Istanbul Basaksehir 2:1 Manchester United

JG3001 · Nov 4, 2020

Tom Cato said:
Zidane literally just lost at home and drew away in the CL and is still in the job.

This is hyperbole.

Stop being disingenuous.

I think you can get some leeway when you’ve won 3 CL and 2 La Liga

Edit: One of those literally being end of last season.

christinaa · Nov 4, 2020

If we were playing in the Italian Serie A then Ole would have been removed a long time ago.

But the onus is also on the players (are they playing shite to get him out?!), and on those clowns from Ed, Judge and the Glazers. Please sell and go away!!

Tapori · Nov 4, 2020

Greck said:
the game has turned out to be an awful game to bed him in. Being the last line of an exposed defence doesn't help.

Aye, poor lad.

Heardy · Nov 4, 2020

fps said:
Pogba continues to play at his level. His reputation from his time in Italy is ridiculously inflated.

Still seems to turn it on far more for France than us sadly.

vanrooney · Nov 4, 2020

that was shit. i am a fan of ole but i think he is gone if we dondt win against everton

Buster15 · Nov 4, 2020

JG3001 said:
If this was Chelsea, Bayern, Barcelona, Real Madrid, he’d be sacked immediately after this game had finished

Who can argue with that.

Acheron · Nov 4, 2020

Tom Cato said:
Zidane literally just lost at home and drew away in the CL and is still in the job.

This is hyperbole.

It isn't the same at all. :lol:

Withnail · Nov 4, 2020

KekiZeki said:
Lets not lose our heads here. These things happen, we have the group in the bag basically already. On to the next thing.

Over and over and over again?

When you have a bad performance and you put it right next time.

They should have come out firing and blew these jokers away out of professional pride.

Will Singh · Nov 4, 2020

Tom Cato said:
Zidane literally just lost at home and drew away in the CL and is still in the job.

This is hyperbole.

Yeah Zidane ain't done nothing in the CL as a player or manager get rid of him

Tom Cato · Nov 4, 2020

Acheron said:
It isn't the same at all.

Read the post Im replying to friend

Heinzesight · Nov 4, 2020

Sad to say but looks like our two CL wins previous were just fluke. I really believed it would be a turning point but we look worse. We played better in the Spurs 6-1 than we did the last two matches.

Asger · Nov 4, 2020

Hugh Jass said:
Bring on Greenwood for Mata asap and then sell mata to whomever.

Can that team get AWB and Maguire for free as well?

United Hobbit · Nov 4, 2020

If he comes out and tries to say how the boys will come together and we know this wasn't good enough and we win and lose as a team...

KekiZeki · Nov 4, 2020

Withnail said:
Over and over and over again?

When you have a bad performance and you put it right next time.

They should have come out firing and blew these jokers away out of professional pride.

Ideally we would, but it's not like this game has a season ridding on it. They came out playing like they never played before and for us it's a boring, cold, Wednesday in Turkey.

Buster15 · Nov 4, 2020

vanrooney said:
that was shit. i am a fan of ole but i think he is gone if we dondt win against everton

But it really should not be just about one game should it.
I continually ask the question:
Is Ole the right man to take this club and transform it back to a team capable of winning the PL and CL.
And at no time since he has been here have I thought that he was even close to that.
And every time I listen to him speaking I am more and more convinced he is not.

BeforeKeanetherewasRobson · Nov 4, 2020

Crimson King said:
Is this genuine criticism? We scored from it...if TAA cut back onto his right and put in a cross like that you wouldn't criticise him for not using his left to lob one in, I'd bet.

The fact you can find a reason to criticise Shaw for one of the few bright moments in that shit show just highlights your own bias against him.

Calm down Tigger.

It was a direct comparison about style (I presume you've seen "THE" Gemmill goal) and a tongue in cheek comparison as I liked Gemmill as a player. Under rated.

That's all.

Just because you put 2 and 2 together to make 5 and say criticise/criticism 3 times, doesn't make it true.

Not every post can be interpreted the way you/I/anyone thinks and be certain we're right.

But just for you... it was a good move and cross and one of the few bright moments in a very very poor performance.

Have a good evening.

Heinzesight · Nov 4, 2020

Would love a style of play one day. Just some sort of identity but we just flit from one formation and style to another. It’s not even being adaptable...it’s just wank and hope for the best tactics. Love Ole but can only see this ending badly and soon.

My only Eric · Nov 4, 2020

KekiZeki said:
Ideally we would, but it's not like this game has a season ridding on it. They came out playing like they never played before and for us it's a boring, cold, Wednesday in Turkey.

Is this really an attempt at excuse?

Acheron · Nov 4, 2020

Tom Cato said:
Read the post Im replying to friend

Yeahh, I looked at that post and I think his right mate. Someone like Ole would had been long sacked at Real Madrid based on mediocre results and even worse display of football. Zidane's position has been questioned recently until he won el clásico against Barcelona, that and the fact he has won 11 titles as Real Madrid manager; so he has far more credit and tolerance (although I'm still a bit concerned with the performance on the team lately...).

Withnail · Nov 4, 2020

KekiZeki said:
Ideally we would, but it's not like this game has a season ridding on it. They came out playing like they never played before and for us it's a boring, cold, Wednesday in Turkey.

