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Manchester United 2:1 Brentford

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Sat, 7 October 2023 @ 3:00pm BST
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    laughtersassassin said:
    True that. I'll be honest I'm fairly indifferent because a new manager won't sort our problems.

    But there is no argument that ETH deserves to keep his job with results like this
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    If we were to assess this fairly, then everyone deserves sacking from the manager to the ones above him. Especially the ones above him since they’ve overseen other fiascos under Ole, Ragnick etc… But we all know that’s not going to happen.
     
    I really don't care if ETH get sacked . I really don't care if we sell Bruno and Rashford maybe get 50m for both of them . I really don't care anymore. These player would throw anyone under the bus so any change aint making a difference long term.
     
    Not sure if Maguire has actually done well or if the rest of the team have just been awful.
     
    RedChisel said:
    No attachment to this team anymore. I actually hope they get relegated as it's what the Glazers and most of these players deserve.
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    Agree, only way to get Glazer to get lost. Relegated and start selling all the stars and we can start with Rashford, Bruno, Casemiro, Mount, Onana (is he a start?), Antony, Varane, Maguire, Lindeloft, Dalot, Shaw...... everyone should go. ETH can start building a young team with Mainoo, Hannibal, Garnacho, Hoijund, Amad, Pellestri and etc.
     
    We have no plan for build up. None at all. Our only tactic is to press high and force a mistake. That doesn't work when you have the slowest CB pairing in the league alongside an aging DM. Rare moments of combination passing leads to a cross into a crowded area which Brentford will defend all day long. So the attack is non existent.

    And then comes the defense. Conceding from our own freekick. Ridiculous levels of idiocy shown by the players. Was it Maguire who took the freekick to a surrounded Casemiro? Then Casemiro fecks up. At least we've got enough bodies back to block the cross. But then Lindelof fecks up. And to finish the job Onana fecks up. These are supposed to be professional footballers. A new low everyday with the errors.

    I have no idea what we could change and frankly am losing my desire to watch the team. Feels like another Palace game incoming. Hopefully the team proves me wrong, but I have zero belief.
     
    For whatever reason, I thought nah we’ll not lose again today. :lol:

    Still the second half to go though.
     
    Wing Attack Plan R said:
    Well! What can you do when your Champions League winning mid passes it straight to the other team, creates a 4 v 3, then your new keeper can’t save Jack shit.
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    He could take out that player who has been a completely liability since the season’s start. Casemiro has been shit all season and yet constantly starts. And ETH has the audacity to speak about standards
     
    I wonder if Erik will be taking his family skiing during the international break
     
    We consistently seem to be battling against lack of physical attributes. Every team we come up against is stronger, faster, braver and better in the air.

    Casemiro, slow. Bruno, slow and weak. Rashford, weak. Lindelof, slow, Evans, slow, Maguire, slow....
     
    Sandikan said:
    That goal was a joke.
    Casemiro gives it away yes, but no imminent danger as the ball falls beautifully for Lindelof. Who couldn't have made a worse pass to let them in.

    But Onana. A shot on target really is a shot scored isn't it.
    Genuine shock how that went in.
    Imagine a keeper who isn't a good shot stopper. That's 6 or 7 shockers so far this season.
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    Agree with all of this. The goals we let in are consistently comical. Its hard to believe we're watching top flight football. When Lindelof poked the ball back into the danger area I actually laughed. That was literally the last thing I was expecting. Then Onana. My days...
     
    Youtube TV even taking the piss by giving me zen breaks at HT. Thanks, I needed that.
     
    Strelok said:
    Another shitshow. I have no idea what's wrong anymore.
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    Either do I. Im truly lost for an explanation as to how this cycle of shite happens year after year ever since SAF retired. It’s the exact same pattern as before time and time again. A new manager comes in, everyone gets a lift, the team does well for a period of time and then it all goes to shite and the manager gets sacked. It’s relentlessly repetitive.

    Now, I completely understand that the biggest of our problems is the Glazers, the club is rotten from top to bottom, they have sucked the life out of the club and we won’t properly recover until they go, however at the end of the day we still get to put 11 men, all international footballers, on the pitch every single match.

    Why is everything we try to do with these players a struggle, why is it every time we get a corner we already know it’s going to be cleared comfortably. Why is it that every time we have a free kick in a dangerous area we know it’s going to come to nothing yet why do we fear a goal will go in when our opponents have the same opportunities.

    These aren’t the same players Moyes had, they aren’t the same players Van Gaal had, they aren’t the same players Mourinho had and they aren’t (all) the same player Solsjkar had but we are witnessing the same depressing cycle of shite year after year after year. Its like there’s a curse on us or there’s something in the water at Old Trafford that is resulting in this never ending loop of misery. It’s gotten to the point where I never expect us to get back to the top again. No matter who we sign, no matter who the manager is, no matter what. We are stuck in this continuous nightmare for ever.
     
