big rons sovereign
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Jesus Christ.This from a Bayern fan who are getting a 33-year-old?
At this point, we can get an Emery and we'd do better than we are right now, even if we'll still play shit.
Jesus Christ.This from a Bayern fan who are getting a 33-year-old?
At this point, we can get an Emery and we'd do better than we are right now, even if we'll still play shit.
Spot on and it's obvious to everyone but the leeches running the club and certain rose tinted fans.I think a lot of people need to get on board with the fact the Alex Ferguson was not the rule. He was the exception to the rule. The greatest manager to ever grace the game, and some people think he can be replicated so easily. Every manager since, fans say "give him more time..." and inevitably it ends in tears. Ole isnt good enough. He never was. If it was going to happen, it would have happened by now. The EL final was just more of the same thing we have seen time and again under his management. Its time. He did his best, he made some good memories for himself and the fans. Time to move on before it turns sour. And it will turn sour.
Chelsea have shown that being ruthless is what wins shit. Not this stick with the same guy to the bitter end nonsense that we keep favouring thinking that SAF 2.0 is just around the corner. Hes not. His like may never come again. Some of us really need to accept that and let the dream of Ole go. Or once again we risk losing the chance to get a manager in that can win some silverware.
Agree with this.Look at this response. This is exactly what I mean.
We've just seen a manager 5 months into his job win the CL, while our favourite football student has been here 2.5 years and still needs time.
When confronted by such hard and clear facts you decide to attack me and that just makes my point for me.
OGS could have done something like what Tuchel did when he was interim but we saw where he got us to - getting smashed by Barcelona after one of the most unlikely comeback jammy wins in CL history (in terms of performance) against PSG.
Nah, the people on here believe in Ole, not in Jesus.Jesus Christ.
You'll find that level headed people believe ole is doing a pretty good job all things considered.Nah, the people on here believe in Ole, not in Jesus.
You'll find that level headed people believe ole is doing a pretty good job all things considered.
Smallminded reactive smacked arses however, are spamming the forum to death making it a shitty place to be.
You'll find that level headed people believe ole is doing a pretty good job all things considered.
Smallminded reactive smacked arses however, are spamming the forum to death making it a shitty place to be.
Why didn't he won it with PSG? He got them to the final and lost by one goal to Bayern who were clearly the best team in the world.I see Tuchel inheriting a very decent side and getting them over the line in what is ultimately a cup competition is providing fuel for the Ole-Outers.
Why didn’t he win it at PSG then when he had more time and a better squad eh?
This reminds me... we need to add Di Matteo to the shortlist to replace Ole...
You don't extend him, and then? Who do you appoint? Who really guarantees better performances?
Noone available, really. Anyone would be a risk.
Implicitly calls me small-minded and then styles himself as rational. What a wise man you are.
I guess it hurts when facts don't agree with your image of the world, fanboy.
No one can warrant a thing, but one thing is warranted we won't win anything important with Ole so we might just gamble, maybe we'll strike gold.You don't extend him, and then? Who do you appoint? Who really guarantees better performances?
Noone available, really. Anyone would be a risk.
Off you go then, nobody's stopping you.You forget to tell us to go and support other clubs. I mean, pretty much the standard response from the elite top red fans nowadays.
Off you go then, nobody's stopping you.
I swear all Tuchel did was put Rudiger back in and dropped Alonso.I'm still in the Ole camp because Tuchel inherited a very talented and underperforming squad from Lampard. Havertz, one of the most talented kids on the planet, was finally starting to find his feet, after months of struggling under Lampard. Lampard takes full credit for Mount.
Lampard left a squad that was ready to explode with the right person in charge.
Compare that to Ole, who inherited a shipwreck from Jose. Overpaid stars who were not good enough or who's hearts were not in it, and who were happy to sit in the bench and collect the cheque - Alexis, Fred, Lindelof were not good enough.. Martial, Lukaku, Pogba all looked miserable. Matic too old.
I think Ole needs another season or two, moulding the likes of Garner, Diallo, Mejbri etc into stars before thinking of handing the reins over to a Hans Flick or a Jesse Marsch someone like that.
