Champions League Group F

Atalanta 2:2 Manchester United

Gewiss Stadium

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Tue, 2 November 2021 @ 8:00pm GMT
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    So the back 5 will be

    Wan Bissaka Bailly Varane Maguire Shaw

    Or

    Wan Bissaka Varane Maguire Shaw Telles
    I think it's more likely that McTominay will be in defence, with Pogba and Fred in midfield.

    I'm guessing that purely from the fact that Ole has his favourites. He's the type of manager who will, within reason, pick a player he likes out-of-position rather than a player he doesn't in-position.

    But I'm probably going to be proven wrong!
     
    So the back 5 will be

    Wan Bissaka Bailly Varane Maguire Shaw

    Or

    Wan Bissaka Varane Maguire Shaw Telles

    Hopefully the latter if he does go for the back 5 again, having Shaw and Telles can create a nice overload down the left
     
    I would like to see:

    AWB - Maguire - Varane - Telles

    -----DVB----Matic------Pogba

    ----Sancho---Greenwood-----Rashford

    Bit of rotation ahead of City but a strong team with pace to counterattack. But think Ole will play it safe again. God only knows how players like Sancho will get a game.
     
    I think it's more likely that McTominay will be in defence, with Pogba and Fred in midfield.

    I'm guessing that purely from the fact that Ole has his favourites. He's the type of manager who will, within reason, pick a player he likes out-of-position rather than a player he doesn't in-position.

    But I'm probably going to be proven wrong!

    That is surely a slap in the face to Bailly and Telles.
     
    That is surely a slap in the face to Bailly and Telles.
    Both have been slapped multiple times already. Bailly was left on the bench for a 20% fit Maguire only a few weeks ago. And, of course, VDB has his own story to tell.

    Like I said, Ole tends to pick the players he trusts over the ones he doesn't; even if that means playing some of them slightly out of position.
     
    Both have been slapped multiple times already. Bailly was left on the bench for a 20% fit Maguire only a few weeks ago. And, of course, VDB has his own story to tell.

    Like I said, Ole tends to pick the players he trusts over the ones he doesn't; even if that means playing some of them slightly out of position.
    Nah Bailly will play, he will want Scott in midfield.

    Not sure why everybody is clamouring for more VDB to be honest but there we go.
     
    I'd only go with a back 3 to give Harry a game off that he clearly needs, judging by his unfitness over the last month (and didn't look all that sharp v Spurs to be honest) and with City coming up this weekend. If a back 3 is necessary and with Lindelof out, then this:

    De Gea
    Bailly Varane Shaw
    AWB fecking McFred Telles
    Bruno
    Cavani Rashford

    But I'd rather we go with this:

    De Gea
    AWB Bailly Varane Shaw
    Matic Donny
    Sancho Bruno Rashford
    Cavani

    Yes, a CL match but we've got City coming up and Ronaldo should not be starting three matches in 7 days. McFred will no doubt get the start v City so we'll need them fresh for the substantially more imposing opposition.

    But since Ole starts Maguire no matter what his fitness level is it's more likely going to be this:

    De Gea
    Bailly Varane Maguire
    AWB McFred Shaw
    Bruno
    Ronaldo Rashford
     
    That is surely a slap in the face to Bailly and Telles.
    Both have been slapped multiple times already. Bailly was left on the bench for a 20% fit Maguire only a few weeks ago. And, of course, VDB has his own story to tell.

    Like I said, Ole tends to pick the players he trusts over the ones he doesn't; even if that means playing some of them slightly out of position.
    I wouldn’t be surprised either. Especially not Bailly — all the reports seem to suggest he was questioning Ole the most so if the player isn’t on Ole’s side I highly doubt he’ll start him in a CL game
     
    Tongue in cheek. But actually though, if Ole is staying all season... what gives us a better chance at both a trophy this season and CL football next season? That's our current sad reality.

    Understood. And certainly agree with the point about the sad reality.
     
    Atalanta (and Bergamo) are considering this game their match of the season, their first, real, big CL game in Bergamo since the pandemic with their fans, and pretty vital for their hopes to pass the group.

    I think this forum was too downbeat two weeks ago, when most of you lot were anticipating a Utd loss, and similarly I think most of you are too upbeat this time, anticipating an easy Utd win.
     
    Atalanta (and Bergamo) are considering this game their match of the season, their first, real, big CL game in Bergamo since the pandemic with their fans, and pretty vital for their hopes to pass the group.

    I think this forum was too downbeat two weeks ago, when most of you lot were anticipating a Utd loss, and similarly I think most of you are too upbeat this time, anticipating an easy Utd win.
    We should now better by now after Basaksehir and Young Boys.
     
    It'll be this. Ole in survival mode.

    De Gea
    Bailly Varane Maguire
    AWB McFred Shaw
    Bruno
    Ronaldo Rashford

    Thinking 532 will be the way forward. Likely most fans will eventually disagree but frankly if it keeps Antonio Conte from being our coach... i'm fine with it. I've hated watching his sides play football as badly as I hated Mourinho's.
     
    It'll be this. Ole in survival mode.

    De Gea
    Bailly Varane Maguire
    AWB McFred Shaw
    Bruno
    Ronaldo Rashford

    Thinking 532 will be the way forward. Likely most fans will eventually disagree but frankly if it keeps Antonio Conte from being our coach... i'm fine with it. I've hated watching his sides play football as badly as I hated Mourinho's.


