UnitedSofa
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WhatNot sure how the Americans have got away with owning so many clubs in the league already to be honest.
WhatNot sure how the Americans have got away with owning so many clubs in the league already to be honest.
You don't have to believe it, because it's already happened. They invested massively into PSG's women team, which led them to I think 2 championship titles. They also moved to a much better stadium and training facilities.I think it's naive in the extreme to believe nearly anything the Qataris say. They might preach to be Utd fans and they'll give you this spiel about investing in the club but it's really just PR to try and win over fans. These people talk about investing in the women's team despite the fact their record of treating women is absolutely horrendous. Why would anyone believe a word they say?
Is this y’all’s uplit highlands?
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Sounds like that because of the word “fresh”! Red alert for me.Club will remain in debt.
Qatar have said they will clear the debt.Neither is Qatar if anyone actually bothers to read their statement. They are just saying they won’t borrow money in purchasing the club.
Also the confirmation absolutely ridiculous. Putting Manchester back in Manchester United . Ratcliff at this point would be a disappointment on the basis of that statement.Everything about Ratcliffe’s bid so far has warning signs of not really changing our situation much. Debt is debt, wrapping it INEOS gift paper doesn’t inspire confidence.
I think it's naive in the extreme to believe nearly anything the Qataris say. They might preach to be Utd fans and they'll give you this spiel about investing in the club but it's really just PR to try and win over fans. These people talk about investing in the women's team despite the fact their record of treating women is absolutely horrendous. Why would anyone believe a word they say?
It does except when it's a bid being tabled. Go figure.Weird I always thought “to table” something meant put it to the side and discuss it later.
Sure, it's the article linked inside this tweetCan you send the link?
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No one cared about City.
Don't be ridiculous. You didn't care, maybe. But in the real world there has been loads of ongoing coverage of their finances since day one, resulting in the stack of charges they are facing.Exactly. Why do people ask these questions?
For a possible scenario, see what happened with the tragic death of the Leicester owner.Sir Jim is quite old. I do wonder about his children and the Ineos group, what happens when Jim passes away, do we just get sold to Qatar anyway. Is there any interest or affiliation in United after Jim from his family or business? They could have zero interest in carrying United on, been born in London or Monaco I don't know, might want to back other sports/clubs or companies and sell us on in 5-10 years time?
Yeah that's a pretty shallow argument, they'll still need to pull money from the club to pay Ineos' debt. While it won't show directly in United's accounting, it'll still be there.We'll still have a debt under Radcliffe even if the borrowing is against INEOs. Just means the current debt won't be added to and will still be there
I dont think Sir Jim will do too well at that either. Hairy Mr Burns.The Qataris will be fine unless one of them is a swimwear round.
The wall street foundation is assisting Jim.
Why?The Ratcliffe bid is, for me, frankly insulting.
Debt in the billions. No commitment to the stadium, he’ll be answering to Wallstreet ( us investment ). People didn’t want US investment to buy us, this is what the Ratcliff bid is.The Ratcliffe bid is, for me, frankly insulting.
Cool?That’s what they are hoping you’d say. That’s what they are hoping we all say…
Stadium Name - Emirates stadiumThese are the guys responsible for the human rights violations in building the world cup. All is forgiven, as sportswashing is alive and well in the city of Manchester.
Its called sportswashing. Foremost they are dictators and want to keep power by establishing good relations with the west. Investment in the west is the best for this. most recently we have seen gulf states invest in sport, spending big money to get the F1 to Saudi Arabia, competing with the PGA tour by having an alternate tour where the money is better.
Sure they will hang homosexuals in their home country and whip women who leave the house with their knees showing. But they will gladly invest in women's football and allow the vessel club to promote LGBTQ rights, even if it is disingenuous.
Money goes a long way in having someone forfeit their moral conviction. Although after City and Newcastle accepted got taken over by Arabian dictatorships, its pretty much cut the grass for other premier league clubs to have their own dictator.
As for me, never will I surrender to the taliban. Arsenal & British till I die. No shit 350m for Neymar would ever cause me to forget who I am.
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The Qataris will be fine unless one of them is a swimwear round.
Get back to the Football Forum you and focus on your lot not bottling it furtherIts called sportswashing. Foremost they are dictators and want to keep power by establishing good relations with the west. Investment in the west is the best for this. most recently we have seen gulf states invest in sport, spending big money to get the F1 to Saudi Arabia, competing with the PGA tour by having an alternate tour where the money is better.
Sure they will hang homosexuals in their home country and whip women who leave the house with their knees showing. But they will gladly invest in women's football and allow the vessel club to promote LGBTQ rights, even if it is disingenuous.
Money goes a long way in having someone forfeit their moral conviction. Although after City and Newcastle accepted got taken over by Arabian dictatorships, its pretty much cut the grass for other premier league clubs to have their own dictator.
As for me, never will I surrender to the taliban. Arsenal & British till I die. No shit 350m for Neymar would ever cause me to forget who I am.
Pretty muchBecause it suits your agenda?
Hmm, that sounds like a red flag. I was assuming that Jim was going to clear the existing debt and load the debt for the purchase on INEOS. If the Glazer’s levered debt is staying, I can’t support Jim’s bid (not that it will make any difference).Sounds like that because of the word “fresh”! Red alert for me.
They’re getting their asking price. I’m team Jim but his PR game is fecking awful. Qatar guy releases a statement saying he will clear the debt, put the fans at the heart of the club, invest any profits into the community and invest significantly in infrastructure…Jim leaks to sources that he will put the Manchester back in Manchester with no ADDITIONAL debt. That’s it. Come on! Get in the fecking game ffs.Tweet
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I am very wary of the Qataris for fear of return to the days of Woodward: we are man United, we can buy anyone.