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Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
91% ?! ….Liverpool fanbase ?
We changed tactics frequently this season in big games. The strategy has been the same: utilizing our fast wingers, playing out the back and through the press. We have played long balls in behind all season, as well as played through the middle.
No, man, MU fans. Proper ones.
Surely this is just evidencing how bad ETH has done all season? He has a squad which is capable of going toe to toe with one of the world’s best teams and his tactical incompetence has meant that we’ve looked awful against teams like Wolves, Palace etc.
He seems a nice enough guy but he’s failed with his transfers, he’s failed with his tactics and I don’t trust his ability to even judge the players he is training. I see absolutely no basis for keeping him.
I’d be very interested in seeing a list of our best 5 league performances this season. Maybe Arsenal away as the best? Chelsea at home? Struggle to get past those two.
Asked because the oppo fans I know want Ten Hag to stay
Why are you making things up?
It is not the tactics, it is performance levels. Against Palace we lost the ball constantly, that is performance. Defensively players weren’t covering for each other.
I’d say based on Mainoo’s development and players like McT, Dalot, Højlund, AWB etc he’s doing well with player development.
Consensus means everyone agrees. It's a slight slight majority on here.
The majority of those voting to keep him are rival fans who are desperate for us to keep struggling.
Yes I could have phrased that better. Outside of Redcafé there is consensus though.
Probably Dutch United fans.
10Hag just did Pep in, I’m sure Cheaty fans aren’t too excited about him staying. Neither should Pool fans be: we did them too. And Villa fans?
Mctominay and AWB haven’t developed at all
How do you explain the Athletic one (75%) or Andy Mitten's own poll with 60k votes (85%) on Twitter then? If you don't trust those, United We Stand had one which was heavily in favour too. But yeah, it's opposition fans on RedCafe that are tipping the balance.
The consensus has not moved to keep him at all. Looking at the poll, the consensus to sack him (80-20) has moved to there being no consensus, 50-50.
They do, mostly London clubs and a few Pool supporters ….Utd are the big joke to them, though they’d actually prefer Southgate at Utd
We wiped the smiles off their faces last Saturday. Just fecking enjoy it for ffs
Amongst the match going fans its very much in favour of keeping Ten Hag. Likewise in other forums like the United subreddit.
As much as I enjoy the Caf, I do feel like it tends to swing more towards the negative narrative.
I basically don't know an avid Ten Hag out fan outside of this forum. It's quite weird.
I don't think that it's about swinging towarads he negative. I'm almost sure to remember that it has been the same trend since 2013, everyone eventually joins the Caf but they are just very slow, though they call it patience unless it's everyone other than the manager.
Yeah neither do I. There was certainly more parity when it came to the likes of Moyes and to a lesser extent - late stage Solskjaer, but with Ten Hag it feels like there's a complete narrative split between the Caf and the rest of the fanbase.
Who’s not enjoying it? It doesn’t alter the fact that the entire season prior to that is a complete failure. An utter embarrassment in fact.
ETH does not deserve to remain manager after that and no bullshit from the cult of Ten Hag will convince me otherwise.
In the real world opposition fans are laughing their arses off at the prospect of ETH staying. They think he’s shit and the season stats back that claim up.
The sub reddit had a lot of fans wanting him out, maybe that's changed since the final. I also know other match going fans who want him out. But the opinions of the fans means nothing. These are the fans that wanted a structure and a proper way of going about our business, but now they want them to ignore their own conclusions and give in to fan pressure.
The same fans who wanted most of our last failed managers, and wanted to make Ole permanent when there was absolutely no need to. The same fans who were voting him out 24 hours before the final, yet now want him to stay. Fans should be ignored as they don't know what they're on about for the most part.
Tbf, Ole was massively supported outside of here, even in his later days.
Holy feck.
That anyone could watch the gaping chasm in midfield that was there for 9 months no matter who played and think there were no tactical issues last season is astonishing.
Giving the ball away? There was never any intention to keep the ball, it was press high, force turnover, hit the space behind, that was it.
They all were outside of maybe LVG? Which brings a question, what is the actual reasoning when seemingly every single living being regardless of performances get the same unconditional vote of confidence?
Football fans aren't exactly well known for analytical, rational approach to decision making.
United fans on any platform would have probably been 95% in favour of giving Ole a permanent deal after the PSG win.
It's a strange one alright.
Did I say there were no issues? I think Ten Hag asked too much from the players too soon. He was impatient to get his project going and might pay for it yet.
The rest of your post is shambolic.
They might not need to make an announcement, but the press will be briefed, if not by Ineos then by people around ETH.
This is taking longer than expected. I kinda thought they had enough time to make a decision already. And while the FA cup win made me change my mind, I'm an emotional fan at the end of the day. You'd think they had clear plans already.
I also think the RedDevils sub on Reddit is far too overly positive. It seems anyone with any kind of negative opinions gets down voted into oblivion.
I know one or two, but they are more how to say this "sport" fans, than Man utd fans if you know what I mean.
In the Netherlands, Ten Hag:
- Helped FC Twente win their only ever Eredivisie title as assistant manager to Steve McClaren.
- Led Go Ahead Eagles to their first promotion to the Eredivisie in 17 years in his first year of management.
- Achieved promotion to the Eredivisie in his first season with Utrecht.
- Secured Europa League qualification in his second season with Utrecht.
- Won the Eredivisie title with Ajax in his first season after a 5-year league drought.
-Led Ajax to the UEFA Champions League semi-finals, defeating Real Madrid 4-1 along the way.
- Won a total of 3 league titles in 4 years. Ajax have not won one since.
-Trusted and integrated youth players throughout his tenure.
He came to Man Utd and ended our 6-year trophy drought with two cups in two years.
Explain again - how is he NOT a winner?
The guy is built to achieve silverware.
I forgave him for the awful season, he delivered when it mattered the most.
Let's watch him win stuff again!
- Helped FC Twente win their only ever Eredivisie title as assistant manager to Steve McClaren.
- Led Go Ahead Eagles to their first promotion to the Eredivisie in 17 years in his first year of management.
- Achieved promotion to the Eredivisie in his first season with Utrecht.
- Secured Europa League qualification in his second season with Utrecht.
- Won the Eredivisie title with Ajax in his first season after a 5-year league drought.
-Led Ajax to the UEFA Champions League semi-finals, defeating Real Madrid 4-1 along the way.
- Won a total of 3 league titles in 4 years. Ajax have not won one since.
-Trusted and integrated youth players throughout his tenure.
He came to Man Utd and ended our 6-year trophy drought with two cups in two years.
Explain again - how is he NOT a winner?
The guy is built to achieve silverware.
I forgave him for the awful season, he delivered when it mattered the most.
Let's watch him win stuff again!
There's a lot of sentiment backing ten hag outside of this forum.
He's built to achieve tier 3 European league titles and domestic cups, certainly.
It wasnt only Man Utd fans that voted in those polls, they were open to everyone including rival fans so the results are meaningless.