Champions League Group A

Manchester United 2:1 CSKA Moscow

Old Trafford

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Tue, 5 December 2017 @ 7:45pm GMT
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    I dont get how anyone can think its even a possibility we wont win the group.
    We need to loose 0-4. At home. To CSKA.

    We will win the group and after that i am not to worried about who we draw.
    Really? Bayern, Juve and Real are in the cards.
     
    The cool thing about Champion's League is playing really big teams like Real, Bayerns and Juve. Bring em on
     
    Cheers for the info. I would start Rashford up front then for Zlatan. Could put Blind in for Rojo, but mustn't weaken the side too much. If Rojo will be needed Sunday, then a rest would be a good move. My back three for the derby if all available would be Bailly, Jones, Lindelof, but it might be a stretch, given injuries.

    I think Jose will use a back 4 in this match. Rest Rojo and Young.

    I don't want to derail this thread into the City thread but I'd rather see Lindelof - Smalling - Rojo against City. Bailly and Jones won't be ready after so long out. Would be suicide to put them back in against City.

    Rojo needs a rest? This is what, his third or fourth game coming back.

    and... he's come back from a serious injury. We can't chuck if into every match and expect him to perform 100%. He looked a bit off last week.
     
    The cool thing about Champion's League is playing really big teams like Real, Bayerns and Juve. Bring em on
    I'll take Roma, Porto or similar. Why exit at 1/16 stage? Let's go deeper.
     
    Hope to see shaw play tonight. Rest Young, Valencia and Matic I'd say.
     
    Really excited for this game actually, after the Arse game, and before the bitters this just seems like a nice amount of tension and status.

    CL game, decent, historical European team as opponents, enough on the line to make it worthy, but not so much that it can't be enjoyed by the team/fans.

    Hope OT is rocking and it feels like a proper CL game atmosphere.
     
    So what is the deal? Are we through unless we lose by a certain amount?
     
    -------------Romero
    Darmian--Smalling--Blind--Shaw
    ----Herrera--Pogba--Mata
    Mkhitaryan--Lukaku--Rashford

    Avoid a 7-0 defeat.

    Pogba will start as he'd banned domestically.
     
    So what is the deal? Are we through unless we lose by a certain amount?

    We have to lose by 5 goals to Moscow and Basel needs to win for us not to qualify for the next round. A draw secures us winning the group, we can even lose (with less than 5 goals) as long as basel doesn't overtake us in GD and still win the group.
     
    Im confused. if Basel win by 3 and we lose 1-0 that makes it a 3 way tie where Basel will have the same goal difference as we do but have more goals scored.
    Surely we finish 2nd in that scenario?
    I have no idea how this works
     
    Im confused. if Basel win by 3 and we lose 1-0 that makes it a 3 way tie where Basel will have the same goal difference as we do but have more goals scored.
    Surely we finish 2nd in that scenario?
    I have no idea how this works

    Points
    Goal difference
    Goals scored
    Away goals scored
     
    The cool thing about Champion's League is playing really big teams like Real, Bayerns and Juve. Bring em on
    Correct sir.

    I'd like to get through to quarters then face the big boys but if we face them earlier - so what?
     
    @Denis79
    So a 3-0 Basel win and a 1-0 loss leaves us second since we'd be even in the first two and behind on the third?
    Im wondering why everyone says we need to lose 5-0 not to top it?
     
    @Denis79
    So a 3-0 Basel win and a 1-0 loss leaves us second since we'd be even in the first two and behind on the third?
    Im wondering why everyone says we need to lose 5-0 not to top it?

    If we lose 5-0 we're out of the CL. Assuming Basel beat benfica. If we lose by 5 goals and Basel win, we, basel and Moscow all end the group with 12 points, us with the worst GD.
     
    Points
    Goal difference
    Goals scored
    Away goals scored
    Head to head as well.

    "The permutations are pretty complicated, so we’ll defer to UEFA.com’s explanation: "United would qualify in first place with a point (and can afford to lose by six goals and still go through). If they lose to CSKA and Basel do not win, United and CSKA will go through with first place determined by head-to-head results between the two; United won 4-1 in Russia and would have the superior overall goal difference if they lose 4-1. If CSKA and Basel win, the top two will be decided in a three-way head to head; United would be through in this situation unless they lost by seven goals, and would be top unless they lost by five goals."
     
    Are you all mad? If we lose 5-0???? If we lose 3-0???? Who are we? Some club no one have ever heard before? Wtf people? And we are playing against mix of the best players from Barca, Real, Juve... So, my God, we will lose 5-0!? And drop to EL! Moyes is in London... Those days are gone.. We smash CSKA, while not breaking a sweat. And then we focus on derby.
     
    The cool thing about Champion's League is playing really big teams like Real, Bayerns and Juve. Bring em on
    Good post. Someone give likes to this guy. Feck hes posted a lot and is here for years!
     
    Leaked team on MEN:

    Romero, Darmian, Smalling, Lindelof, Blind, Shaw, Herrera, Fellaini, Rashford, Lukaku, Mata

    Doubt that'll be the actual lineup but having Fellaini back would be a boost and Shaw might do okay with a back three behind him.
     
    Ibras probably unavailable,so I guess Rashford could get a chance to lead the line tonight....I think Lukaku needs to be kept fresh for the derby...
     
    Leaked team on MEN:

    Romero, Darmian, Smalling, Lindelof, Blind, Shaw, Herrera, Fellaini, Rashford, Lukaku, Mata

    Doubt that'll be the actual lineup but having Fellaini back would be a boost and Shaw might do okay with a back three behind him.
    I doubt Shaw will be starting, Pogba should start as he is unavailable for the Derby. Rest is plausible.
     
    Leaked team on MEN:

    Romero, Darmian, Smalling, Lindelof, Blind, Shaw, Herrera, Fellaini, Rashford, Lukaku, Mata

    Doubt that'll be the actual lineup but having Fellaini back would be a boost and Shaw might do okay with a back three behind him.
    Rubbish. Jose said Paul will play cause of the ban. Felli? Is he even in the squad? Jose probably chasing the mole.
     
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Player Ratings

6.6 Total Average Rating

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Compiled from 386 ratings.

Score Predictions

485,12,30
  • Man Utd win
  • Moscow win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 39% Man Utd 2:0 Moscow
  • 21% Man Utd 3:0 Moscow
  • 9% Man Utd 1:0 Moscow
  • 8% Man Utd 4:0 Moscow
  • 7% Man Utd 2:1 Moscow
  • 6% Man Utd 3:1 Moscow
  • 3% Man Utd 1:1 Moscow
  • 2% Man Utd 0:0 Moscow
  • 2% Man Utd 5:0 Moscow
  • 1% Man Utd 4:1 Moscow
  • 1% Man Utd 0:5 Moscow
  • 1% Man Utd 2:2 Moscow
  • 1% Man Utd 0:1 Moscow
  • 0% Man Utd 5:2 Moscow
  • 0% Man Utd 1:3 Moscow
  • 0% Man Utd 0:2 Moscow
  • 0% Man Utd 3:2 Moscow
  • 0% Man Utd 1:4 Moscow
  • 0% Man Utd 0:3 Moscow
  • 0% Man Utd 0:4 Moscow
Compiled from 527 predictions.
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Moscow
Possession
57% 43%
Shots
15 9
Shots on Target
7 3
Corners
9 3
Fouls
11 11

Referee

Gianluca Rocchi