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Manchester City 0:0 Manchester United

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Thu, 27 April 2017 @ 8:00pm BST
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    Cheesy said:
    He's moving his head towards Fellaini in the sense that he's walking towards him...but he doesn't actually go for the headbutt. Maybe he would have, but the ref can only act on what's actually happened, and in that incident it's Fellaini who headbutts him. There's no defensive action in it from Fellaini, he didn't need to move his head forward at all like that, and should've known Aguero was trying to incite the incident.
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    See my post above, when Fellaini bends his head forward Agüero moves his head towards Fellaini and then gets a bilateral stroke that makes his legs give way.
     
    Wasn't a proper headbutt, Aguero has mugged both him and the ref off.

    Should have just booked both players and given Fellaini his marching orders that way. The straight red was really harsh.

    I thought Atkinson was really poor again, he let the City defenders go through the back of Rashford all night.
     
    SachinJ22 said:
    The foul which he did didn't deserve an yellow card because it was his first foul.
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    Answering you again, just because it was his first foul doesn't mean it wasn't a yellow. Otherwise it just gives players excuse to scythe down opponents with their first tackle. He made a professional foul, took one for the team, knowing fully he'd get booked. The rest was him arguing for the sake of it.
     
    hobbers said:
    No, he got played. Totally played.

    Firstly he didnt need to chase Aguero. Secondly he didn't need to give him an excuse to go down again given where Aguero was on the pitch and what direction he was going in. Thirdly he didn't need to stoop his stupid shaggy head down to meet him. Just by virtue of being the taller player and not going down it was always going to look like he was in the wrong.
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    You aren't getting what I am saying, he would have got an yellow for the alleged head butt if the ref hadn't given him a yellow for his first foul and City took a quick free kick after the first foul and Fellaini was out of his position. Even I don't like Fellaini but he might have been frustrated the ref booked him for a first while there fouls committed against Fellaini and the ref didn't do anything.
     
    kouroux said:
    Answering you again, just because it was his first foul doesn't mean it wasn't a yellow. Otherwise it just gives players excuse to scythe down opponents with their first tackle. He made a professional foul, took one for the team, knowing fully he'd get booked. The rest was him arguing for the sake of it.
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    You mean like he booked Fernandinho for making a professional foul, taking one for the team with his first tackle? Oh wait, he never got booked, how silly of me.

    Edit: I'm not saying it was not a yellow, because I think it was in a regular game and under regular circumstances, but there was a staggering inconsistency from the ref in not booking City players for similar offenses, like when Fernandinho just stuck his leg out behind his back in waist-height when Mkhitaryan was breaking through the middle. So if you're going to set a higher standard for a derby, then apply it properly.
     
    Anustart89 said:
    See my post above, when Fellaini bends his head forward Agüero moves his head towards Fellaini and then gets a bilateral stroke that makes his legs give way.
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    Aguero moves his head in a manner which shows someone anticipating a headbutt. It's not a direct, forward motion in order to make contact with the opposition player. Fellaini's the one leaning in...there was little Aguero would've been able to actually achieve there if he was going for a headbutt.
     
    TheReligion said:
    Despite their possession and taking the emotions out of the game I genuinely don't think they looked like scoring tonight.

    Given how broken up our first XI is through injuries and fatigue, and the fact Fellaini left us with 10 men, a good away point for us. Keeps the unbeaten mentality going too.
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    You seriously blaming Fellaini for this ?? We got 2 shots on goal . City got 18 . Besides that he got red in the 86th min .
     
    Cheesy said:
    What? You're not making sense here. Fellaini moves his head in a forward motion (albeit a very small one) and connects with Aguero. It's therefore a heabutt. And a red card.
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    Even Augero moved his head forward but that's not a head butt? Nice logic.
     
    Anustart89 said:
    You mean like he booked Fernandinho for making a professional foul, taking one for the team with his first tackle? Oh wait, he never got booked, how silly of me.
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    Like I keep saying, just because the ref fecks up with other players in terms of consistency, it doesn't mean we have to expect the same. Fellaini deserved to be booked the first time, what Fernandinho did has feck all to do with it.
    It is unfair but it is how it is.
     
