Harry & Meghan step back from Royals - seeking financial independence

InfiniteBoredom said:
Andrew hobnobbing around with a known pedophile is okay, but a young couple striking out on their own is a disappointment.

Glad to see they have their priorities straight.
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That's the BBC's spin on it. How close it is to fact is anyone's guess. Plus they basically sacked Andrew, which is pretty much unprecedented.
 
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Classical Mechanic said:
I agree with you that Harry has long been uncomfortable with the royal life and that Megan will have only enforced feelings in him that were already there. The idea that they can escape from public life is a false though. They still want to take part in Royal duties so will be exposed to public glare but they also have a level of fame that they can never escape. If anything this move will increase scrutiny on them. It looks like they are agitating to be royals on their own terms more than anything.
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From the statement it looks like they want to explore their ability to generate their own income to maintain a lifestyle they are used to having. Megan doesn't have any issues as she already has an acting career to fall back on. I don't know what life skills Harry has as he hasn't held a job besides serving in the military. However there's nothing stopping him from using his stature to become the well paid CEO of an NGO based on his previous work. Considering his "woke" profile, he could pick any cause like global warming, AIDS, wildlife conservation or one of a dozen other things and add it to a portfolio that involves lucrative public speaking appearances. They can renounce their royal titles and fade into a quiet yet visible life in due time if they choose to do so.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
From the statement it looks like they want to explore their ability to generate their own income to maintain a lifestyle they are used to having. Megan doesn't have any issues as she already has an acting career to fall back on. I don't know what life skills Harry has as he hasn't held a job besides serving in the military. However there's nothing stopping him from using his stature to become the well paid CEO of an NGO based on his previous work. Considering his "woke" profile, he could pick any cause like global warming, AIDS, wildlife conservation or one of a dozen other things and add it to a portfolio that involves lucrative public speaking appearances. They can renounce their royal titles and fade into a quiet yet visible life in due time if they choose to do so.
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They don't want to renounce their royal titles as far as I'm aware. They still want to partake in royal duties "continuing to honour our duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages". I guess that I'm more cynical but it looks like to me that they want to redefine their roles and gain more freedom over duties and movement. Giving up taxpayer money is the trade they are looking to make for it.

Meghan's profile is massive now so the level of acting jobs she will get offered will be at a much higher level. Harry can earn hundreds of thousands a night doing speaking engagements, as you say. A 'Harry & Meghan' Insta account could earn them double digit millions a year. The economic possibilities for them are many and great. 'Financial independence' will not be an impressive achievement.

I don't blame them for this move, in fact I'd say it was a necessary part of the modernisation of the Royal family. Apparently William is going to cut off most of the Royals from taxpayer money when he gets the crown and Harry would have been one of those affected, again being cynical but it looks a good moment to beat him to the punch and gain control of a positive narrative. Again though, I don't blame them for wanting some relative peace in Canada in which to bring up their kid(s).
 
Classical Mechanic said:
They don't want to renounce their royal titles as far as I'm aware. They still want to partake in royal duties "continuing to honour our duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages". I guess that I'm more cynical but it looks like to me that they want to redefine their roles and gain more freedom over duties and movement. Giving up taxpayer money is the trade they are looking to make for it.

Meghan's profile is massive now so the level of acting jobs she will get offered will be at a much higher level. Harry can earn hundreds of thousands a night doing speaking engagements, as you say. A 'Harry & Meghan' Insta account could earn them double digit millions a year. The economic possibilities for them are many and great. 'Financial independence' will not be an impressive achievement.

I don't blame them for this move, in fact I'd say it was a necessary part of the modernisation of the Royal family. Apparently William is going to cut off most of the Royals from taxpayer money when he gets the crown and Harry would have been one of those affected, again being cynical but it looks a good moment to beat him to the punch and gain control of a positive narrative. Again though, I don't blame them for wanting some relative peace in Canada in which to bring up their kid(s).
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So basically he wants a finger in the pie minus the effort and the restrictions surrounding the role.
 
Bwuk said:
Were they not disappointed with Prince Andrew touching underagers?
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No its the norm to be paedophiles in the big house and cover it up. just have to look at prince phillip to know he has a cupboard full of haribo starmix as bait
 
Grinner said:
Why are they so loathed? Harry seems like a good bloke to me.
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I think it’s broadly a political divide here. Those on the right see them as ungrateful brats that are disrespecting the queen and a sense of Britishness. Those on the left think it’s great, that they‘re ‘woke’ and sticking it to oppressive institution and a sense of Britishness. The truth is probably somewhere in between.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
They don't want to renounce their royal titles as far as I'm aware. They still want to partake in royal duties "continuing to honour our duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages". I guess that I'm more cynical but it looks like to me that they want to redefine their roles and gain more freedom over duties and movement. Giving up taxpayer money is the trade they are looking to make for it.

Meghan's profile is massive now so the level of acting jobs she will get offered will be at a much higher level. Harry can earn hundreds of thousands a night doing speaking engagements, as you say. A 'Harry & Meghan' Insta account could earn them double digit millions a year. The economic possibilities for them are many and great. 'Financial independence' will not be an impressive achievement.

I don't blame them for this move, in fact I'd say it was a necessary part of the modernisation of the Royal family. Apparently William is going to cut off most of the Royals from taxpayer money when he gets the crown and Harry would have been one of those affected, again being cynical but it looks a good moment to beat him to the punch and gain control of a positive narrative. Again though, I don't blame them for wanting some relative peace in Canada in which to bring up their kid(s).
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Does that money go towards security only?
 
villain said:
Fantastic news.