    RedChisel said:
    ETH only has himself to blame when he gets sacked. Signing his own death warrant picking the same old shit match after match. No sympathy for him.
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    Yep.

    The definition of insanity is ..
     
    cj_sparky said:
    Grim, really grim.

    I wish I didn't watch the firs two episodes of David Beckham's documentary. That team would fight for one another and back each other up, this team has little fight and would throw each other under the bus without hesitation.
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    Yep, nobody is picking anyone else up off the ground. They only hit a burst of inspiration midweek because OT was absolutely bouncing, not from anything they did between themselves. Then they shat it.
    Drifter said:
    So what is ETH’S plan here today
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    To sit in his seat alongside his failed clone of an assistant whilst they shrug shoulders at one another like a couple of techs watching the lab go on fire.

    Playing in neat and tidy boxes isn't going to motivate anyone. He probably doesn't even see the point.
     
    christinaa said:
    So some intellegent people here kept saying we need to get rid of De Gea without knowing who we were getting! Brilliant stupidity!
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    That goodbye De Gea thread was an absolute disgrace. So many clowns going in on a player who's been shown to be much better with a supposed CL level keeper looking like a buffoon
     
    Mount has been absolutely pointless. It's McT level of hiding from him.

    Never seen a player looking so busy trying to avoid being free for a pass.
     
    Rashford, Bruno, Casemiro off. Hannibal, Garnacho, Antony on. If we lose, we lose but i'd rather go down swinging.
     
    The decision to go all in on Onana will live on in United infamy for years to come.

    De Gea made mistakes last season, but he was never this bad.
     
    If Ten Hag does go is there any chance he will go back to Ajax and buy a load of our players? He loves signing ex players after all.
     
    Dannn411 said:
    Two wrongs don't make a right. De Gea was poor for five years while being paid nearly £400k a week. There is a reason David De Gea STILL has no club as we speak. David De Gea in this side would make next to no difference.
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    He won the golden glove last year.
     
    kouroux said:
    Do we really not have a single U21 LB ?
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    We sent both Williams and Fernandez out on loan. And nope, none of our the ones currently here in u-21s are nowhere near good enough. I mean they got spanked by Bolton 8-0.
     
    Ralph1386 said:
    If we were to assess this fairly, then everyone deserves sacking from the manager to the ones above him. Especially the ones above him since they’ve overseen other fiascos under Ole, Ragnick etc… But we all know that’s not going to happen.
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    That goes without saying but it's not how football works. Especially at this club.
     
    RedIan said:
    Changes needed. Id like Garnacho on right. Anthony left Bruno central. Hook mount and Rashford.
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    With 10 men behind the ball nd hard fighting I don't trust Bruno at all. I don't believe he can calm himself down and organise that attack.
     
    Rightnr said:
    That goodbye De Gea thread was an absolute disgrace. So many clowns going in on a player who's been shown to be much better with a supposed CL level keeper looking like a buffoon
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    I mean. They’re both not good enough for United
     
    Mount getting a free pass is ridiculous he makes 2 or 3 5 yard passe, runs around a lot and hides. No surprise we have been crap since he arrived along with a dodgy goalkeeper.
     
    Manny said:
    Dalot having acres of space for a cross and hitting the first man sums up our chance creation
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    Mount had two corners in quick succession that failed to get past the first man.
    And when we are defending corners we never have a single player on the edge of the box. Hickey in this game has been having some shooting practice and with better quality would have scored. This happens all the time and is never changed. Where is the coaching in the round, let alone in-game coaching.
     
    Sandikan said:
    You're forgetting that a high percentage of quality players absolutely wilt when they come here.
    And De Gea let in a horrible amount of weak shots too. Remember against Brentford last season for just one.
    But Onana has had a shocking start. Approaching Taibi levels.
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    Disagree.
    This is as much as Onana knows nothing more.
    Do you think hes suddenly gonna become Buffon ? No way.
    I saw him play previously with Inter and he was atrocious.
    Might as well play him at cb.
    This is unfortunately Ten Hags fault
     
    Dec9003 said:
    Every time someone plays well they get dropped. It’s happened to Garnacho, Martial, Hannibal and most recently Eriksen this season. The players aren’t rewarded for doing well for him.
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    Yet the constant lazy ones are by being undroppable. Thought he was above having favourites clearly not

    The only things making me not want him sacked are our ridiculous injury list and there's no clear stand out candidate available. Convinced he's currently deciding whether to die on the Rashy, Bruno or Onana hill however
     
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