Fred Casemiro Caicedo
And you will have a complete different squad defensively
Even Maguire would look a good player
And you will have a complete different squad defensively
Even Maguire would look a good player
Casemiro | United Player
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Casemiro-----Fred
--------Eriksen--------
Looks pretty good (or replace with Bruno if you prefer)
Aye similar to the one you're giving Koulibaly and Lukaku.
Yeah he does a lot of charity work it seem's.
I think ETH didn't realise the shit attitude of a lot of our players, so initially thought if the right attitude was there, they would at least try to work with him. Now he's under no illusions. I know it's a dark time, but if we could get some transfers in, then maybe these losses will end up being for the best. Let's see what happens.
Same.
I reckon its probably due to age. Hopefully he will have an immediate positive impact like Van Persie did, because realistically you have to think you will only get a short period of him at his current level. Plus, we've also had some older signings who have failed (although for differing reasons) in Schweinsteiger and Sanchez, and others who did OK but not great in Zlatan, Matic, Ronaldo, arguably Falcao although younger/injury related. Plus a few existing players we kept too long despite their decline with age like Mata, Rooney, Young.
Reeks of short term desperation, and the risk is they'll be content with a massive contract for a few years and mentally zone out whilst eyeing up retirement. But, might just be the kind of short term injection of quality we need. Risky though.
I wonder if there is any plan or consideration to how to utilise him if or when he does start to decline. As in, do the management think in a couple years time he could play a less energetic role, but adapt to be somewhat more of a distributor of the ball, or even foresee him dropping back into defence? What about his personality around the dressing room, I don't know enough about him but is he someone who, even if his performances start to decline, will be a positive influence, help drive standards, motivate others and pass on his knowledge, or would he be a quiet recluse? I hope our management has taken this and more into account, but have no idea if so or not, and little faith..
Not sure about how good he'll be in a Ten Hag system really. Honestly, with him, we have a very decent team to sit back and counter-attack.
So you're telling me his positioning is terrible?
worst quote of all timeCome on, the De Jong ship has sailed now.
Zidane grinning in the background
Yeah this is actually happening fair enough.
He does!He has one hell of a challenge ahead if his transfer goes through.
What's he like? I mean is he a leader? Mentally strong? We desperately need those qualities in our shit show of a team
Even if we wont get anyone else in mid, both McT and Fred will be much better with Casemiro next to them
Agent Fred is surely tapping him up.
I read that Fred plays very well with him for Brazil. So if he comes, he will already have that connection.
So you're telling me his positioning is terrible?
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Not a terrible succession plan, quite enviable really
I think it's too early for Tchouameni, I wouldn't be surprised if Alaba is the n°1 pick for a season or so. Tchouameni is a talented player so it could work but Casemiro's shoes are huge to fill, they were such a perfect balance with Kroos and Modric. I'm actually not sure Tchouameni can play at a single 6 at the moment, I don't think he's ready.
Im sure they’ll figure it out somehow and win another CL
I have been on the case of Tielemans but with someone like Casemiro, a cheap Tielemans is a good bet.
United's plan if Casemiro doesn't sign:
1) Joe Allen
2) Joshua Kimmich
3) Harry Winks
I’d agree with that. Might be lacking mobility a little bit (especially with Eriksen/Fernandes as the third) but the quality on the ball and the quality defensively goes up massively with those two
It's the least technical midfield pairing ahead of Casemiro ETH could pick, but it would also be the hardest working and hypothetically if this team could ever get the confidence and form to play higher up the field we wouldn't need Fred or McTominay to have to come so deep. Martinez could also come out of defense to get play started. Then those 2 midfielders ahead of Casemiro can focus on pushing the ball up the pitch. McTominay can by physically imposing and he's shown at times he can be an attacking threat around the box with his shot or in the box trying to head it in.
Maybe not if he gets involved in training beforehand. McTominay squares up to him, McTominay doesn't realise that some people actually see squaring up as more than just hard man posturing, McTominay gets knocked on his arse.
Fred partners with Chase Miro, a little known player on our books who looks like Casemiro but obviously can't be because this guy has a totally real (admittedly fake looking) moustache and the real Casemiro is over there sitting beside a waving Ten Hag (I know it looks like a broom with a picture of Casemiro's face on it but trust me, that's the real guy right there).
This transfer may get done? I'm still glass half empty guy ATM. But who knows may change. This guy is a ready made CM that's for sure if he does come expect a few Yellows and the odd Red in the prem with him . Just hope if he does come we get at least 2.5 good seasons out of him
Can mctominay be good with anyone? I’m not confident in mctominay… I have a bit of faith in Fred, Fred shows he can at least press whereas mctominay runs around like an headless chicken and misplaces far to many passes.
I think Real would be open to sell Casemiro. They dont have player sentiments like we do. They have Camavinga who has 1 year of experience in the team and also bought Touchemani. Ideally they would like Casemiro to stay one more year before moving but I dont think anyone will pay over 50 mill for 31 year old DM.
It is ideal for us. We wont have any resale value but if he brings the stability in the midfield for next couple of years, we could build on that. And I think Casemiro, Fred/Eriksen, Eriksen/Bruno midfield would be pretty good. Just hope he is not injury prone like Varane.
Brilliant footballer but a 5 year contract for a 30 year old on huge wages is a massive gamble.Is this not the kind of thing we have regretted in the past?If his legs go in two or three years people will be on here saying we shouldn’t have given him a 5 year contract and he will be impossible to move on.Can’t say I’m not giddy at the thought of him coming though.
And here, for what has long passed the umpteenth time, we have people being conned or even conning themselves into thinking there is some way Fred and McTominay can somehow be good enough.
It just never ends. Talk about that Einstein quote.
It just never ends. Talk about that Einstein quote.
Didn't we get matic at the same age? We only managed to get a good 18 mi ths out if his legs.
Don't get me wrong I'd love it if he came here, if he hits the ground running he will be the shield we need in front of maguire and martinez, but it solves nothing as we will need a replacement in 2/3 years
Don't get me wrong I'd love it if he came here, if he hits the ground running he will be the shield we need in front of maguire and martinez, but it solves nothing as we will need a replacement in 2/3 years
Might solve us having a chance for CL in those 2/3 years.
Even Alaba at CDM would be a massive upgrade for our midfield yet he’s only an emergency back-up for them.
He played there for Bayern in Paris for the CL QF last season and was excellent.
Safe to say they’re well covered.
My god that is BEAUTIFUL.
It solves 2 or 3 years then, n’est pas?
The only concern with Casemiro is that despite a strong finish to the season, I feel for large parts of it he didn’t look the force he was in previous years.
Is he past his peak?
Is he past his peak?
Camavinga doesn't play as a DM. More of a box to box and great at driving with the ball. They do have a few options, with Valverde, Tchouameni, Alaba.
In terms of pure thrill, tackling someone is second only to scoring a goal. I loved crunching into a tackle on some poor slob trying to get fancy with the ball.So you're telling me his positioning is terrible?
We've been here before though. We sign a player who looked great in a team surrounded by competent team mates and then wonder what's gone wrong when we make them play with the shite we have. Fred is fine, McTominay shouldn't be anywhere near our squad. We desperately need a ball playing partner for Casemiro because otherwise we're one injury to Fred away from having nobody other than youth players to work with him
He could be 50 % off his peak and still be better than anything we have tbf.
Beggars can't be choosers. If he can give us 3-4 years of play that's anywhere near the level he showed at Madrid then it would be a massive improvement over what we've had over the last few years.
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