    Cheesy said:
    He's moving his head towards Fellaini in the sense that he's walking towards him...but he doesn't actually go for the headbutt. Maybe he would have, but the ref can only act on what's actually happened, and in that incident it's Fellaini who headbutts him. There's no defensive action in it from Fellaini, he didn't need to move his head forward at all like that, and should've known Aguero was trying to incite the incident.
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    Exactly
     
    Well... considering how pear-shaped that all went at min 85 a point is great. WE still have a game in hand that if we win will allow us to leapfrog the scousers.
     
    kouroux said:
    Like I keep saying, just because the ref fecks up with other players in terms of consistency, it doesn't mean we have to expect the same. Fellaini deserved to be booked the first time, what Fernandinho did has feck all to do with it.
    It is unfair but it is how it is.
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    Of course we have to expect the same. That's what impartial refereeing is, and what should be expected. It does have a lot to do with it if the referee's whistle serves as a way to apply a standard to the game. If the ref, for whatever reason, lets one team throw the ball into the net, then surely you'd be aggravated if he, in the same game, did not allow the other team to do it. So be consistent with the rules that you set for a game.
     
    We just witnessed another Jose bus parking masterclass.

    Whatever we say about this team, it is extremely HARD to beat.
     
    Anustart89 said:
    Of course we have to expect the same. That's what impartial refereeing is, and what should be expected. It does have a lot to do with it if the referee's whistle serves as a way to apply a standard to the game. If the ref, for whatever reason, lets one team throw the ball into the net, then surely you'd be aggravated if he, in the same game, did not allow the other team to do it. So be consistent with the rules that you set for a game.
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    Of couse you cannot expect the same because we don't live in a fantasy world. PL referees are horrendous and Atkinso is probably the worse of the lot. Atkinson fecks up on one hand, don't expect any reciprocity from him. Just focus on your own and more than anything else, do not give him any chance to feck up.
     
    We better make this point worth and beat Swansea on Sunday. After this awful display it's good to have a result now we should play for a win.
     
    We Could have won that and until the sending off we were not troubled at all. This was like barcelona away. I think had herrera scored we could have won by more than one hitting them on the break. I think jose played on that and we missed our chance. Still draw gets us a point closer to liverpool who will be under pressure as if we win against swansea we are ahead of them and they by no means have easy games. I think jose came for smash and grab and was one decent header or a calm finish from mkhi away from getting it.

    The possitive
    We are really tough to score against, even with so many injuries the defensive discipline is fantastic
    We are closer to top 4 than we have been in whole season
    City away point is always a point won especially with 10 men.

    I dont think there are any negatives, some might be angry as why we dint attack but a defeat could have ended our top 4 hopes and so i am not complaining.
     
    EyeInTheSky said:
    Pogba would have found Rashford all night in that game and Zlatan would have put the Herrera header away or the one from the bravo blunder

    But yeah, blessings in disguise and all that. Feck off
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    That term was not used for him stop the sarcasm
     
    Fellaini was pretty foolish to have a go twice in 30 seconds, but some of that blame has to go on the ref. The ref let foul after foul go for far too long. Waiting until the 84th minute to start booking players is insane, especially in a derby. Then Aguero comes fishing for a reaction. When you put your face to within 6-8 inches of another person's face, you can usually expect one of two things, a kiss, or a reaction to get you out of their face. Getting up in another player's face should be as cardable of an offense as it is when they do it do a ref. It certainly goes against the sportsmanship of the game.
     
    christinaa said:
    What's racist about that?!

    Don't be stupid - I was intimating that Fernandinho has been boxing everyone all over the field of play and can go and fight in the ring. That's all. Can't you understand something so simple?!
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    I know I was just being silly.
     
    MadMike said:
    In the same post you acknowledge that they've been asked to sit deep and criticise our MFs for not pressing. How did you manage that :lol:
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    They can concede the ground but when the players come into their area they can apply pressure better. What part of that do you need explaining?
     
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69% 31%
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19 3
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7 4
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