There was plenty of time remaining in the game to turn the performance around and come out on top. We usually perform better as the game goes on, but that didn't happen today.
Villa deserves credit for that showing today too. Done themselves proud.
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Manchester United 0:1 Aston Villa
Old Trafford
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There was plenty of time remaining in the game to turn the performance around and come out on top. We usually perform better as the game goes on, but that didn't happen today.
Villa deserves credit for that showing today too. Done themselves proud.
Of course Ole can't be blamed for the miss but he can be blamed for the shit show for the entire second half. Not respomding is nothing new from him.We're not progressing any more under Ole - this is his limit and he doesn't know more.
We're never going to the next level.
I would take Moyes over Ole. At least Moyes has tactical nous. Moyes was wrong because he wasnt a winner. He didn't have the talk of a winner. He was too pragmatic. Perfect for an Everton or West Ham
But Ole talks like he has the United DNA and talks about the importance of attack but plays McTominay and Fred at home against 'so called' weaker teams. He is as negative as Mourinho and with little of the kudos.
You can see unless blind our rivals have effective coaches. We dont.
Ole has to go if we are to stand a chance this season. He isnt a leader. And i will stand by thatWith all the fire power in the team, one would have thought that a United manager will utilize them.
With good strikers, United should have played with 2 attacking full backs that can cross the ball into the dangerous area. Dalot and Shaw should be first choice. Wan Bissaka cannot attack and should be reserve. Fred cannot win the ball in midfield as he is too short and weak. If United need to be combative in midfield, surely Matic should be played. Why buy a so expensive right winger and do not play him?
I think United needs a Conte and even Rafa Benitez would have done a good job if given the chance.
Conte. But he will shake the Old Trafford foundations. Hierarchy want a puppet it seems
I would with right players in that pisition. It's the three up front that doesn't work. Two strikers and four midfielders. That's the way it should be. You have fullbacks to push up the flanks. I don't want Pogba wide left and Green wide right. What a waste.
It's so strange - I can never make my mind up about the guy. Sometimes I think I want him, other times I think he's a fool! But boy, he is an upgrade on what we've got right now. Is there anyone in Germany we could poach. Can't help wondering what Nagelsman would have been likeAnyone but Ole. The board need to act..and act now
Moyes was utter crap at United. Absolutely clueless.Let’s see how we do against the big boys - after the next five games we know if the season is over in fact sadly
When you look around there are a ton of better, more astute managers that Ole in the Prem. Let's face it. He us a nice guy..but nice guys finish last.
I certainly agree with the last part. Villa were 100% the better team; they controlled the match and mostly outplayed us.Yet another shitshow from the team. It's time to sack some players.
His problem was he thought he was managing Everton. He is clearly not a useless manager.
We cant. Ole has had his chance. Ole out Conte in
See the bigger picture
But our signings havent made sense to a greater degree. We aren't a better side than we were last season and look how much money we have spent. I said it before and will say it again. We are a Lamborghini chassis and interior with a Lada engine steered by a learner driver
Yes exactly who's out there, deemed good enough in most people's eyes. I think Oles got the CL group stage games then if it's no improvement he's gone.
moyes was fecking shit for united. This is a joke of a post
I would take Zidane right now if it was for me. Bar last season, he won at least one trophy at any time when he either started a season or came at a decent time to salvage something.Im all aboard the give Ole sht train but I have to say the players need to take some of the blame. We have a lot of players just not playing well.
The joke is on you to be fair.
It isnt saying we should bring back Moyes. It is saying Moyes is a far better manager than Ole. Moyes right now would get another Prem job. Where would Ole go?
What has Zidane done outside of Real Madrid as a manager? Always a danger taking on someone else's club legend. Why Ole will struggle to get another Prem job when he leaves.I just don't understand the rating system. Rating for Cavani is available but not Lindelof?Lost two defenders now for god knows how long…gonna be a long season
Thanks, but, no, I didn't enjoy the day
Fair enough. I dare say you’re right.
