Chelsea 4:0 Manchester United

Reddevilboy · Oct 23, 2016

All our rivals dropped points during the weekend except Liverpool. Must have been a perfect weekend for Liverpool fans.

Havak · Oct 23, 2016

10/11 - thought he might have stuck with Young from the Liverpool game.

Little surprised Shaw isn't in the squad, but as long as it's not an injury I'm sure he'll play against City.

I don't get why people are surprised Mkhitaryan isn't involved. Sure he's fit now, but I highly doubt he's ready to just be thrown into big games like this. If he didn't make the bench against Fenerbahce he was never being involved here. He'll come back against City and get some more minutes in the remaining Europa League games, might be limited to substitute appearances in the PL at first as he has to displace the likes of Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Young, Mata whom none of which are exactly playing badly. However, he'll be like a new signing (again :lol:

) over the Christmas period and next year when he's had a chance to put a run of games together.

As for this game, it'd be a huge marker laid down if we can get a win - only Liverpool have won in the top half of the table, although I'd definitely take a draw due to our not-so-good record against Chelsea in the PL era (I think they're the only team we have a negative record against).

Dobba · Oct 23, 2016

Kaos said:
If we can win this I reckon we can go on a bit of a streak and climb up the table considerably, especially with Arsenal and Shitty dropping points.

Big if with our recent record against Chelsea.

Revan · Oct 23, 2016

Martial not starting doesn't surprise me. Rashford is playing better at the moment, and Lingard is having a very good form.

Gasolin · Oct 23, 2016

Dobba said:
Big if with our recent record against Chelsea.

Agreed this is a very difficult stadium. It would be against the odds to win there but it could be magnificent...

charlenefan · Oct 23, 2016

Win and we're 3 points off top... it's the hope that kills you

Kaos · Oct 23, 2016

Dobba said:
Big if with our recent record against Chelsea.

That's the Chelsea of old, I'm not entirely convinced with Conte just yet, especially since he's still stuck in some perpetual tinkering mode.

togg · Oct 23, 2016

charlenefan said:
Win and we're 3 points off top... it's the hope that kills you

Yeah...we never do it the more simple way....

Un4givableB · Oct 23, 2016

ManUnitedCanuck said:
Great opportunity for us to move up the table and be right back in contention, hoping for a good performance and to testing their back line.

Come on United!!!

City,Arsenal & Spurs not winning games they expect to win,makes the Liverpool point look even better and if we get anything here today,that's a good fortnight imho.

DomesticTadpole · Oct 23, 2016

Revan said:
Martial not starting doesn't surprise me. Rashford is playing better at the moment, and Lingard is having a very good form.

Martial and Mata could be brilliant impact subs.

melatonin · Oct 23, 2016

Fixed that

togg said:
Yeah...we never do it

saivet · Oct 23, 2016

Rooney hid an injury?

Must admit I didn't even notice he wasn't even in the squad. How he has fallen.

AkaAkuma& · Oct 23, 2016

Mou is looking to park the bus(planted a tree in the middle too for extra insurance), then look to counter or hoof. Expected tactic from him. Not attractive but if effective, good enough.

Castia · Oct 23, 2016

Marcelinho87 said:
People keep doing this and keep getting proved to be wrong game in and game out.

Let us all just agree that Fellaini deserves to start, at least in games like this.

Really? I think we look both technically and tactically a million times better with either Carrick in CM or Mata at AM than when Fellaini starts.

Needham · Oct 23, 2016

saivet said:
Rooney hid an injury?

Must admit I didn't even notice he wasn't even in the squad. How he has fallen.

Maybe that's what caused the injury.

ManUnitedCanuck · Oct 23, 2016

Un4givableB said:
City,Arsenal & Spurs not winning games they expect to win,makes the Liverpool point look even better and if we get anything here today,that's a good fortnight imho.

Agreed!!!

ash_86 · Oct 23, 2016

Neville talking some sense there. Imagine if we had lost to Liverpool, the pressure would be very immense here. Lets sail the tide safely and reach the shore first.

Massive Spanner · Oct 23, 2016

Looked a little emotional there, did Jose.

3KDré · Oct 23, 2016

Disappointed with the line up to be honest. I think if we played with a front three of Rashford, Lingard and Martial we'd be a lot better off. Their defence has errors in them with Cahill and we should be looking to press their defence. Last year at times we started to see a more fluid, interchanging and interlinking front three of Martial, Lingard and Rashford- one which would benefit us greatly today.

ice-bionic red · Oct 23, 2016

Luke shaw injured?

dichinero · Oct 23, 2016

Castia said:
Really? I think we look both technically and tactically a million times better with either Carrick in CM or Mata at AM than when Fellaini starts.

