Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager

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It's worth flagging he did not write this tweet. He probably addressed the situation as part of his normal agenda of youtube videos and just said no update, wel find out in the next hours or days.

It's not tweet worthy for him, there's no update. But an aggregator has tweeted it.
People who lose their mind to every tweet they read would do well to read this, many times, and contemplate what it might imply for other tweets
 

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Does anybody think that sacking ETH and bringing in Southgate is anything but utterly stupid and a disaster? Surely things can't have gone this badly wrong?
 

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Surely,he must have known by now if he's staying or not, the fact that oz has not been made official doesnt mean that he doesnt know.
He has himself to blame, he stubbornly stuck with a System that left us more open than the Sahara desert, he and his Supports may blame injury all the like, but the adjustment against Arsenal at old trafford and the F.A showed that it was not a Personnel problem, but a 'structural 'problem
 

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Maybe I will tweet “United May or may not decide today on whether to sack or retain ETH” and copy it here as I will eventually be right. Seems to be all you need to do for people to follow you.

It’s bad form what’s going on here. I have patience on this but it’s hard to not see this as more a reflection of how INEOs really isn’t ready to meet the challange then anything else.

I expect mistakes , delays and for setbacks , but this looks like a very poor start so far.
 

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Does anybody think that sacking ETH and bringing in Southgate is anything but utterly stupid and a disaster? Surely things can't have gone this badly wrong?
It would be such a bad decision that I don't think INEOS would actually recover from it (from the fans point of view). Someone should lose their job over a hiring like that.
 

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Darren Fletcher wasn't Tech. Director?
That was the job title but it didn’t match with the job he actually does. His work primarily was providing support to kids making the jump to first team, Mainoo etc.
the fact people are confused by the title is exactly why SJR and his team will rebrand his title
 

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We all will and that's what makes you wonder what's going on upstairs.

You can't finish 8th at Man Utd and expect to keep your job. However, just imagine we start the season with Southgate and get smashed in the Community Shield: Ten Hag's last game at United will have been winning at Wembley against Pep, Southgate's first will be getting demolished at Wembley by Pep. The contrast will be clear to everyone and the fans, who never wanted Southgate in the first place, will go absolutely ballistic.

After that Gareth will be onto a hiding. Unless we go on the kind of run we did when Ole first came in, all of us will just be waiting for him to fail. Its what we expect and at the first sign of trouble that confirmation bias will spread around Old Trafford like a pandemic. Don't tell me the players won't be affected. Seeing the club turn down Champions League and title winning coaches to go for Gareth Southgate only to see it all go to s-t.

Sacking Ten Hag for Southgate is setting us up for a horrible season.
Hard to tell what is worse, keeping ETH after this season or bringing Southgate...yea it's bringing Southgate.
Considering the silence up to this point the above 2 options are the only realistic ones, unfortunately for our future...
 

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I think Southgate is probably just a fall back plan in case ETH doesn't agree to a new contract, refuses to accept their terms (there may be some haggling over the extent of transfers control in his remit). Eventually we will get ETH to agree to a 3-4 year extension and Southgate links will disappear.
 

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There is literally zero chance Southgate is going to be the manager, he's feckin preparing for a major tournament with a national team at the minute :lol:

Not a hope they are willing to go into a season that underprepared.
 

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It would be such a bad decision that I don't think INEOS would actually recover from it (from the fans point of view). Someone should lose their job over a hiring like that.
Makes you think it can't be real. And yet...
 

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I think Southgate is probably just a fall back plan in case ETH doesn't agree to a new contract, refuses to accept their terms (there may be some haggling over the extent of transfers control in his remit). Eventually we will get ETH to agree to a 3-4 year extension and Southgate links will disappear.

Southgate shouldn't be a fall back for anything.
 

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There is literally zero chance Southgate is going to be the manager, he's feckin preparing for a major tournament with a national team at the minute :lol:

Not a hope they are willing to go into a season that underprepared.
Real Madrid were ready to do it with Lopetegui, so you never know.
 

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That was the job title but it didn’t match with the job he actually does. His work primarily was providing support to kids making the jump to first team, Mainoo etc.
the fact people are confused by the title is exactly why SJR and his team will rebrand his title
Yeah I couldn't care less. It was the point I was making.
 

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I think Southgate is probably just a fall back plan in case ETH doesn't agree to a new contract, refuses to accept their terms (there may be some haggling over the extent of transfers control in his remit). Eventually we will get ETH to agree to a 3-4 year extension and Southgate links will disappear.
A fall back plan for something he doesn't need to agree too? The club can trigger his additional year if needed to buy time. If this is their thinking process we best get ready for Glazers 2.0
 

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You were correct in your point with murtough, just not with Fletcher. No biggie
Just crossed wires. I know the point you're making, but I wasn't necessarily talking literally. Just someone that high up would be in charge hiring a head of department, not EtH.
 