They weren't even that good.

Ideally? This was a chance to practically wrap up CL qualification and take some pressure off the other matches.

The weather? I was talking about professional pride ffs :lol:

The manager was looking for a reaction and gets that. It's a very bad sign.

L1nk · Nov 4, 2020

Livewire1974 · Nov 4, 2020

UnitedSofa said:
I’m a HUGE Ole In fan, unashamedly so, but come on, you can’t blame crap defending on Ole.

Basic defense is down to the manager, who will be gone in a week.

Maureen-yo · Nov 4, 2020

BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Shaw is so one footed... for that assist, it was like watching Archie Gemmill against the Dutch.

(Without the talent).

Is this a joke? You're criticising a player for getting an assist with his stronger foot rather than not getting one with his weaker foot? Some supporter.

Crimson King · Nov 4, 2020

BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Calm down Tigger.

It was a direct comparison about style (I presume you've seen "THE" Gemmill goal) and a tongue in cheek comparison as I liked Gemmill as a player. Under rated.

That's all.

Just because you put 2 and 2 together to make 5 and say criticise/criticism 3 times, doesn't make it true.

Not every post can be interpreted the way you/I/anyone thinks and be certain we're right.

But just for you... it was a good move and cross and one of the few bright moments in a very very poor performance.

Have a good evening.

Tigger? Ok sure, whatever you say.

And I've seen the goal.

UnofficialDevil · Nov 4, 2020

Apparently its the first time this team has ever won in the CL. They have now against the mighty Manchester United. Thanks Ole.

Dr. Dwayne · Nov 4, 2020

L1nk said:

Maguire is a headless chicken. WTF is he doing over there?

Footy van de Geek · Nov 4, 2020

It's best for everyone that we sack him after the Everton game.

Even if we beat Everton 3-0, I would still get rid of him.

The players looked low on confidence tonight. Even Bruno.

Withnail · Nov 4, 2020

Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
Looks like those clowns at United have done it again.

What a bunch of clowns.

eltigreFalcao · Nov 4, 2020

drunkmonkmeth said:
if you're ole in at this point you need to feck off

will do, thanks for the advise!

crossy1686 · Nov 4, 2020

kouroux said:
However bad he is currently playing, it doesn't change the fact that he had a good World Cup

I wasn't specifically referring to Pogba, more the lack of leaders in the team

KekiZeki · Nov 4, 2020

Withnail said:
They weren't even that good.

Ideally? This was a chance to practically wrap up CL qualification and take some pressure off the other matches.

The weather? I was talking about professional pride ffs The manager was looking for a reaction and gets that. It's a very bad sign.

And you don't think we'll progress? Be real, it's one unimportant away game that will be forgotten as it won't count for shit once the group stage is over.

Hammondo · Nov 4, 2020

Smores said:
Because we're playing a nothing team and we shouldn't need to be so defensive. The fact we think they're needed shows how poorly we're setup.

It's nothing about being defensive. Having lots of attacks on today didn't make us less defensive, such an odd way of looking at things.

Having those 2 of gives other players far more freedom, better structure, and more ball dominance.

BeforeKeanetherewasRobson · Nov 4, 2020

Maureen-yo said:
Is this a joke? You're criticising a player for getting an assist with his stronger foot rather than not getting one with his weaker foot? Some supporter.

Nah, you just can't read something and think that it just might not mean what you initially think and rather than ask why or just leave it, you try and be smart and say "some supporter".

Some poster.

BeforeKeanetherewasRobson · Nov 4, 2020

Crimson King said:
Tigger? Ok sure, whatever you say.

And I've seen the goal.

Well there you go. You'll see the similarities.

It's a throwaway post. I get you're pissed because we lost (and at the time, we were losing) but it really wasn't what you thought it was.

I can't say that any other way or convince you otherwise. I know what I meant, you know what you think it meant (it didn't). We move on.

Have a good evening.

Fredo · Nov 4, 2020

Why does Shaw need to take the corners? This is similar to Jones taking them back then, and we are already a defender short on the counter.. Like seriously wtf why doesnt Bruno take them?

Dve · Nov 4, 2020

Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
Maguire is a headless chicken. WTF is he doing over there?

Very much misleading screen shot. If you look at the situation ahead of this, Maguire was left alone in there and he had to follow the run of the one closest to the one carrying the ball as Tuanzebe left him to go into press. If he didn´t, we would have been blank on goal. But where were Shaw and Matic? Mata was entering the scene too late, and Maguire was left alone with 3 of their players and I don´t see what he could have done to save the situation. But I suppose the screen shot fits the agenda against him. Maguire did not have a bad game today.

GifLord · Nov 5, 2020

Nicoseth · Nov 5, 2020

Ole, I love you, but you've done all you can. Time for a change.

Mike Oxard · Nov 5, 2020

Deery said:
£46m wasn’t it

€80m with add ons.

Web of Bissaka · Nov 5, 2020

Fredo said:
Why does Shaw need to take the corners? This is similar to Jones taking them back then, and we are already a defender short on the counter.. Like seriously wtf why doesnt Bruno take them?

Because Shaw's left corner taking is good and more consistent.
Bruno's left corner tend to be less consistent but can be better.

We put Bruno around the box to increase scoring chances when Shaw is taking it.

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