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Manchester United 1:2 Sheffield United
Old Trafford
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- Wed, 27 January 2021 @ 8:15pm GMT
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Creation comes from when the ball is in the final third. There were plenty of occasions the ball was put in to the final third and the quality from our attacking players was poor.
Yep and then there is the matter of WHU who will love to knock us out of the cup. Can't we just ask to play every game away from home.
We didn't though.Rio ripping us to shreds on btIf Bruno has a seriously off game the whole team is bad.
100% he takes the blame for the defeat in my eyes. Goals change games and he was to blame for them both
Creation comes from both.
The entire first half was basically the ball being passed left to right as we slowly edged forward. I feel like Matic dropping in was absolutely a part of the reason that was the case.
That's an incredibly simplistic way of looking at it. How you get the ball there is just as important. Spent an extra 10 passes and 15 seconds getting there, and it's guaranteed that your attacking players will find it harder to do something with it.
Watch that first half again and tell me we didn’t have issues getting the ball into the final third. It was all left and right around the centre circle.
I think we agree anyway, forwards were awful! I’m too emotional too have this debit now buddy. Goodnight!
I stand by that statement mate.
Well, the first line anyway, the second not so much.
Keepers should be the bravest on the pitch. He's the first one I've known to be so soft.
Bin the lot and start again! Didn't think we'd lose to an injury ravaged team who have struggled all season.Ole saying the right thing that we defended poorly twice for the goals and we didn't create enough to really trouble them.
Why leave it so late with the subs to change the attacking threat then?
His in game management is a real concern once again.
A simplistic way of looking at it because football's a simple game, unless you want to overcomplicate things.
Regardless of how quickly we got the ball to our attacking players/full backs, when they get the ball, they simply had to do more with it. It was shit!
Watch that first half again and tell me we didn’t have issues getting the ball into the final third. It was all left and right around the centre circle.
I think we agree anyway, forwards were awful! I’m too emotional too have this debit now buddy. Goodnight!
I don't need to watch the first half again. I think you need to watch it. Sutton was constantly saying how poor we were in the final third and that it didn't click because it didn't. Our full-backs and attacking players didn't want to know.
Who cares what Sutton says I don’t need to watch our players pass the ball left and right right and left, left and right, I vividly remember. Anyway I think you’re both right anyway, poor forwards, poor tactics.
Anyway, let’s leave it there.Who cares what Sutton says I don’t need to watch our players pass the ball left and right right and left, left and right, I vividly remember. Anyway I think you’re both right anyway, poor forwards, poor tactics.
Anyway, let’s leave it there.
I thought I'd point out someone else who didn't watch the first half. Oh wait....
You keep saying let's leave it there, which I find quite patronizing, if I'm honest. If you want a debate, then let's do so. Otherwise, don't reply. That simple!
Mate I literally agree with you. Goodnight.I thought I'd point out someone else who didn't watch the first half. Oh wait....
You keep saying let's leave it there, which I find quite patronizing, if I'm honest. If you want a debate, then let's do so. Otherwise, don't reply. That simple!
It's a great sound bite, but its nonsense. It's why clubs spend huge sums of money to bring in the best managers. How you set up up and how to stretch defenses, unsurprisingly, has a lot to do with how many chances you create.
Yes, I can confirm it was a joke. I am 37 years old and don't take football that seriously. If you think this is bad you should see some of the Call Of Duty stuff I post on Facebook. I am sarcastic. Apologies. I did genuinely check where the ref is from, but only because I work with a guy who is a Assistant referee in the Championship, it did make me chuckle when I saw he was from Merseyside. Sorry, I do sometimes forget how serious people take comments on here. I should have done white text or something...
Great stuff
But we've seen how Liverpool (think we agree has one of the best managers) in recent weeks have struggled because their front three and full backs haven't been firing.
It happens sometimes. I just think our attackers are very inconsistent, which doesn't come as a massive surprise, given how young some of them are.
No we probably won't challenge properly this year but did you really expect us to?
Not at the beginning of the season but this is not a normal season. all the contenders are flawed, even city.
He’s been poor all month. He didn’t even play most of the Liverpool game and although he scored a free kick winner we were good without him. That’s not the reason why but it certainly does contribute.
Rashford was awful today. Really really bad.
Yeah I hear ya. I just feel City will have more than us unless they get a lot of injuries and we don't. I think we'll be ok though. We should be motivated for the Arsenal game and I don't really see us going on a bad run.
Sheffield had very little ambition and granted we defended poorly, they had a bit of luck on both goals.