Coming from the ultimate troll, I'll take that advice and cherish it.Should have said it from the start instead of waiting for me to remind you. Try to be better next time with your trolling.
Oh, I'm one of those religious nutcases? News to me, if so.Look at this response. This is exactly what I mean.
We've just seen a manager 5 months into his job win the CL, while our favourite football student has been here 2.5 years and still needs time.
When confronted by such hard and clear facts you decide to attack me and that just makes my point for me.
OGS could have done something like what Tuchel did when he was interim but we saw where he got us to - getting smashed by Barcelona after one of the most unlikely comeback jammy win in CL history (in terms of performance) against PSG.
I swear all Tuchel did was put Rudiger back in and dropped Alonso.
Man's a genius.....
Coming from the ultimate troll, I'll take that advice and cherish it.
I take it Di Matteo is also a genius, then?He just won the CL so obviously he is a genius. Especially he didn't buy any new players but coached them a lot better. The position they were when he took over.
I had a response to this, but I can't, I just can't be bothered.He just won the CL so obviously he is a genius. Especially he didn't buy any new players but coached them a lot better. The position they were when he took over.
That's not what I said is it.Well, considered that you called anyone who disagrees with your opinion "Smallminded reactive smacked arses", this feels almost like a complaint at this point.
That's not what I said is it.
I said that reactive smallminded smacked arses are spamming the forum to death making it a shitty place to be.
That, my trolly friend, is a fact.
Nothing to do with my opinion or anybody's that differs.
Try again.
You'll find that level headed people believe ole is doing a pretty good job all things considered.
I see Tuchel inheriting a very decent side and getting them over the line in what is ultimately a cup competition is providing fuel for the Ole-Outers.
Why didn’t he win it at PSG then when he had more time and a better squad eh?
This reminds me... we need to add Di Matteo to the shortlist to replace Ole...
I did say that. And it's true.You also said this, my junior troll :
Certainly he has won a lot more than Ole as a manger. He took over end of March and won the CL. Ole has been at United for and 2 and half years and won feck all. They sacked him when they got kicked out of the CL. How many trophies have they won after that? Quite a few and how many managers have they changed? Quite a few. If you don't deliver then go.I take it Di Matteo is also a genius, then?
I swear all Tuchel did was put Rudiger back in and dropped Alonso.
Man's a genius.....
They also back their manager.Certainly he has won a lot more than Ole as a manger. He took over end of March and won the CL. Ole has been at United for and 2 and half years and won feck all. They sacked him when they got kicked out of the CL. How many trophies have they won after that? Quite a few and how many managers have they changed? Quite a few. If you don't deliver then go.
I know managers can effect teams in a small period of time, Ole went unbeaten for months including beating Tuchel over two legs didn’t he?Why didn't he won it with PSG? He got them to the final and lost by one goal to Bayern who were clearly the best team in the world.
How can you be so blind to see that managers can affect a team in a short period of time, I mean it's just been proven. So the whole "needs time" excuse just became invalid.
Shit were not asking him to win the UCL, just challenging. We are stucked in mediocrity and some people are fine with it because Ole was a legend as a player here. If he wasn't there's no chance people would support him he has no place managing a top team and it will be proved once he's fired from him that's the last time you'll see him managing anything that resembles a top team. Feck I doubt hell even get a mid table team to manage in a top league.
Your my shadow aren’t you eh.You're really grasping at any straw now to try and argue a point that has been absolutely dismantled over the last week. You're persistent and willing to die on your sword, I give you that.
Sentiment & outright obsession with the past is killing our club. We’re Liverpool circa 1994, Ole is our Souness.Ole is the only manager to get 300m and 2 years as year zero.
Most managers would have been successful in 3 years and moved on.
But 3 years for us is just foreplay
We're run by utter morons.Ole is the only manager to get 300m and 2 years as year zero.
Most managers would have been successful in 3 years and moved on.
But 3 years for us is just foreplay
We’re Liverpool circa 1994, Ole is our Souness.