Manchester United 2:2 Arsenal

Sunny Jim · Dec 5, 2018

Sassy Colin said:
None of our subs had any impact, whatsoever.

Oh they had impact. Negative.

GledTheRed · Dec 5, 2018

GifLord said:

Unlucky Count Chocula

VP89 · Dec 5, 2018

Sassy Colin said:
And you Pogba's biggest fan, and all.

Oh yes!

Red00012 · Dec 5, 2018

Is Emery Neville’s long lost brother

Camy89 · Dec 5, 2018

GledTheRed said:
OK mate nice one, you win the battle of the internet tonight. I'll go to bed and lick my wounds.

Battle of the internet? What?

I'm just calling you out on ridiculous statements.

ForestRGoinUp · Dec 5, 2018

Which stops sinking first: the standard required by United fans or United's position in the table?

GledTheRed · Dec 5, 2018

Camy89 said:
Battle of the internet? What?

I'm just calling you out on ridiculous statements.

Ridiculous in your eyes. Know it all!

GledTheRed · Dec 5, 2018

Camy89 said:
Battle of the internet? What?

I'm just calling you out on ridiculous statements.

What's so ridiculous know it all?

Because I said game over at 1-0 down? Is that so difficult to believe considerring our current form and confidence levels? I'm entitled to an opinion as much as the next man, I don't ridicule you and search out your every post. I've actually got a life.

Lennon7 · Dec 5, 2018

ForestRGoinUp said:
Because he called the manager out on playing scared.

Ahhh I see, that’s why he’s jogging round uninterested. Fair enough.

I’m in no way backing Mourinho by the way, but unless we’d get someone in to sort Pogba out they both need to feck off.

ForestRGoinUp · Dec 5, 2018

LennonNL said:
Ahhh I see, that’s why he’s jogging round uninterested. Fair enough.

I’m in no way backing Mourinho by the way, but unless we’d get someone in to sort Pogba out they both need to feck off.

Shouldn’t be that hard considering all his other managers have figured him out and Jose is the only one that can’t.

Camy89 · Dec 5, 2018

GledTheRed said:
What's so ridiculous know it all?

Because I said game over at 1-0 down? Is that so difficult to believe considerring our current form and confidence levels? I'm entitled to an opinion as much as the next man, I don't ridicule you and search out your every post. I've actually got a life.

Yes.

Granted, I wasn't particularly surprised, and had predicted a loss for United, however, just throwing your arms up after 26 minutes and declaring game over was a bit of a knee-jerk reaction. I agree with you that our state of play and confidence is low, but when we're playing at home there's always a chance for something to happen in the next 64 minutes.

I'm not denying you of an opinion, nobody can do that, I'm just annoyed by comments such as these. We're both supporters of the same team, and through watching the dross we've had to endure the past few years I've learnt to maintain a small bit of hope and not just give up.

It was re-iterated to me when I went to see United v Liverpool (the 1-1 draw with Zlatan getting the equaliser), the guy I was sitting next to was about 75 and was a season ticket holder. Everyone was losing their minds around us, including me, and he kept saying 'we're playing OK, we'll get one'. We did in the end and it made me realise that giving up hope is futile. Fair enough at 3-0 down and 5 mins to go, but 1-0 down? You never know.

I'm glad you have a life, I have one also (albeit in Aberdeen).

GledTheRed · Dec 5, 2018

Camy89 said:
Yes.

Granted, I wasn't particularly surprised, and had predicted a loss for United, however, just throwing your arms up after 26 minutes and declaring game over was a bit of a knee-jerk reaction. I agree with you that our state of play and confidence is low, but when we're playing at home there's always a chance for something to happen in the next 64 minutes.

I'm not denying you of an opinion, nobody can do that, I'm just annoyed by comments such as these. We're both supporters of the same team, and through watching the dross we've had to endure the past few years I've learnt to maintain a small bit of hope and not just give up.

It was re-iterated to me when I went to see United v Liverpool (the 1-1 draw with Zlatan getting the equaliser), the guy I was sitting next to was about 75 and was a season ticket holder. Everyone was losing their minds around us, including me, and he kept saying 'we're playing OK, we'll get one'. We did in the end and it made me realise that giving up hope is futile. Fair enough at 3-0 down and 5 mins to go, but 1-0 down? You never know.

I'm glad you have a life, I have one also (albeit in Aberdeen).

Right OK mate that's fair enough. I'm just pissed off with whole club at the moment , seeing a 30 million quid defender wildly slice a clearance barely out of our defence tips me over the edge. Don't get me started on Lukaku....

Herrera, Rashford & Martial get credit, the former two for effort the latter for quality.

Camy89 · Dec 5, 2018

GledTheRed said:
Right OK mate that's fair enough. I'm just pissed off with whole club at the moment , seeing a 30 million quid defender wildly slice a clearance barely out of our defence tips me over the edge. Don't get me started on Lukaku....

Herrera, Rashford & Martial get credit, the former two for effort the latter for quality.

You and me both mate, I saw that and just resorted back to my pint and watched the Motherwell v Celtic game for a bit.

Lennon7 · Dec 6, 2018

ForestRGoinUp said:
Shouldn’t be that hard considering all his other managers have figured him out and Jose is the only one that can’t.

All his other managers? He was good for France in the World Cup and broke through with Juve - but regardless I’m not questioning his talent. His attitude is atrocious. Not professional at all.

Buster15 · Dec 6, 2018

Coops73 said:
I’ve been listening to 5live too. I would seriously consider decking that cnut if I saw him in the street... even in front of my kids.

