Easy to make these points without considering our chronic injury crisis during the season. How many centre back pairings again?
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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There was a loon in here the other week suggesting that Ferguson wasn't even that great of a manager, he only became a great manager because of United giving him time to develop into one.
Was just reading the article in Sky Sports about McKenna renewing with Ipswich, and they seemed convinced we were in for him. At the end of the article it said Ten Hag will be sacked if Ineos can find a better manager that is available. If that's the position then it's not a good look for ETH really, even if he stays.
It went on to say that, ETH thinks he's the right man and that if we don't get injuries and we can sign a CB, CM and ST then he believes we'll be better next season
No shit, Erik! I suppose you can draw some parallels between him and Pep after all.. both chequebook managers. Although at least Pep gets a high standard from his teams and improves players. We need all of this to compete for top 4.
It went on to say that, ETH thinks he's the right man and that if we don't get injuries and we can sign a CB, CM and ST then he believes we'll be better next season
No shit, Erik! I suppose you can draw some parallels between him and Pep after all.. both chequebook managers. Although at least Pep gets a high standard from his teams and improves players. We need all of this to compete for top 4.People were told once to stand by our manager. That directive was taken in without nuance and it's followed no matter what. Former legends are shat on, someone called Sheringham a prick the other day for example. Results and performance are irrelevant, Manchester United is irrelevant, standing by our manager is all that matters.We really fell off. Some years back United fans would have collectively cringed at this sort of stuff
flexing FA cups on a player that won titles and Champions League with United, and one that's currently still an employee of the club. All this for a random bald man from Holland that had us finish 8th with an overdraft in GD
Although SAF said "Stand by our new manager" not all of them no matter what.
Would pep have won the FA cup though with an half injured squad? I doubt he would have got past Liverpool. Also I think ETH probably wins the final if he had city and pep had the squad we had.Was just reading the article in Sky Sports about McKenna renewing with Ipswich, and they seemed convinced we were in for him. At the end of the article it said Ten Hag will be sacked if Ineos can find a better manager that is available. If that's the position then it's not a good look for ETH really, even if he stays.
It went on to say that, ETH thinks he's the right man and that if we don't get injuries and we can sign a CB, CM and ST then he believes we'll be better next season
Mick Phelan got it too.
I don't know. I think we'd play better football and City worse if the roles were reversed. I bet they'd not win half as much under Ten Hag. Pep is a much, much better coach. It's not even in question for me. Pep won the PL without a striker through adapting, so I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that he'd fail if he didn't have everything he needed.
And let's not forget, it wasn't a full strength Liverpool we beat. We were missing 3 starters, as were they. Even at full strength they have been below their previous levels this season.
Let's start with the Galatasarays and Copenhagens of the world first next season and see where we go from there.
Ajax under him have largely been underwhelming in European competitions.
You cant judge by what fans say. Fans are fickle, before the FA cup all polls were for ETH to get the sack, we won one game and guess what in 24 hrs all polls changed. Just remember we had our worse season finish in the last 30 years, GD-1, record number of losses and finished last in an easy CL group. Also remember that thanke to VAR that ruled that goal ''offside'' against the mighty Coventry that we played a half drunk team last Sunday !! One game cant define a horrendous season simple as that.
So no news at all means he is staying right? I mean I am sure by now all of the staff is on holidays already
It means they are making it seem like they are carefully considering the decision.
Yeah it means he is staying
They have nothing to update because no action was taken in the end
Our transition to a small club is going really well at least.We really fell off. Some years back United fans would have collectively cringed at this sort of stuff
flexing FA cups on a player that won titles and Champions League with United, and one that's currently still an employee of the club. All this for a random bald man from Holland that had us finish 8th with an overdraft in GD
I have no problem calling out ronaldo for his antics, but bigging up a manager that hasn't done a lot, to a player that helped us win so many titles doesn't sit very well with me.
I don't see how, they need to clarify things either way, and it's hardly a vote of confidence them not having it done it yet if he is staying.
I'm just waiting for the news of who is replacing him personally, not that he is staying.
So…Fergie’s 13 PL titles mean nothing according to your logic, since he did not face an “all conquering manager in Pep” during his reign.
Also going by your logic, ETH’s league cup win last season matters little because he faced “heavyweights” like burnley, Charlton and forest on the way to the final.
So you reckon he could not have done any better?
He’s not wrong and like that he mentioned Diallo as someone for the future.
They need to either extend his contract or sack him, we can't go into next season with him in his last year, that really wouldn't inspire faith.
I'm assuming the review began last Monday, so perhaps we'll hear something tomorrow?
I'm assuming the review began last Monday, so perhaps we'll hear something tomorrow?
Im sorry what's that now???
We were told the review started before the Sheffield United game on 24th April
Surely he wouldn’t be stupid enough to come out with this while his job is under review?
Red rag to a bull stuff…
To be fair the majority of the people he's blaming have already left the building.
It's just typical stuff from him, he's ducking and diving and trying to deflect blame. Not long ago he said the "conditions were perfect" working with Murtough on transfers.
He sure talks a lot doesn’t he
18-19: Reached the semi finals.
19-20: Eliminated in the group stage of the CL and eliminated in the round of 32 of the EL by Getafe.
20-21: Eliminated in the group stage of the CL and in QF of the EL by Roma.
21-22: Topped their group and eliminated by Benfica in the round of 16.
That's underwhelming, there is basically one remarkable campaign and the rest is on par or below par(especially in the EL)
When are these quotes even from, isn't he on holiday? Or has he taken a journalist with him?
Either way doubt INEOS will be very impressed, given the amount of money blown.
Starting to think ETH is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
I think its quite helpful that we get a inner look at his views on our future and where we're at currently.
Finally a sensible post. I personally don't believe it matters as much who we have coaching this team, we are in transition. Give EtH his ideal player profiles and he probably wins the league. You can say the same for a good few managers including the rumoured replacements. Getting a cohesive squad together is the only thing that will get us back to where we need to be, a backline of AWB, Maguire, Evans and Dalot isn't winning a league title.
Sounds like a man who’s telling all before the NDA kicks in.
The goal in a hypothetical 3rd would again be to make top 4 with ETH apparently.
A reset back to square 1.
A reset back to square 1.
I came to that conclusion a while ago, after some of the things he's said.
The scary part is that you actually believe this.
Well as I said - It's a joke and I'm ten Hag out actually.
A good summer for the likes of Chelsea, Newcastle, Spurs and Villa and I think we'll have our work cut out under Ten Hag. I'd have more belief if I'd seen us look effective against the different teams and tactics that we come up against throughout a season, but that's simply not been the case. And I think the glaring gaps in our setup and lack of control over games will continue, no matter who we sign.