Yep still think we should have signed reguillon despite the buy back clause. A lot of people on here seem to think telles is fine because shaw is playing well but telles looks garbage to me
All fair points although i am not feeling confident about the arsenal game
The most frustrating thing is i think we would have won if we had made subs earlier. Fro example i think mata could have made a bug difference
Yes, much better offensively. Telles is a waste of space, can't attack or defend. It is nice to be good at dead balls and have a pretty haircut but don't see the point of him. He seems to be always late in transition, in attack and defense. The guy just can't run, so can't overlap. He will be much better suited in Italy. He was cheap but still a waste of space and money. We quadrupled his salary apparently and I am sure he is happy to sit on the bench. So he is exactly the kind of player we want to get ride of !
Its a one off crap performace - we have done well against all the other low block teams this season
VAR also shafted us today - we shouldnt forget that
Of course that plays a part. It does happen sometimes. But when that sometimes is every time you play a specific way, then you need to consider it's more than just a bad day at the office.
But that happens regardless of whether Matic plays or not, so I'm not sure I get your point now. That said, we more or less played the same team/tactics against them in the reverse fixture and despite a nervy ending, had quite a comfortable game.
Must we be better at breaking down low blocks? Yes, but let's not go on like these kinds of teams are easy to beat. City and Liverpool, who I think we agree are the best at opening up low blocks, narrowly beat Sheffield.
I just think against teams like these, you need someone to be able to come up with some magic in the final third and they weren't able to do that today.
I disagree. There's a pretty vivid distinction between how we play with Matic, and how we play with Fred/McTominay. I thought about making a thread about it a few times before someone else made it. Fred/McTominay will occasionally drop to a similar position to pick up the ball of we are being pressed, but it's never a default position for either of them.
It's hard to break down low blocks, true. For me, it's fairly obvious that adding an additional player to the back line will make it harder to do that, not easier. I understand the reasoning behind it. it gets your fullbacks higher, but ours already play incredibly high. Just look what Shaw was doing against Liverpool. So all we end up doing is dropping one of our two midfielders deeper, and then as soon as the ball is pushed wide, their spare man in the middle cuts off the only ball inside to Pogba, and we either have to rely on individual brilliance to escape or the ball is played back again. Sure, Bruno could drop deeper, but what does that achieve? We're back to having 2 in midfield, but we have one less player ahead of play that can cause damage.
If the opposition press it's a different situation entirely. We have the additional man at the back to help bypass the initial press, then Bruno drops a little deeper to occupy the space vacated by the pressing midfielder, and has time and space to do what he does best. Against SU, they weren't pressing, and so weren't vacating that space, so all we were doing was giving them a numerical advantage in the areas where we could threaten them.How does anyone even justify this ? There's absolutely no valid excuse. We lost to the shittest team according to the numbers. We fecked up. There's no other explanation.Pathetic dogshite result losing to a side with 5 points up until now? fecking unacceptable.Thought Shaw should have been brought on earlier to stretch their defence. Don't see much point in Telles playing if Cavani is sat on the bench, none of the starting front three were ever getting on the end of his crosses, rarely made any decent crosses from open play anyway. Bruno looks spent and Rash is not far behind either. Martial is not the same player, time to move him on, promote Greenwood to one of two CFs, he's not a RW and let Cavani go after this season.
Don't be naive enough to think this is a one off performance after how we have been getting away with results despite poor showings
Please don't make this defeat about VAR we had more than enough time to turn it around and makes us look like bitter scousers
VAR fecked us up yea but we got it back to 1-1 anyway
Let’s not pretend that we’ve not seen us struggle against teams that park the bus. We have no movement, no passing and no cutting attack to affect these types of teams.- Status
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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15%
Paul Pogba
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10%
Edinson Cavani
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7%
Aaron Wan-Bissaka
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6%
Bruno Fernandes
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5%
Luke Shaw
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4%
Nemanja Matic
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4%
Mason Greenwood
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2%
Donny van de Beek
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2%
Alex Telles
Player Ratings
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Compiled from 368 ratings.
Score Predictions
233,3,6
- Man Utd win
- Sheffield Utd win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 32% Man Utd 3:0 Sheffield Utd
- 23% Man Utd 2:0 Sheffield Utd
- 13% Man Utd 4:0 Sheffield Utd
- 11% Man Utd 3:1 Sheffield Utd
- 4% Man Utd 5:0 Sheffield Utd
- 4% Man Utd 2:1 Sheffield Utd
- 4% Man Utd 1:0 Sheffield Utd
- 3% Man Utd 4:1 Sheffield Utd
- 2% Man Utd 1:1 Sheffield Utd
- 2% Man Utd 5:1 Sheffield Utd
- 1% Man Utd 0:5 Sheffield Utd
- 1% Man Utd 2:2 Sheffield Utd
- 0% Man Utd 0:2 Sheffield Utd
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Sheffield Utd
- Possession
- 76% 24%
- Shots
- 16 5
- Shots on Target
- 4 3
- Corners
- 7 2
- Fouls
- 10 12
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Luke Shaw
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replaced by Donny van de Beek
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replaced by Edinson Cavani
