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And this is the sort of logic these guys are hoping Ineos listen to with the polls.The scary part is that you actually believe this.
And this is the sort of logic these guys are hoping Ineos listen to with the polls.The scary part is that you actually believe this.
The club just need to work hard at keeping every player fit and healthy first, having a stable first 11 will be more important than any new signings.A good summer for the likes of Chelsea, Newcastle, Spurs and Villa and I think we'll have our work cut out under Ten Hag. I'd have more belief if I'd seen us look effective against the different teams and tactics that we come up against throughout a season, but that's simply not been the case. And I think the glaring gaps in our setup and lack of control over games will continue, no matter who we sign.
“The plan last year was clear: we buy a striker and get a goalkeeper who is able to shape the football from behind and an extra midfielder. “That was the approach, and in theory, we would then be stronger and be able to take the next step."
Was the plan last year to take 2 years to challenge for top 4, I wonder."You can start playing towards the top four with such an eleven. That gives me hope and is also realistic in my eyes."
Why couldn't he?The scary part is that you actually believe this.
His publicist.When are these quotes even from, isn't he on holiday? Or has he taken a journalist with him?
From Cambridge dictionary:We really fell off. Some years back United fans would have collectively cringed at this sort of stuff
flexing FA cups on a player that won titles and Champions League with United, and one that's currently still an employee of the club. All this for a random bald man from Holland that had us finish 8th with an overdraft in GD![]()
Joke:
something, such as a funny story or trick, that is said or done in order to make people laugh.
Agreed but that’s why we gave him the keys to the kingdom and like most managers who have been given that role post Fergie they fail to understand the magnitude of the task.Whether or not he is a good or bad coach, the problem is not Ten Hag. The problem is an incoherent squad that can't play the same type of football from one area of the field to the next, purchased by a club with no footballing philosophy to guide them, appointing managers with huge leaps from one style to another, amid antiquated facilities. That's a recipe for failure no matter who the coach is because you end up starting over again and again. The negligence of the Glazers (who have not gone anywhere) will take years to reverse. We have barely started.
The club needs to choose a basic style of play before it appoints a new coach. And it seems to have not done that yet.
Who are "these guys"?And this is the sort of logic these guys are hoping Ineos listen to with the polls.
Jose made us play zombie football, the EL cup run was a slog.Jose won 2 pieces of silverware too and arguably the more prestigious one. The league results under him was better than ETH’s. Even then, He was rightfully sacked.
Fantastic management skills don’t translate to an 8th place finish and a persistent negative GD.
Not having a full squad to choose from is not a problem that only affects ETH
I think it was either very well briefed (even more so than now) or it was already done by this point.Can anyone remember how long it was until Van Gaal was sacked following his FA Cup triumph?
Mourinho's camp leaked it on the evening of the match - so it was done pretty rapidlyCan anyone remember how long the club waited to sack Van Gaal following his FA Cup triumph?
He knew how much budget we had and how much was being asked for each of these signings. Bullshit
It was the Monday after the final officially from what I remember, so only a couple of days later. But the press leaks were out the evening of the cup final.Can anyone remember how long the club waited to sack Van Gaal following his FA Cup triumph?
Yeah. I seem to remember it being quite quick. Surely this is an indication that ten Hag will be our manager next season. If not, the indecisiveness of INEOS, which I hoped they were bringing to the club, is something that would slightly annoy me.I think it was either very well briefed (even more so than now) or it was already done by this point
18-19 is well above par, the rest are pretty much what you expect from a team like them or slightly deviating from it. I would t say he did below expectations.18-19: Reached the semi finals.
19-20: Eliminated in the group stage of the CL and eliminated in the round of 32 of the EL by Getafe.
20-21: Eliminated in the group stage of the CL and in QF of the EL by Roma.
21-22: Topped their group and eliminated by Benfica in the round of 16.
That's underwhelming, there is basically one remarkable campaign and the rest is on par or below par(especially in the EL)
Ahh ok. Cheers.It was the Monday after the final officially from what I remember, so only a couple of days later. But the press leaks were out the evening of the cup final.
I think the news broke that evening and it happened officially on the Monday.Can anyone remember how long the club waited to sack Van Gaal following his FA Cup triumph?
Bollocks man, Ajax has a small budget compared to most CL teams and has to overperform to get anywhere in Europe. When things align they can go far, but that happens infrequently.18-19: Reached the semi finals.
19-20: Eliminated in the group stage of the CL and eliminated in the round of 32 of the EL by Getafe.
20-21: Eliminated in the group stage of the CL and in QF of the EL by Roma.
21-22: Topped their group and eliminated by Benfica in the round of 16.
That's underwhelming, there is basically one remarkable campaign and the rest is on par or below par(especially in the EL)
That’s where we are though as a team. With zero injuries it’s top 4 or thereabouts, with some injuries we have to aim lower.The goal next season is to maybe, hopefully get top 4.
That's after 400M spent and in his third season.
Wild stuff
Well played, sir.Yeah, fuming here mate. Reminds me of the 80’s when we hired that Scottish loser. We were a top 4 team in all the previous 5 seasons before he came, and he took us to 11th, 2nd, 11t, 13th and 6th in his first 5 seasons, but had a couple of lucky cup runs so some people still defended him. Madness.
