lot more solid in the middle. Play with Matic/Fred/VDB with instruction for VDB/Fred to cover first. Let the fullbacks support the front 3 at best.

    Front 3 whomever it is need to be told to run their socks off because we have another 5/6 attackers on the bench that can take their place in this game and the next ones if they don't.

    Maguire also needs dropping if Varane is fit and play Lindelof along side. I never would have said that till this season. Maguire has been just that shaky all season, not that Lindelof has been immense but, a lot more stable than Maguire.
     
    I have a feeling we’ll smash spurs, also Ole is under a lot of pressure, and he always seems to survive the pressure, if he lose to Spurs, then surely he’s gone.. with that being said, I think the board has already decided to sack him, but who knows if he gets results from the next 3 matches.. Spurs are shite currently, and our players will be looking to bounce back from the humiliation. 4-1 United.
     
    Tabloid headlines after another dull display and spuds winning "Lads, it's only Man Utd."

    Wishfull thinking is hoping that Ole grows a pair and rotates underperforming players to the bench in attempt to salvage antthing from the match.
     
    He'll play the same useless team, we'll stink the place up but scrape a draw. Ole will smile.
     
    First time it wont be 'Lads, its Tottenham'. It will be the other dressing room saying 'Lads, its Man Utd'.
     
    In all reality, is Ole still in charge vs Atalanta if we lose this game?

    depends on the result. If Spurs destroy this team I don't know how you have any hope in the next 2 fixtures. at least if they sack Ole off another terrible performance you might get a bounce from the players, a bounce from McKenna/Carrick taking over and trying something different. who knows. I know theres almost no time to implement new approaches but maybe you are able to salvage something out of the midweek European game with a change, then get stomped by City and get the new manager in during the break
     
    Any chance both sets of fans will sing “Ole’s at the wheel” together? Delusion and derision, united.
     
    Don't think OLE always bounces back when it's all ball's to the walls situation will come true this time.

    I will probably still tune in ...don't think I will be watching the full game. Just dreading it.
     
    I will literally go for a long walk if the team doesn't feature wholesale changes tomorrow.
    Can't sit through another episode of aimless oleball.

    Hoping against hope that he trys something else.
     
    De Gea

    Awb
    Lindelof
    Maguire
    Shaw
    Telles

    Matic
    Vdb
    Fernandes

    Rashford
    Greenwood

    Not your best 11 players but maybe your best football team?

    My thoughts are: VDB will take a few games to settle in, maybe play him from 60 minutes (subject to performance) for a couple of games. Maybe Cavani over Greenwood?
    Certainly Ronaldo as the super sub to play against tired legs for the last 20/ 25 minutes.

    I don’t think the line up will be much like the above but I hope you get the win regardless, you deserve the rub of the green.
     
    I don't think that Ole will make any significant changes tomorrow. Why? Because Ole has proven that there are a staple set of players in which he entrusts explicitly for games which he deems as crucial. So, it stands to reason that in perhaps the most crucial game of his tenure (deciding his future.....for now.) he will revert to those same players.
     
    Hope Utd get a result today. They are the laughing stock of English Football (maybe World Football) and only wins will ease the pressure. They should go for a clean sheet .
     
    De Gea
    AWB Varane Lindelof Shaw
    Matic Fred
    Sancho Bruno Rashford
    Ronaldo
    This is the team I'd go with, however I think we have room for another change in defence. Lindelof and Shaw both deserve dropping, but I'd be wary about making too many changes. Honestly wouldn't mind seeing Varane-Bailly given a run out.
     
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Score Predictions

110,165,74
  • Man Utd win
  • Tottenham win
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Detailed Results

  • 11% Tottenham 1:1 Man Utd
  • 11% Tottenham 2:0 Man Utd
  • 10% Tottenham 1:2 Man Utd
  • 10% Tottenham 3:1 Man Utd
  • 10% Tottenham 2:1 Man Utd
  • 7% Tottenham 2:2 Man Utd
  • 7% Tottenham 5:0 Man Utd
  • 6% Tottenham 1:3 Man Utd
  • 4% Tottenham 3:0 Man Utd
  • 4% Tottenham 0:2 Man Utd
  • 4% Tottenham 0:0 Man Utd
  • 3% Tottenham 2:3 Man Utd
  • 3% Tottenham 0:3 Man Utd
  • 2% Tottenham 1:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Tottenham 0:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 0:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 3:2 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 4:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 1:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 0:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 4:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Tottenham 3:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Tottenham 2:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Tottenham 4:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Tottenham 5:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Tottenham 10:0 Man Utd
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  1. Tottenham
  2. Man Utd
Possession
58% 42%
Shots
9 10
Shots on Target
0 4
Corners
10 2
Fouls
12 14

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Stuart Attwell