Yeah that's a very valid point
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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This is what happens when you reward mediocrity, the man is delusional and sees no fault of his in this disaster. Probably feels vindicated and won't concede a thing. These amateurs have shown that they fear fan perception so much and he is going to go for broke and run rings around them and before we know it we'd have spent a billion for a few Cups.
If he is reluctant to cede transfer control then its a legitimate reason to sack him as we aren't aligned.
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There is no manager, on any level, who would accept that kind of stuff. Especially the guy who doesn't even want to accept that "Veto" thing. This is huge BS.
And if there is will you come back and tell us all that you told us so?
You do realise there is only certain journos that can be trusted and these two aren't on that list
The mythical manager doesn’t exist.
These guys we’re discussing, and I include Ten Hag, will carousel around the tops clubs and have ups and downs. In another world, we sack Ten Hag in April, he takes the Bayern job and wins a Bundesliga in the next twelve months. Tuchel may well have come here and had a good spell, probably followed by a bad one.
Ultimately, I think INEOS have looked at the options and, in the absence of clarity, have decided to follow the path of it’s the better the devil you know. All quite undignified, mind you.
I think what they do to overhaul the playing squad over the next year is going to have a far greater impact on our fortunes than the manager they choose.
Sensible take, pretty much how I look at it as well.
We can't have another season like last, I hope he's been told that in no uncertain terms.
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That article definitely makes me wonder what caused negotiations to end with Tuchel and De Zerbi
Hah. Weren’t the same rumours that Brailsford was the one who was most keen on Southgate? It’s all just jumbled up nonsense
Was this confirmed by anyone?
Silva is the most surprising one on the list
Silva and Thomas Frank. Blimey. When you put your CV in for the “10+ years experience only” but somehow get through to interview stage
Chelsea had an even more injury riddled campaign
Since Fergie left the power has been in the players hand. Keeping Ten Hag shows the players such as Sancho can’t behave the way they have been. No player is bigger than the club
I said many times; Liverpool had best approach (during Edwards era). Manager says position which he needs (and traits for that position), DoF and his staff find couple of players and manager can choose between them.
Only in Italy in 90s (when rich owners played live FM) there was a setup when owner would buy a player on his own (without asking manager anything).
It is perfectly logical that manager must approve signing. He will play him, train him and be with him every day.
Since Fergie left the power has been in the players hand. Keeping Ten Hag shows the players such as Sancho can’t behave the way
The narrative being pushed that the decision was made based solely on the FA cup is bs. He did a great job in his first year in charge, getting top 4, and a cup. This year has been shit, but anyone analyzing it needs to take account for the injuries that put people like Lindelof in LB and Casameiro in CB positions. Not to mention Rashy's form and Casa's form falling off a cliff. The culmination of those things clearly cost us. ETH defo had his role to play in the terrible results but it's not all on him. I think this 3rd year will make it more clear whether he's good enough or not, assuming we get some cover in the CB and LB positions.
Well, there you go. I had my doubts but I'll get behind him next season.
I hope, with a better management team in the room offering higher quality support and challenge,, and a more clearly defined coaching role, some smart signings, fewer injuries and more stability, we should do better,
I hope, with a better management team in the room offering higher quality support and challenge,, and a more clearly defined coaching role, some smart signings, fewer injuries and more stability, we should do better,
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Was some serious guess work by theAthletic journalists with weeks of such speculation where they had Ten Hag sacked already and various managers lined up .
feck Steinberg. Do you support the club or the media?
He really wasn't.
But more than twice as many suitable replacements to cope
Right, it's about the drop off innit?
Roberto Martinez FFS. He might even have made Southgate look a competent appointment.
You can check my post history, I've been wanting him gone for a while.
But that's a terrible comparison. You know, considering the amount they've spent recently, the squad they have and the fact that we had a better season than them anyway...
There are actually more than that’s it just the loses have come in bigger score lines that we colour the issue. I was of course being glib and even though we had a horrible season we still had some good performances in his tenure.
Even when we play well some folk will see it as lucky as the other team didn’t turn up. This will be true sometimes but is the understanding applied both ways? Doesn’t matter now though really, decisions made.
I'd guess that De Zerbi wanted more overall control of matters than we would allow. Don't know about Tuchs.
Now it's over to the club to create conditions that will help him turn things around. Better coaches and an overhauled midfield would be a start. If anyone thinks we're just magically going to become better without these things...
Probably didn't like Ineos and Ineos didn't like their "we take no shit from stupid owners" personalities.
£20m down the pisser.
I don't want to back a manager that gave us the worst league performance in 35 years and our worst Champions League performance in 10.
So you will only support the team and manager during good times and not the tough ones. got it.
No, I support the club not the manager. And managers like ETH are part of the reason we even HAVE bad times. It's not just players or the board.
Perfectly rational response.
So it shouldn't matter who the manager is?
If you support the club but dont wont back the manager, what will you do next season, hope we lose so he gets sacked?
Why should I "back the manger" when that manager is awful and dragged the team down with his awful tactics and wasted millions of our money on bad players to the extent we now have a paltry budget this season and have to sell to buy?
I will continue to support the club, but no manager deserves blind faith and support. You don't give it to the players - you're more than willing to throw them under the bus - then you shouldn't to anyone else.
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