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    Withnail said:
    Aside from the fact that one doesn't necessarily impact the other, you'd rather children went hungry so you could have a shiny toy?

    That's a bit of a pathetic statement.
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    Hey, that is why you elect people with the right heart to be your representatives and to change things from Westminster.

    Rashford's primary job is to be a footballer. If he can't or if he doesn't want to do that, he can feck right off the football club and do his stuff elsewhere. I don't give a flying feck about him anymore.
     
    Rednotdead said:
    Has there really been an improvement since Rangnick came along?
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    No but he's hardly had time to find out where he hangs his hat and coat. He can't be expected to miraculously turn this squad into a team in the space of a month or so. They've had three years of Ole winging it and now there's a coach who has a system and plan to use it. Trouble is, the players know he's off in a few months and someone else will arrive.
     
    Moriarty said:
    No but he's hardly had time to find out where he hangs his hat and coat. He can't be expected to miraculously turn this squad into a team in the space of a month or so. They've had three years of Ole winging it and now there's a coach who has a system and plan to use it. Trouble is, the players know he's off in a few months and someone else will arrive.
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    Thing is some of these players that otherwise wouldn't or shouldn't be off will find themselves gone. Think RR will already be putting together that list of recommendations.
     
    Moriarty said:
    No but he's hardly had time to find out where he hangs his hat and coat. He can't be expected to miraculously turn this squad into a team in the space of a month or so. They've had three years of Ole winging it and now there's a coach who has a system and plan to use it. Trouble is, the players know he's off in a few months and someone else will arrive.
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    Conte was the man if we wanted a quick turn around but amongst other reasons, many didn’t want him because “he might hinder the progress of Sancho”, well feck me.
     
    RedDevilQuebecois said:
    I would happily throw his charity work into the biggest dumpster in the UK and set it on fire if that can give me a proper talented footballer. Charity without a credible figurehead is shit all day.
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    You are a strange, and looks like quite horrible person.

    Wolves were always going to be tough but.. not sure how you guys turn it around.
     
    Annoyed I wasted my time, what a shite performance, how can professional players not be able to pass, it’s infuriating
     
    RedDevilQuebecois said:
    Hey, that is why you elect people with the right heart to be your representatives and change things from Westminster.

    Rashford's primary job is to be a footballer. If he can't or if he doesn't want to do that, he can feck right off the football club and do his stuff elsewhere. I don't give a flying feck about him anymore.
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    I don't live in the UK so can't vote anyone in.

    None of that post is relevant to what you previously said. His charity work made sure children were fed. You said you'd rather that didn't happen if it meant he would play well.
     
    Nish115 said:
    You are a strange, and looks like quite horrible person.
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    I don't care what you think. The only thing people want is a player, like every single regular worker out there, to be fully committed and competent in a primary job. If that is too much to ask, no one is stopping him from changing careers.
     
    bdspeedy said:
    If Ralf is actually managing, it's bullshit. Who is Mctominay blowing to keep his place? How do 3 senior citizens stay on while the young fresh legs get subbed?
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    I think Ralf is like the fake mandarin in Iron Man 3. I don’t think he has much of a say, having Fletcher next to him says it all, just a bunch of mates running the club. Not saying I think he’d make a huge difference anyway as I doubt even Pep or Klopp could get a tune out of the mediocre level of talent at the club.

    The summer will be so interesting.So many players will be fecking off by choice and hopefully also because they are not good enough. Huge reset needed but with the owners and board I honestly can’t see anything ever changing.
     
    Redfrog said:
    To be honest most people here were asking for it !
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    I refuse to believe that. If ronaldo is ever going to play you need the whole team working for him. Cavani next to him makes no sense because he can’t provide opportunities for him to score his tap ins. Ronaldo is the problem structurally.
     
    Withnail said:
    I don't live in the UK so can't vote anyone in.

    None of that post is relevant to what you previously said. His charity work made sure children were fed. You said you'd rather that didn't happen if it meant he would play well.
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    Do you think any employer would be happy with an employee not doing a good enough job while that employee is doing great in an unrelated field of work? No, that employer would want a fully committed employee first and foremost. Manchester United only cares about having fully committed and competent footballers.

    If Rashford prefers to work this hard to feed kids at the expense of his own playing career, he can retire and run for office. That is a politician's job, not a footballer's.
     