It's all a bit contradictory isn't it. We beat City in one game and suddenly all the players and the manager are good again, yet when it comes to the league we're told the entire squad is shite and needs replacing, therefore we're foolish to expect any decent football or top 4. The goal posts have been in constant movement this season in an effort to excuse blatantly poor management.That’s where we are though as a team. With zero injuries it’s top 4 or thereabouts, with some injuries we have to aim lower.
Ajax do not have a small budget compared to most CL teams. They have a lower budget vs top teams from big leagues but comparable to all the mid-tier league teams like Porto, Benfica or lower tier teams from top leagues - it’s probably around the middle of all teams participating. Don’t forget there are many teams from weaker leagues that are operating at low budgets in CL as well.Bollocks man, Ajax has a small budget compared to most CL teams and has to overperform to get anywhere in Europe. When things align they can go far, but that happens infrequently.
Calling 21/22 underwhelming is nonsense: they won all six games and obliterated Dorrmund and Amorim’s Sporting.
Look where they are after Ten Hag left.
It's the mirror...Surely he wouldn’t be stupid enough to come out with this while his job is under review?
Red rag to a bull stuff…
United were paying 60 to 80m for players. 400m doesn't buy too many players these days. Hopefully the days of overpaying are in the past now.The goal next season is to maybe, hopefully get top 4.
That's after 400M spent and in his third season.
Wild stuff
No, the players are still these fecking players letting everyone down and throwing all managers under the bus, except the young ones who haven’t had enough time to learn that part of their trade yet (just wait though and they will also become these fecking players).It's all a bit contradictory isn't it. We beat City in one game and suddenly all the players and the manager are good again, yet when it comes to the league we're told the entire squad is shite and needs replacing, therefore we're foolish to expect any decent football or top 4. The goal posts have been in constant movement this season in an effort to excuse blatantly poor management.
Yeah he was fine with club paying 95m euros for Antony even though he was his player and he knew him. Could've got 2 decent players for that money.He knew how much budget we had and how much was being asked for each of these signings. Bullshit
Name one of those smaller budget teams that won all of their six group games?Ajax do not have a small budget compared to most CL teams. They have a lower budget vs top teams from big leagues but comparable to all the mid-tier league teams like Porto, Benfica or lower tier teams from top leagues - it’s probably around the middle of all teams participating. Don’t forget there are many teams from weaker leagues that are operating at low budgets in CL as well.
Agree. He was unique and times have changed.In or out, I wish we’d stop comparing every one of our managers to Ferguson.
Five minutes after we collected the cup. We waited till he climbed back down the steps and was on terra firma.Can anyone remember how long the club waited to sack Van Gaal following his FA Cup triumph?
It was announced by the club on the Monday night after the final.Can anyone remember how long the club waited to sack Van Gaal following his FA Cup triumph?
Why would I need to do that?Name one of those smaller budget teams that won all of their six group games?
It’s the best cup win we have had since Fergie left, correct. All our previous ones came after easy runs (some ridiculously easy really).I'll give it to ten Hag - of all the trophies we won since 2013, we never had as difficult route to it as this year in the Fa Cup. Obviously Coventry in semis was easy draw though we almost fecked that up, but beating Liverpool (think they were 1st at that time) and then City in the final as best team that was on 35 unbeaten run (Rodri on 75 or something) is impressive. In 2016, 2017 and 2023 we mostly had easy/not too difficult draws.
The amount of times I've read 'he won us the cup' shows the mentality. They blame players for losses and Ten Hag apparently won us the cup. Nothing to do with the player who have shown time and time again they can play those tactics well. Ten hag won the FA Cup and the players finished 8thIt's all a bit contradictory isn't it. We beat City in one game and suddenly all the players and the manager are good again, yet when it comes to the league we're told the entire squad is shite and needs replacing, therefore we're foolish to expect any decent football or top 4. The goal posts have been in constant movement this season in an effort to excuse blatantly poor management.
Oh he's definitely gone then spouting this crap, at the minimum he's pissed because he thinks he might be sacked. Good chance he goes down the LvG route and talks shit about us once he's gone, excuses galore.
But that's underwhelming when you suggest that someone has a special ability.18-19 is well above par, the rest are pretty much what you expect from a team like them or slightly deviating from it. I would t say he did below expectations.
No Ajax has a middle of the pack budget. Around 2020 they had the 22nd or 23rd in Europe keeping in mind that a number of teams above them weren't in the CL, the likes of Everton, West Ham, Schalke, Lyon, Roma, Milan and Arsenal. As strange as it may sound Ajax are on the wealthier side of Football, of course there are teams that are significantly wealthier but it's not true at all in the EL and generally a minority in the CL.Bollocks man, Ajax has a small budget compared to most CL teams and has to overperform to get anywhere in Europe. When things align they can go far, but that happens infrequently.
Calling 21/22 underwhelming is nonsense: they won all six games and obliterated Dorrmund and Amorim’s Sporting.
Look where they are after Ten Hag left.