It’s just something about the laminated ring-bound stuff that puts me off. Being married to a teacher who hates planning and enjoys winging it has probably affected my judgement
They both walked off so hopefully not too long. Not the UCL game though
No. The joke is your claim
Oh pulease. There is objective evidence that Moyes is much worse than Ole. They held the same job and Moyes not only did worse he got fired 6 months into a 6 year contract. Ole in comparison has gone from a temporary 6 months stint to a permanent deal and a renewal. So spare us your 'where would he end up if he left United' speculation. I for one don't bloody care. I'm just certain Ole < Moyes as a United manager. Period. Trying to site Moyes doing well again at his real level doesn't count on bit
Man. You are so wide of the mark in your analysis of the abilities of Moyes against Ole it is untrue. Ole's career based on resources available pales in comparison to Moyes's. I ask again. Which club in the Prem takes Ole right now. And which clubs would want Moyes? Bigger picture!
Am I? You want to deny their respective records at the same level of club? Or you want to insist on the fallacy of trying to compare Moyes at a lower level to Ole at United? Two can play that silly game. I can start saying Ole won things at a lower level which Moyes never has......
Does it? Moyes was sacked 8 months into a 6 year deal after taking defending champions to the position of no hoppers and likely to miss out on Europe. Has Ole done the same with the windows and time he has been in control of United?
Again I repeat. I don't give a rats arse who else may or may not hire soklsjaer post United because it has feck all to do with ANY "bigger picture". Just like I don't give a rats arse Moyes is now doing well again at West Ham neither. He was at OT and was objectively far worse than Ole. Its actual fact and actual history. I also l=know for a fact Ole will leave United in a better state than he found it. Moyes in comparison set us a decade back which we are yet to fully recover from.....Not very fair for Moyes. If I remember correctly, Moyes has a injury-laden club. His players like Rooney, RVP, Evra or Rio were all mostly injured.
Congrats @Baneofthegame, @GregM40, @The Brown Bull, @.Phil1968, @RedDevilRoshi
Wild that three of you predicted Henderson to come on and still got 16 points. What was the thinking behind the sub choices?Why would Henderson come on? De Gea will never get injured.
Greg messaged me and said it was a mistake on his part, but for the other two (Dalot and Lindelof) he thought we'd get a few goals and be able to rest Maguire and ShawIf only Matic had come on too we'd have been ok
To be honest, I thought the subs were just people likely to be on the bench, only realised after I’d picked that it’s to come on the pitch!Not Carra's biggest fan, but he has a point.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/12420138/how-set-piece-failures-hurt-man-utdTo be honest, I thought the subs were just people likely to be on the bench, only realised after I’d picked that it’s to come on the pitch!
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Man of the Match
Runners-up
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21%
Mason Greenwood
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16%
Raphael Varane
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13%
Aaron Wan-Bissaka
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6%
Paul Pogba
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4%
Diogo Dalot
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4%
Bruno Fernandes
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2%
Fred
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2%
Cristiano Ronaldo
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1%
Edinson Cavani
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1%
Luke Shaw
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1%
Harry Maguire
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Scott McTominay
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
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Compiled from 276 ratings.
Score Predictions
223,11,12
- Man Utd win
- Aston Villa win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 24% Man Utd 2:0 Aston Villa
- 20% Man Utd 2:1 Aston Villa
- 17% Man Utd 3:1 Aston Villa
- 16% Man Utd 3:0 Aston Villa
- 4% Man Utd 4:0 Aston Villa
- 3% Man Utd 1:1 Aston Villa
- 3% Man Utd 4:1 Aston Villa
- 2% Man Utd 1:0 Aston Villa
- 2% Man Utd 5:0 Aston Villa
- 2% Man Utd 1:2 Aston Villa
- 1% Man Utd 0:0 Aston Villa
- 1% Man Utd 3:2 Aston Villa
- 1% Man Utd 0:3 Aston Villa
- 1% Man Utd 0:5 Aston Villa
- 1% Man Utd 2:2 Aston Villa
- 0% Man Utd 0:1 Aston Villa
- 0% Man Utd 1:3 Aston Villa
- 0% Man Utd 0:2 Aston Villa
- 0% Man Utd 5:1 Aston Villa
Match Stats
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- Aston Villa
- Possession
- 60% 40%
- Shots
- 28 7
- Shots on Target
- 4 3
- Corners
- 5 5
- Fouls
- 9 13
Referee
Mike Dean
Man Utd Lineup
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