New Stadium | 100k Stadium to be built

[Blood Mage]

Oh yeah where's the money coming from? Save it for investment in our god awful team.

 

[shabin_d_great]

So it will be called "New Trafford" ?

 

[DarkLord1984]

Now we'll be able to have 100,000 people come and watch us play like shite. Awesome

 

[sleepehead]

There's maybe a good reason for this, why do most (all?) new stadiums in this country not have retractable roofs?

Considering how much it rains, I'm surprised this hasn't become the norm

 

[sparx99]

So it will be called "New Trafford" ?

£500m over 10 years to call it what you like.

 

[DuruttiColumn]

Oh yeah where's the money coming from? Save it for investment in our god awful team.

It will make money in the long term

 

[Gearbox Paddy]

Who else is looking forward to some best in class renders of what will never be built

Just a typical Glazer excercise in kicking the can down the road, string the fans along for another few years while the cow is milked

How are we finding billions to pay for a stadium if we’re broke??

 

[tyunited]

So it will be called "New Trafford" ?

Theatre in your dreams more like

 

[KStandBarmyArmy1993]

I agree. Once OT is gone it's gone forever, and we'll no longer have a football ground but a multi-purpose arena. Ticket prices will balloon. I hope people enjoy their enhanced legroom.

The final, final nail in the coffin for our fan culture.

It will be a corporate and tourist dream but will further outprice the local lads and lasses.

 

[Xeque_279]

The final, final nail in the coffin for our fan culture.

It will be a corporate and tourist dream but will further outprice the local lads and lasses.

A new stadium is required though isn't it? Need to increase the capacity and better the facilities.

 

[Berbasbullet]

So it will be called "New Trafford" ?

No.

 

[Steve 007]

Who else is looking forward to some best in class renders of what will never be built

Just a typical Glazer excercise in kicking the can down the road, string the fans along for another few years while the cow is milked

How are we finding billions to pay for a stadium if we’re broke??

We are not ‘broke’ we are FFP broke. New stadium is considered infrastructure and not part of FFP. If we were ‘broke’ would britains richest man invest £1.3 billion?

 

[Berbasbullet]

We are not ‘broke’ we are FFP broke. New stadium is considered infrastructure and not part of FFP. If we were ‘broke’ would britains richest man invest £1.3 billion?

I mean, according to that man himself we were due to run out of cash this year.

I’m sure there are creative ways to pay for the stadium, but it is a fair question of how its done.

 

[KStandBarmyArmy1993]

A new stadium is required though isn't it? Need to increase the capacity and better the facilities.

I don't know, is it?

73,800 is big enough for now. Tickets go on general sale for some games (especially midweek league games) and members can pick one up for pretty much any home game a couple of days before. There's apparently a waiting list but people can get a season ticket after a few months.

A new ground will cost us loads. That cost will be passed onto the fans.

Forgive me for not really caring about facilities when I'll be out priced from the club I love.

 

[Xeque_279]

I don't know, is it?

73,800 is big enough for now. Tickets go on general sale for some games (especially midweek league games) and members can pick one up for pretty much any home game a couple of days before. There's apparently a waiting list but people can get a season ticket after a few months.

A new ground will cost us loads. That cost will be passed onto the fans.

Forgive me for not really caring about facilities when I'll be out priced from the club I love.

Fair enough, I get your point. Unfortunately that's where football is heading. Either you do that or you get left behind.

 

[Mullet_Man]

New stadium is the correct call.

Don't ask me how will be able to afford having 3 billion in debt

From the interview am sure he said United will pay for the stadium but the government need to pay for the regeneration of the area, he said there's no point in doing it if the whole area doesn't get regenerated as part of the project. Said something like it can't be a few houses and shopping centre, needs to be a massive rebuild.

So let's see if the government back all this as it won't happen without it

 

[groovyalbert]

I don't know, is it?

73,800 is big enough for now. Tickets go on general sale for some games (especially midweek league games) and members can pick one up for pretty much any home game a couple of days before. There's apparently a waiting list but people can get a season ticket after a few months.

A new ground will cost us loads. That cost will be passed onto the fans.

Forgive me for not really caring about facilities when I'll be out priced from the club I love.

I imagine a big chunk of the extra seats added will be sold as corporate packages. It will be interesting to see the breakdown of how many of the added ~25,000 actually make it to regular punters.

 

[Strats]

Just keep the stand close to the pitch and I’m happy.

Have whinged about it before but I’d hate it if it’s miles to the pitch like at emirates.

 

[stevoc]

There's maybe a good reason for this, why do most (all?) new stadiums in this country not have retractable roofs?

Because games on a rainy Tuesday night can be fun.

 

[stevoc]

We’ll get £500m for that I reckon. But people will still call it Old Trafford

Would people really call a new stadium that isn't and has never been named Old Trafford, Old Trafford?

 

[IRELANDUNITED]

This is going to absolutely boil the piss of the ABU’s; you love to see it.

 

[KStandBarmyArmy1993]

Fair enough, I get your point. Unfortunately that's where football is heading. Either you do that or you get left behind.

I always see the "left behind" argument but left behind from what exactly?

The club already makes an insane amount of money. Its just been invested terribly since 2013.

A bigger ground meaning more seats could give the club a defining opportunity to keep prices at an "affordable" level. Actually, give something back to the fans that have turned up every week without fail. Truly putting the Manchester back into Manchester United. They won't though. It gives them an opportunity for one more massive price hike.

I imagine a big chunk of the extra seats added will be sold as corporate packages. It will be interesting to see the breakdown of how many of the added ~25,000 actually make it to regular punters.

That's obviously where it's going.

 

[KStandBarmyArmy1993]

This is going to absolutely boil the piss of the ABU’s; you love to see it.