    Be ready for the backlash from Conte Fanboi's!!
     
    De Gea
    Lindelof Varane Maguire
    AWB Donny Fred Shaw
    Pogba
    Ronaldo Rashford
     
    Lindelof injured tomorrow means Bailly will come in. Expect to see the same team that played versus Spurs with Bailly and Rashford coming in. Lindelof and Cavani dropping out
     
    ---De Gea
    Wan Bissaka---Varane---Maguire---Shaw---Telles-------
    ------
    Pogba---McTominay
    Bruno
    Rashford---Ronaldo
     
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DDG - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    - - - - - - -Lindelof- - - - Maguire - - - - - - - Varane - - - - - - - - -
    AWB - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Shaw
    - - - - - - - - - - - - Pogba - - - - - - - - Matic - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lingard - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    - - - - - - - - - - - - Ronaldo - - - - - - - - Rashford
     
    Lindelof injured tomorrow means Bailly will come in. Expect to see the same team that played versus Spurs with Bailly and Rashford coming in. Lindelof and Cavani dropping out
    Probably not. I can see Ole playing Shaw in the back 3 & Telles as wingback.
    Bailly isn’t part of his inner circle.
     
    It'll be this. Ole in survival mode.

    De Gea
    Bailly Varane Maguire
    AWB McFred Shaw
    Bruno
    Ronaldo Rashford

    Thinking 532 will be the way forward. Likely most fans will eventually disagree but frankly if it keeps Antonio Conte from being our coach... i'm fine with it. I've hated watching his sides play football as badly as I hated Mourinho's.

    Well you got your wish because he's now gone to Spurs, think we get the job done tonight but think Saturday will be a reality check. People will realise just how rock bottom Spurs were when City come to OT
     
    Atalanta (and Bergamo) are considering this game their match of the season, their first, real, big CL game in Bergamo since the pandemic with their fans, and pretty vital for their hopes to pass the group.

    I think this forum was too downbeat two weeks ago, when most of you lot were anticipating a Utd loss, and similarly I think most of you are too upbeat this time, anticipating an easy Utd win.
    I don't think that's the case at all. I for one wouldn't be surprised if we lost this.
     
    I was very confident we would beat Spurs, and we did, I have the same feeling for this, I think we’ll smash them (not that the performances make me feel that way), I just have a feeling we’ll win comfortably.
     
    I was very confident we would beat Spurs, and we did, I have the same feeling for this, I think we’ll smash them (not that the performances make me feel that way), I just have a feeling we’ll win comfortably.

    Wish people would realise we only beat them because they are probably the easiest fixture we could have had other than maybe Norwich, will definitely be getting a xmas card from them for getting Nuno sacked
     
    Looking at how they play and defend at OT in the second half, we'll probably score a few if they play like this again. Demiral is back for them though so he'll likely make them better in defence
     
    Not sure this requires a back 3. I’d be inclined to rest some players from the spurs game with a view of going back to a 3-5-2 vs City.

    DDG

    AWB
    Varane
    Maguire
    Shaw

    Fred
    Matic

    Sancho
    Bruno
    Rashford

    Ronaldo
     
    ———————DdG————————-

    ——Lindelof—Varane—Maguire—
    AWB———Mctominay———-Shaw
    ————Bruno———Pogba————

    ————Ronaldo—Rashford———

    Subs - Sancho, VDB, Fred, Greenwood, Cavani.

    1-3
     
    Not sure this requires a back 3. I’d be inclined to rest some players from the spurs game with a view of going back to a 3-5-2 vs City.

    DDG

    AWB
    Varane
    Maguire
    Shaw

    Fred
    Matic

    Sancho
    Bruno
    Rashford

    Ronaldo
    So all of a sudden we go back to a formation that has made us vulnerable this season? I don't trust Ole with a 4-2-3-1 so the back 3 must remain. Just play Rashford and stretch the hell out that Atalanta backline. They attack nonstop at home and will leave huge gaps at the back.
     
    Those saying we don't need a Back 5 getting way ahead of themselves. They never learn.
     
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Man of the Match

Cristiano Ronaldo image Cristiano Ronaldo 69% of 391 votes

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Score Predictions

149,47,56
  • Man Utd win
  • Atalanta win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 25% Atalanta 1:2 Man Utd
  • 15% Atalanta 0:2 Man Utd
  • 13% Atalanta 1:1 Man Utd
  • 8% Atalanta 2:1 Man Utd
  • 8% Atalanta 2:2 Man Utd
  • 6% Atalanta 1:3 Man Utd
  • 5% Atalanta 0:3 Man Utd
  • 3% Atalanta 0:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Atalanta 3:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Atalanta 2:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Atalanta 0:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Atalanta 5:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Atalanta 1:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Atalanta 4:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Atalanta 2:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Atalanta 0:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Atalanta 2:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Atalanta 3:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Atalanta 4:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Atalanta 5:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Atalanta 3:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Atalanta 0:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Atalanta 1:0 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Atalanta
  2. Man Utd
Possession
47% 53%
Shots
10 13
Shots on Target
4 4
Corners
5 1
Fouls
11 14

Referee

Slavko Vincic