    RedDevilQuebecois said:
    Do you think any employer would be happy with an employee not doing a good enough job while that employee is doing great in an unrelated field of work? No, that employer would want a fully committed employee first and foremost. Manchester United only cares about having fully committed and competent footballers.

    If Rashford prefers to work this hard to feed kids at the expense of his own playing career, he can retire and run for office. That is a politician's job, not a footballer's.
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    How do you even know 1 is impacting the other?

    He probably has a whole team helping with his charity work with him just overseeing.

    He was always inconsistent apart from that 1 good season.
     
    UnitedSofa said:
    Yes, he did. Basically calling him inept.
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    I’m confused as to what other term would be sufficient to use for someone who sees a problem and doesn’t do anything to change it despite it being completely in his hands to change it.
    As he then went ahead and changed it, it points to the fact he isn’t an idiot.
    Of course if we play Villa next Monday and we’re doing it again, then it’s a fair discussion to be had again.
     
    RedDevilQuebecois said:
    Do you think any employer would be happy with an employee not doing a good enough job while that employee is doing great in an unrelated field of work? No, that employer would want a fully committed employee first and foremost. Manchester United only cares about having fully committed and competent footballers.

    If Rashford prefers to work this hard to feed kids at the expense of his own playing career, he can retire and run for office. That is a politician's job, not a footballer's.
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    What I do in my free time has nothing to do with my employer.

    This attempt to link his poor form, when there are more pertinent factors, to his Charity work is a bit lazy

    And your first statement was pathetic if my interpretation, which you haven't dispelled, was correct.
     
    James35 said:
    We have played the bottom three and two mid table teams and have taken 10 points. Top 4 is a dream, we are shite. Roll on the summer and yet another reset.
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    Yes post Fergie we have only really had two decent seasons, the first Mourinho one and last season under Ole, in all honesty the covid away game scenario and the injuries/faults at the other big clubs in the league had as much to do that with anything.

    I think Mourinho actually made decent signings in his first window (not proved long term but in that first year they worked) and he got rid of a couple of expensive dud in Depay and Schneiderlin.

    But for me every window even includign that one we have been a signing or two short numbers wise (not even taking in to account the quality of signings) and we have also been way short in terms of moving out players, that may be due to wages or lack of interest.

    But that has been as bigger problem as any for me. This side has been nothing more than top four contenders for the majority of the time post Fergie, like I sad last year wasnt accurate on the quality of teams around us. And seveal players who have had the wrong attitude, been too consistently injured, never been good enough etc etc have been here in some cases for several years now even right back to Ferguson and Moyes times.

    I really hope this current time IS already part of the resest. We have got a part time manager who seems good at indentifying young players and working with the structure of a club. We are looking for a new manager and we have a fair few players that thankfully want to leave, some with contracts running out so there should be a good 6/7 players movign on this summer. Even then I think we need to move more moving players on, as ridiculous as it may sound and like football manager, it really should move easily in to double figures in my opinion....theres actually 16 Id like to see move on.

    Until someone can actually see there are so many players that shouldnt be at this club and have the balls to move majority of them on and until we sign the right players and for the right positions, its not going to happen. Our failure to sign TWO let alone one central midfielder this summer gone and not move on a few still here already was criminal in my opinion. Found it laughable at the time all the positive talk of us challening after the last window. We made signings mainly in reas we had similar players that were not a huge step up in quality, only Varane was....yet there are a good 25+ players ij our ow league let alone Europe better than our midfield options
     
    Nish115 said:
    How do you even know 1 is impacting the other?

    He probably has a whole team helping with his charity work with him just overseeing.

    He was always inconsistent apart from that 1 good season.
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    I suppose it's the same intuition many supporters have that
    Ole had no system but Rannick does. We just don't know.
     
    Florida Man said:
    Clearly not, especially in a pressing system. And what midfield pairing can we do confidently? The other option is to include Pogba who isn’t known for being consistent either. Past that, take a risk with youth players.
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    From what I've been reading for the last number of years many posters think that a midfield of one should be enough.
     
    darko said:
    I suppose it's the same intuition many supporters have that
    Ole had no system but Rannick does. We just don't know.
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    im gonna get roasted here but why did you think RR was gonna be a success? What was it that made him the prime candidate? Personally, I have no idea why your board thought he was gonna be the guy. There is little to suggest he was gonna work.
     
    jesperjaap said:
    Yes post Fergie we have only really had two decent seasons, the first Mourinho one and last season under Ole, in all honesty the covid away game scenario and the injuries/faults at the other big clubs in the league had as much to do that with anything.