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ETH has returned from holiday so somethings going to happen this week.
 

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I think Southgate is probably just a fall back plan in case ETH doesn't agree to a new contract, refuses to accept their terms (there may be some haggling over the extent of transfers control in his remit). Eventually we will get ETH to agree to a 3-4 year extension and Southgate links will disappear.
Bloody hell, this is getting old.
 

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A fall back plan for something he doesn't need to agree too? The club can trigger his additional year if needed to buy time. If this is their thinking process we best get ready for Glazers 2.0
Didn't realize he had an optional year in there. Thought it was just another year.
 

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There is literally zero chance Southgate is going to be the manager, he's feckin preparing for a major tournament with a national team at the minute :lol:

Not a hope they are willing to go into a season that underprepared.
Didn’t we hire LvG when he was at an international tournament?
 

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Bloody hell, this is getting old.
I've been expecting ETH to stay when everyone thought his job was at risk with many certain he would go.

Barring the unexpected, he will be staying.
 

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I think Southgate is probably just a fall back plan in case ETH doesn't agree to a new contract, refuses to accept their terms (there may be some haggling over the extent of transfers control in his remit). Eventually we will get ETH to agree to a 3-4 year extension and Southgate links will disappear.
At this point I dont know if you're parodying TenHagEra or he's using your posts as his source.
 

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I think Southgate is probably just a fall back plan in case ETH doesn't agree to a new contract, refuses to accept their terms (there may be some haggling over the extent of transfers control in his remit). Eventually we will get ETH to agree to a 3-4 year extension and Southgate links will disappear.
The wouldnt be speaking to other managers if they were offering Erik a new contract
 

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Its getting more bizarre by the day. If they were going to sack him, they should've done it immediately. Likewise if they were going to retain him. The so called "review" we keep hearing about could've been conducted in the final two weeks of the season, not during a time when action should be taken. My only guess here is that Tuchel didn't work out, so now SJR is left to decide between De Zerbi and retaining ETH.
 

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The wouldnt be speaking to other managers if they were offering Erik a new contract
They wouldn't be doing it this publicly that's for sure. It's possible that there is a ETH-out faction in INEOS that is leaking to undermine him but it seems very unlikely unless Ratcliffe approved. They are super disciplined with their public messaging. So he's getting canned as soon as they find a replacement who buys into their project.

That might not be so easy given they are not going to have much transfer money for a long while and will still be expected to make top four with a Frankenstein squad while evolving it into something coherent. This while City, Liverpool and Arsenal are clearly much better. It's pretty much a poison chalice job.
 

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Its getting more bizarre by the day. If they were going to sack him, they should've done it immediately. Likewise if they were going to retain him. The so called "review" we keep hearing about could've been conducted in the final two weeks of the season, not during a time when action should be taken. My only guess here is that Tuchel didn't work out, so now SJR is left to decide between De Zerbi and retaining ETH.
That seems plausible. What definitely seems clear now, is is that if ETH stays, it won't be because that was the owners' preferred choice.
 

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The wouldnt be speaking to other managers if they were offering Erik a new contract
It's fine to see what your options are. End of the day ETH is our best choice, and if this is the conclusion it feels natural to reward him with a new deal.
 

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I don't see how he stays after all this. I really hope INEOS have a suitable successor lined up.
To the contrary, I don't see how he can go. We've already left it very late, and with each passing day it would be more and more ridiculous to dismiss him. Who waits week after season concludes before parting with their manager?
 

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Its getting more bizarre by the day. If they were going to sack him, they should've done it immediately. Likewise if they were going to retain him. The so called "review" we keep hearing about could've been conducted in the final two weeks of the season, not during a time when action should be taken. My only guess here is that Tuchel didn't work out, so now SJR is left to decide between De Zerbi and retaining ETH.
That's my guess. And I don't entirely believe the reports we got this weekend, I suspect that Tuchel was the favorite but for whatever reason things didn't pan out.

The other option could be a Sarri-Chelsea situation where the issue is with compensations either to ETH, the club of our target or both.
 
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I suspect Tuchel didnt like what Ratcliffe said to him about certain conditions or limits that'd be placed on him. And Ratcliffe probably didnt like being told plainly the way of the world by someone much more versed in football than any of his Ineos clowns.
 

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To the contrary, I don't see how he can go. We've already left it very late, and with each passing day it would be more and more ridiculous to dismiss him. Who waits week after season concludes before parting with their manager?
Managers are sacked mid season all of the time, which is arguably worse. The club will have transfers lined up, which is why INEOS brought in the likes of Berrada and Ashworth.
 

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I actually think this protracted courting of other managers over weeks is way worse than what happened to LVG.

It's a clear demonstration that Ineos would literally consider anyone with a pulse over ETH. Even two managers on the complete opposite ends of the football philosophy scale.