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The bit you've highlighted in bold is only relevant for Garnacho's pass into the area isn't it? Maguire isn't offside for that. And there's no one the Fulham defender is getting to Garnacho from the free kick with Maguire there or not.
No, why would it only be relevant for that ?
 

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I was actually watching this during a wedding haha but it feels like Maguire to me wasn't really involved. He didn't touch it did he?
Nope. He swung his leg at a ball he'd no hope of reaching which was seemingly enough for him to be considered active and ruled out the goal.
 

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I'm convinced they want rid of it and doing all they can to make it not fit for purpose.

Before VAR, they were a clandestine cabal of cnuts who were untouchable and had to answer to no-one. They still answer to no-one but with VAR, there is scrutiny to their shit decisions and they don't like it.
Alliterative perfection
 

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No. You disagree with the rules.

Yes or no question: Did he challenge the defender for the ball?
The defender didn’t have the ball. If it was disallowed for challenging then they wouldn’t have needed the ref to look at it. That applies to a player coming from an offside position to nick the ball off the defender.
 

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There has to be something wrong with the system when my immediate reaction to any United goal at the moment is not one of sheer joy but a feeling of "Oh,yeah. What's VAR going to find this time?". Where's the fun in being a fan when you know they'll probably find something to chalk it off? In today's game, Maguire is offside and I can see why the ref thinks he's interfering with play but we all know other teams will get away with these all season. Same with the penalty against Hjolund. Just sick of every 50:50 decision going against us.
 

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I’m struggling to see why that goal was ruled out. It’s almost like VAR went through it with a tooth comb and said to the ref…do you think we could disallow it for this?

Today, the goal v Burnley disallowed for offside…then you look at the Palace goal against us and ask how:confused:
 

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:lol:who's watching the brilliant refereeing in the Newcastle Arsenal game?
Havertz could've been off with a red, instead he gets a yellow and 3 Newcastle players get yellows for complaining.
 

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The standards of officiating is at an all time low. I can't ever remember, week in week out, being worse than this.
 

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Refereeing in the PL is atrocious. VAR is a complete waste of time, operated by equal incompetents.
With or without VAR there are still bad decisions - just waste everyone's time and reduce the excitement value.

Every time there's a goal, the object is how to find any possible way to disallow it. Especially for some teams.
 

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How was Bruno not sent off for whacking someone on the head?
Apparently because it was only a deliberate forearm to the head, rather than an elbow, it’s only a yellow card. I’ll have to file that one away for next time one of our players loses it and smacks the opposition - “not an elbow so yellow card only”. Just complete incompetence.
 

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So not only did Guimares get away with the elbow, he didn’t get booked for kicking the ball at Rice either?
 

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:lol:who's watching the brilliant refereeing in the Newcastle Arsenal game?
Havertz could've been off with a red, instead he gets a yellow and 3 Newcastle players get yellows for complaining.
Thought the refereeing for that incident was great tbh. Booking was the right decision, as were the subsequent yellows that followed for all the bitching Newcastle players.
 

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Imagine if this was ManUtd player. Red Card to everyone inclusive Patrice Evra and Brian McClair just for being former ManUtd players.
 

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Thought the refereeing for that incident was great tbh. Booking was the right decision, as were the subsequent yellows that followed for all the bitching Newcastle players.
It was an off the ground flying in challenge. He should've seen red.
Then he avoids a second yellow a bit later for stopping a quick free kick.
 

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Guimares should be off. As much as VAR checks everything baffling that didn't lead to an onfield review.
 

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It was an off the ground flying in challenge. He should've seen red.
Then he avoids a second yellow a bit later for stopping a quick free kick.
He didn't stop the freekick. Guimares fired at him to try to get him sent off.
 

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It was an off the ground flying in challenge. He should've seen red.
Then he avoids a second yellow a bit later for stopping a quick free kick.
Not all off the ground challenges should be a red card. Only caught the player with his trailing foot. Correct decision.
 

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He didn't stop the freekick. Guimares fired at him to try to get him sent off.
Nah, he clearly steps in front of him. If you watch it back, I think the second ball that makes it on the field at the same time actually saves him.
 

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VAR a total shambles in Arsenal game, as per. Guimaraes avoids obvious red card. Havertz should have been sent off for second bookable offence. Now doing everything possible to disallow a legitimate Newcastle goal and taking an absolute age to do it. All the spontaneous joy sucked out of the moment. What a fecking farce.
 

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What the hell kind of fan of football wants var when there’s this kind of shit after a goal. What a farce :lol:
 

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So Garanacho playing the ball with a bit of green showing was out…but green showing here and ball is in??
 

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Doing their best to rule this one out
To be fair, there's three reviewable situations within ten seconds.

I think the goal should stand, and by the same logic that they didn't rule the ball over the line they shouldn't have ruled our goal outside the pitch because there's not enough evidence to see that the ball's clearly out. The arms in the back are inconsequential because Gabriel bends down to try to head the ball behind him and the arms aren't pushing him over.