    I think Mourinho actually made decent signings in his first window (not proved long term but in that first year they worked) and he got rid of a couple of expensive dud in Depay and Schneiderlin.

    But for me every window even includign that one we have been a signing or two short numbers wise (not even taking in to account the quality of signings) and we have also been way short in terms of moving out players, that may be due to wages or lack of interest.

    But that has been as bigger problem as any for me. This side has been nothing more than top four contenders for the majority of the time post Fergie, like I sad last year wasnt accurate on the quality of teams around us. And seveal players who have had the wrong attitude, been too consistently injured, never been good enough etc etc have been here in some cases for several years now even right back to Ferguson and Moyes times.

    I really hope this current time IS already part of the resest. We have got a part time manager who seems good at indentifying young players and working with the structure of a club. We are looking for a new manager and we have a fair few players that thankfully want to leave, some with contracts running out so there should be a good 6/7 players movign on this summer. Even then I think we need to move more moving players on, as ridiculous as it may sound and like football manager, it really should move easily in to double figures in my opinion....theres actually 16 Id like to see move on.

    Until someone can actually see there are so many players that shouldnt be at this club and have the balls to move majority of them on and until we sign the right players and for the right positions, its not going to happen. Our failure to sign TWO let alone one central midfielder this summer gone and not move on a few still here already was criminal in my opinion. Found it laughable at the time all the positive talk of us challening after the last window. We made signings mainly in reas we had similar players that were not a huge step up in quality, only Varane was....yet there are a good 25+ players ij our ow league let alone Europe better than our midfield options
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    Good post, agree with everything you’ve said. Unfortunately until the tits running the club change I think it will get even worse before it gets better. We are a giant football club who has completely lost the plot and is run by bankers, accountants and some ex players. It’s been said so many times and even by ex managers, we are a business and a very good one but we are becoming completely irrelevant on the pitch. It’s sad to see and this is not a knee jerk reaction, we are way past that even being suggested.

    I would not be surprised in the slightest if we go out of the FA cup next game.
     
    LilyWhiteSpur said:
    im gonna get roasted here but why did you think RR was gonna be a success? What was it that made him the prime candidate? Personally, I have no idea why your board thought he was gonna be the guy. There is little to suggest he was gonna work.
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    I don't think anyone sane ever thought that Rangnick would be a success in the meaning that he would remain the manager beyond the original length of that part in his contract (6 months). However, people were right to expect players to start doing whatever it takes to save their jobs by adopting fundamentals that most successful teams are using right now. If those players don't want to put the work, then they better not complain when they will play in other clubs that don't offer top wages nor aspirations.
     
    Moriarty said:
    No but he's hardly had time to find out where he hangs his hat and coat. He can't be expected to miraculously turn this squad into a team in the space of a month or so. They've had three years of Ole winging it and now there's a coach who has a system and plan to use it. Trouble is, the players know he's off in a few months and someone else will arrive.
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    Ole's interim period was more optimistic, with arguably a weaker side. Your POV is flawed.
     
    Moriarty said:
    No but he's hardly had time to find out where he hangs his hat and coat. He can't be expected to miraculously turn this squad into a team in the space of a month or so. They've had three years of Ole winging it and now there's a coach who has a system and plan to use it. Trouble is, the players know he's off in a few months and someone else will arrive.
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    completely agree with you
     
    LilyWhiteSpur said:
    im gonna get roasted here but why did you think RR was gonna be a success? What was it that made him the prime candidate? Personally, I have no idea why your board thought he was gonna be the guy. There is little to suggest he was gonna work.
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    We need(ed) a competent, tactically-minded manager with a system and good players who could be coached into playing that system. We don't have the players. We now have the manager. Like Ole before him said, a lot of these players won't be part of whatever success is achieved. I don't think RR in his brief tenure will spin straw into gold, but I do think he will pull out plenty of weeds and get the soil ready to yield (to strain a metaphor).
     
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