If your kids had heard him they would probably join in.
What I want to know is who actually thinks he is worth being paid to say the first stupid thing that comes into his retarded brain and then repeating it time after time.

I regularly email the BBC but they ignore me so they are just as bad.

ForestRGoinUp · Dec 6, 2018

LennonNL said:
All his other managers? He was good for France in the World Cup and broke through with Juve - but regardless I’m not questioning his talent. His attitude is atrocious. Not professional at all.

Don't see it that way. If I owned a company and say there was a general manager of sorts, CEO whatever the case may be. And then there was also a really talented employee working under that manager. And then also say my company's performance had dipped significantly under this CEO and there were rumblings of unrest among the employees. An undeniably fair comparison so far...

As the owner, I would listen to both the CEO and my most valuable employees to assess what's going wrong. Is my most valuable up and coming employee, who has clashed with the CEO, right or is he wrong? Which of them is more valuable to my company and turning it around? He's had the balls to speak up about the issues in the company, so am I better off taking offence to that and binning him or do I see it as a sign that he is assertive and wants to turn things around? I've seen how good he can be for the company, but his performance has gotten inconsistent. Is that purely a problem with him or are there legitimate reasons - such as the CEO's own inconsistent performances, poor judgement and really poor attitude?

Hopefully, for the sake of the club's future, the situation might be assessed similarly.

Coops73 · Dec 6, 2018

Buster15 said:
If your kids had heard him they would probably join in.
What I want to know is who actually thinks he is worth being paid to say the first stupid thing that comes into his retarded brain and then repeating it time after time.

I regularly email the BBC but they ignore me so they are just as bad.

One of my daughters friends dad works for Five live, he’s a United fan. I asked him if Alan Green really was a fecking twat, he said he was alright but when Savage walked into the office everyone knew about it because he was a loudmouth knobhead. Not all the people can be wrong.

Buster15 · Dec 7, 2018

Coops73 said:
One of my daughters friends dad works for Five live, he’s a United fan. I asked him if Alan Green really was a fecking twat, he said he was alright but when Savage walked into the office everyone knew about it because he was a loudmouth knobhead. Not all the people can be wrong.

Interesting.
I really like Alan Green as a football commentator. He is brilliant at describing the play such that you can understand where the ball is and passes being made. It is as good as watching when you are not able to watch it.

I like controversial people who are perfectly happy to say what they think, good or bad.

However, I have no time at all for idiots and Robbie Savage is a number 1 idiot.
Good old BBC.

Lennon7 · Dec 8, 2018

ForestRGoinUp said:
Don't see it that way. If I owned a company and say there was a general manager of sorts, CEO whatever the case may be. And then there was also a really talented employee working under that manager. And then also say my company's performance had dipped significantly under this CEO and there were rumblings of unrest among the employees. An undeniably fair comparison so far...

As the owner, I would listen to both the CEO and my most valuable employees to assess what's going wrong. Is my most valuable up and coming employee, who has clashed with the CEO, right or is he wrong? Which of them is more valuable to my company and turning it around? He's had the balls to speak up about the issues in the company, so am I better off taking offence to that and binning him or do I see it as a sign that he is assertive and wants to turn things around? I've seen how good he can be for the company, but his performance has gotten inconsistent. Is that purely a problem with him or are there legitimate reasons - such as the CEO's own inconsistent performances, poor judgement and really poor attitude?

Hopefully, for the sake of the club's future, the situation might be assessed similarly.

Silly comparison. He plays for Manchetser United, we’re underperforming on the pitch but we’re still a huge club. The players should be playing to the best of their ability whether they get along with the manager or not.

If you want to compare it to the real world, it’s like working for a renowned professional establishment like Deloitte or Goldman Sachs or something, and realising you’ve got a job to do whether or not you agree with the management or enjoy working there. Whilst you’re getting paid by a company to do a high level job you do that fecking job.

ForestRGoinUp · Dec 8, 2018

LennonNL said:
Silly comparison. He plays for Manchetser United, we’re underperforming on the pitch but we’re still a huge club. The players should be playing to the best of their ability whether they get along with the manager or not.

If you want to compare it to the real world, it’s like working for a renowned professional establishment like Deloitte or Goldman Sachs or something, and realising you’ve got a job to do whether or not you agree with the management or enjoy working there. Whilst you’re getting paid by a company to do a high level job you do that fecking job.

Ah so it’s not like working for a company, but it’s like working for a company. Got it.

Lennon7 · Dec 8, 2018

ForestRGoinUp said:
Ah so it’s not like working for a company, but it’s like working for a company. Got it.

Where did I say it’s not like working for a company? It is, but your comparison was off. It’s like working for a prestigious company where only the hardest workers are accepted. If you slacked at a big company in an important role you’d be out the door. Pogba needs to put in the effort and be a professional otherwise he can leave - back to an easier league where everything at the club is perfect for him.

ForestRGoinUp · Dec 8, 2018

LennonNL said:
Where did I say it’s not like working for a company? It is, but your comparison was off. It’s like working for a prestigious company where only the hardest workers are accepted. If you slacked at a big company in an important role you’d be out the door. Pogba needs to put in the effort and be a professional otherwise he can leave - back to an easier league where everything at the club is perfect for him.

Accepting only the hardest workers has us relying consistently on Ashley Young, Lingard, Fellaini, McTominay, Herrera and others who will not carry the club forward. In fact it's taken the club back a few levels. To your comparison, sure it is like a prestigious company, but moreso a once prestigious company that has been shuffling through CEO's. That's not Deloitte or Goldman but more so like a brand that is losing market share and talent and failing to innovate.

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