The future of football is United fans and ABU's arguing on social media whilst all in different pubs across the country because none of us can afford to go anymore.

 

[Real Name]

Oh yeah where's the money coming from? Save it for investment in our god awful team.

We can have both but then you couldnt have your good moan.

 

[Insanity]

Who else is looking forward to some best in class renders of what will never be built

Just a typical Glazer excercise in kicking the can down the road, string the fans along for another few years while the cow is milked

How are we finding billions to pay for a stadium if we’re broke??

That's what I wanted to Gary to ask him. Jim said that he would need taxpayer money to build the whole area but we can do it ourselves if it is only the stadium. Where is that money going to come from? Will the Glazers or Jim divest some equity for the new stadium? Or are they planning to raise more debt?

But I guess, good'ol Nev wanted to end it on a positive note and didn't want real questions to get in the way of that.

 

[laughtersassassin]

Selling the naming rights for Old Trafford would have been unacceptable to me, but if they're replacing Old Trafford with a brand new stadium then I don't really give a shit what that new stadium is called.

I'd still call it old Trafford but throw another name in front of it for the cash since it's a new stadium

 

[romufc]

I mean, according to that man himself we were due to run out of cash this year.

I’m sure there are creative ways to pay for the stadium, but it is a fair question of how its done.

You know there is a massive difference between running out of cash and being broke?

 

[romufc]

That's what I wanted to Gary to ask him. Jim said that he would need taxpayer money to build the whole area but we can do it ourselves if it is only the stadium. Where is that money going to come from? Will the Glazers or Jim divest some equity for the new stadium? Or are they planning to raise more debt?

But I guess, good'ol Nev wanted to end it on a positive note and didn't want real questions to get in the way of that.

Are you expecting Manutd and SJR to fund a whole area regeneration?

They obviously know how much a new stadium will cost and wont be spending time and money on mock ups that they know are not deliverable.

 

[diarm]

Say the stadium costs £2bn - I can see a situation whereby half of that is provided by a naming sponsor for a silly length of time and other half is invested by Jim or Ineos in exchange for more shares.

If £300m got him a 4% increase, another billion would take him up to around 42/43%.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

Nothing on the athletic about this. The main account that posted this has some gambling site that you read their article through.

United are expected to announce their decision on Tuesday. Sources, speaking anonymously in order to protect relationships, have told The Athletic the club has chosen to pursue a new-build, 100,000-seater stadium rather than redevelop the existing Old Trafford.

 

[diarm]

You know there is a massive difference between running out of cash and being broke?

You sound like my wife.

 

[Dan_F]

Say the stadium costs £2bn - I can see a situation whereby half of that is provided by a naming sponsor for a silly length of time and other half is invested by Jim or Ineos in exchange for more shares.

If £300m got him a 4% increase, another billion would take him up to around 42/43%.

The Glazers won’t give away that much for nothing. A new stadium should make the club far more valuable down the line, but the only way that makes sense is if the Glazers are here for the long term and reap the benefits of the new stadium in return for that 15%.

I expect we will hear more updates about the financing on Thursday. People are being a bit dramatic and acting like they won’t have figured out a plan to finance it.

 

[romufc]

People are being a bit dramatic and acting like they won’t have figured out a plan to finance it.

There is no way the club get architects to draw up models and then release it to the public without having an idea of how much it will cost and how to finance it. His comments said, we can finance a stadium.

 

[DuruttiColumn]

Can

A new stadium is required though isn't it? Need to increase the capacity and better the facilities.Cany

Cant increase capacity at the current site

 

[Sassy Colin]

Nothing on the athletic about this. The main account that posted this has some gambling site that you read their article through.

Sometimes they just read RedCafe and post tweets which people want to hear, rather than actual, you know, facts.

 

[Herman Toothrot]

I don't know, is it?

73,800 is big enough for now. Tickets go on general sale for some games (especially midweek league games) and members can pick one up for pretty much any home game a couple of days before. There's apparently a waiting list but people can get a season ticket after a few months.

A new ground will cost us loads. That cost will be passed onto the fans.

Forgive me for not really caring about facilities when I'll be out priced from the club I love.

I think you’re seriously underestimating how slowly the season ticket waiting list moves. I’ve been a member for years and you can never get tickets for big games. I’ve paid thousands of pounds to see the games season ticket holders couldn’t be bothered to show up for. I live 2 miles from the ground, and I’ll never get in to see games against City or Liverpool because thousands of people from down south will always turn up for these games. They’ll sit on their season tickets like dragons until they die. The ground is full of old people with season tickets and tourists willing to stump up hundreds to see a single match. The club are not coming to those of us who have paid premium membership for the last couple of seasons and offering us season tickets because tourists are worth more than locals


A new stadium will greatly increase the income of the club in the long-term. It will more than pay for itself and making more room for local fans and those willing to pay a premium for an ‘experience’. The potential for United to secure their place at the very top indefinitely will be unlocked by a new ground. It has to happen.

 

[Berbasbullet]

You know there is a massive difference between running out of cash and being broke?

When you run out of cash are you:

A) in a strong financial position
B) in a bad financial position

We aren’t broke yet, but the situation is obviously terrible and not just ‘FFP broke’.

 

[romufc]

When you run out of cash are you:

A) in a strong financial position
B) in a bad financial position

We aren’t broke yet, but the situation is obviously terrible and not just ‘FFP broke’.

We are in a bad financial position, we know this, which is why they have taken steps to make sure it doesn't get worse.

 

[horsechoker]

Neville on BBC has just said it'll be 100,000

 

[Tom Van Persie]

Sometimes they just read RedCafe and post tweets which people want to hear, rather than actual, you know, facts.

I posted the quote from the article above.