I think his point is that Fellaini is effective for a stifle job more than anything. I'm not a fan of Fellaini but I can't deny that when it comes to this kind of tactic, he seems to be useful. Other than that, no need for him.

Drifter · Oct 23, 2016

ice-bionic red said:
Luke shaw injured?

Probably easing him in

Catt · Oct 23, 2016

Creepy said:
Anyone else think that Chelsea side looks incredibly average?

Yes. Bet they'll have a screamer tonight.

Needham · Oct 23, 2016

dichinero said:
I think his point is that Fellaini is effective for a stifle job more than anything. I'm not a fan of Fellaini but I can't deny that when it comes to this kind of tactic, he seems to be useful. Other than that, no need for him.

The way the last three Utd managers have used him, Fellaini is apparently indispensable.

JB08 · Oct 23, 2016

Creepy said:
Anyone else think that Chelsea side looks incredibly average?

Throughout the 11 it isn't great, but they have players like Hazard and Costa who can make a chance or score out of nothing.

Android1974 · Oct 23, 2016

Could it be Lingard on the left and Rashford on the right?

DomesticTadpole · Oct 23, 2016

ice-bionic red said:
Luke shaw injured?

He travelled but he is obviously more worried about Smalling's fitness. Darmian and Rojo can cover the defence, Darmian, RB, LB and CB. Rojo, no, forget about it. Shaw is just a LB.

Catt · Oct 23, 2016

Castia said:
Really? I think we look both technically and tactically a million times better with either Carrick in CM or Mata at AM than when Fellaini starts.

Agree.

Maradona10 · Oct 23, 2016

Hazard always plays well against us. Every chelsea forward weather its Drogba or kalou or even Toress plays well against us so i expect those 2 to be the danger men.

Marcelinho87 · Oct 23, 2016

Castia said:
Really? I think we look both technically and tactically a million times better with either Carrick in CM or Mata at AM than when Fellaini starts.

Whilst I agree with you and would love for Carrick to play, he is only good against teams that stand off. Which Kante and Matic won't do.

Fellaini is good when it comes to sitfling/strangling the opposition.

Mourinho is not looking to outplay these guys he is looking to choke and then hit on the counter, hence the width out wide.

Hopefully this time it works.

Kevin · Oct 23, 2016

Revan said:
Martial not starting doesn't surprise me. Rashford is playing better at the moment, and Lingard is having a very good form.

Rashford has looked all labour and zero craft in at least our last two or three games. He is there For his speedy Ji Sung Park/fletcher qualities in big games.

Horrific passing and kick n rush dribbling that is not fooling anyone now.

ash_86 · Oct 23, 2016

The way Jose has handled Rooney's dropping is amazing. Always thought the media would throw tantrums when this happened but, he has really handled it well.

stu_1992 · Oct 23, 2016

I'm happy with that team I must say. No Shaw is a surprise in the squad. But I never expected him to start.

DomesticTadpole · Oct 23, 2016

Formation hint?
United’s warm up might have given an indication as to how they’ll line up.

Follow

Samuel Luckhurst

✔@samuelluckhurst
#mufc lining up with Rashford on the right and Lingard on the left in attacking drills. Set-up suggests Pogba will play in playmaker role.

3:39 PM - 23 Oct 2016 · London, England, United Kingdom

Un4givableB · Oct 23, 2016

ice-bionic red said:
Luke shaw injured?

No,Jose not worrying about an attacking wingback in this game,playing a Roundhead not a Cavalier.

PlayerOne · Oct 23, 2016

Happy for Lingard, earned his spot. Hope he plays well and shuts some of the doubters up once more

donkeyfish · Oct 23, 2016

ice-bionic red said:
Luke shaw injured?

He didn't look great against Fenerbahce, has had a lot of small injury/fitness concerns this season. Not surprised if he don't play more than 90 pr week for a while

RedElf · Oct 23, 2016

Android1974 said:
Darmian seems to be getting more time and recognition with Mourinho. Maybe he's on the bench because the manager's afraid Valencia can't handle Hazard?

No chance Darmian will be able to cope with Hazard.

spwd · Oct 23, 2016

Damn 10/11

Marcelinho87 · Oct 23, 2016

PlayerOne said:
Happy for Lingard, earned his spot. Hope he plays well and shuts some of the doubters up once more

He could shut them up every week but rest assured the same people will whine next time he plays.

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