I'm a fan of seeing the 'Royal Family' falter in any & every way possible.
& the press have treated Meghan in an absolutely disgusting manner.

As a side note, the general british public are confusing as feck.
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:lol:
 
It's all about money.

If they can achieve financial independence and fund their lifestyle then good luck to them. However, if they live in properties paid for by the taxpayer or are protected by publicly funded police officers then there has to be some come back on that. You cannot have all the benefits from being a HRH and not do the duties.
 
In the past he could have just lead a rebellion and kill his brother. Now there is no way out and no way to cull the numbers.
 
OMFG!!!

This Morning caller admits she's so furious she has unfollowed Harry and Meghan

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/morning-caller-admits-shes-furious-21248532

Oh and Joy is probably a closet racist.

But Joy, from Sittingbournem, confessed she was not a fan from the beginning and her instincts warned her something was wrong.

She said: "I felt this was going to go terribly worng. She was over to play a role. She's an actress. She wanted fame and fortune via a male partner and it happened to be our Harry."
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sammsky1 said:
Perhaps he will and ones reaction can be really cynical about it.

But it’s all relative: he was brought up in a particular way with access to a certain lifestyle and social connections, it is what it is.

But I personally think it’s laudable that Harry will attempt to earn his own income, and as is also stated, set up his own charity. He is seeking more ownership to his life’s purpose, which is currenly just as a ‘spare’ to the throne.

He is still relatively young: I think his intention is to live amongst more normal people and ensure his children can succeed in that world.

It’s also a massive fcuk you to the British media and the upper class British establishment whose treatment towards Meghan has been despicable and abhorrent racist dog whistling. I think Diana would be proud of him.

I think it’s all good.
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This
 
Sassy Colin said:
In the case of Diana, she was acting weird and hanging round with other blokes.

In the case of Camilla, she was stealing Diana's husband.

In the case of Meghan, she's not really done anything wrong to merit the attention she gets.
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I was watching a documentary and it showed Megan getting quite friendly with a fake lawyer in New York.
 
redshaw said:
I've seen Diana take a trillion times more stick, hounded and be truly invaded over a long time and killed through it, she's white. I don't buy this thing Hillary Clinton put out.

Fair enough if they as a couple or she doesn't fancy the attention even if it's pretty tame to what's gone on before. They've hounded the sons while single even.

It's a shame, I was sick to the back teeth seeing Diana across all the front pages for decades. I don't support the way the press report on the Royals and find the interest in them bizarre. When I was younger I disliked the concept of a Royal family but they do bring in people to visit this damp and miserable island and are a net benefit last I looked so I wouldn't want to see an end to the pomp and ceremony. Of course these heavy socialists communist types want it all stopped but I think we'd be worse off and lose some appeal.
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You can keep the tourist attraction bit but remove their political role.
 
Wibble said:
He dared to marry someone who wasn't a Kate Middleton clone. Divorced, American, not entirely anglo (or German/Geek royalty).
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I think it's a lot more simple: The British press and establishment hate that a woman of negroid heritage has conquered the heart of a British royal prince. and is calling all the shots in their relationship.

I think it's quite funny, especially in the xenophobic Brexit times: must be driving the Daily Mail/Telegraph types insane with rage.
 
As much as I can't stand the Royals, I don't think Meghan is doing herself any favours. Now she's buggered off to America. She knew what she was marrying into so she can't really complain about it now. And just putting out that statement without prior consultation. You can't just waltz into the monarchy and start dictating your own t's and c's. They should just be cut off if that's what they want and be done with it. I dread to think what future family engagements will be like now that they have set their stall out and alienated themselves from the rest of the Royals.
 
RedPed said:
As much as I can't stand the Royals, I don't think Meghan is doing herself any favours. Now she's buggered off to America. She knew what she was marrying into so she can't really complain about it now. And just putting out that statement without prior consultation. You can't just waltz into the monarchy and start dictating your own t's and c's. They should just be cut off if that's what they want and be done with it. I dread to think what future family engagements will be like now that they have set their stall out and alienated themselves from the rest of the Royals.
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If you haven't been following the news over the last couple of years, Meghan has constantly vilified by the likes of the Sun and the Mail for bugger all - those papers have readerships of millions so that translates into opinions forming in peoples minds. It can't have been very pleasant to live with - I think them moving to Canada would actually be a really smart move for them to get away from the constant press coverage they receive here.
 
marktan said:
If you haven't been following the news over the last couple of years, Meghan has constantly vilified by the likes of the Sun and the Mail for bugger all - those papers have readerships of millions so that translates into opinions forming in peoples minds. It can't have been very pleasant to live with - I think them moving to Canada would actually be a really smart move for them to get away from the constant press coverage they receive here.
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Reading your comment... What if Harry intends to become King of Canada, so they don't have to kiss England s ass anymore? Why didn't we think of this before.

Waiting for the inevitable War of the Bros(-es)
 
marktan said:
If you haven't been following the news over the last couple of years, Meghan has constantly vilified by the likes of the Sun and the Mail for bugger all - those papers have readerships of millions so that translates into opinions forming in peoples minds. It can't have been very pleasant to live with - I think them moving to Canada would actually be a really smart move for them to get away from the constant press coverage they receive here.
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I'm fully aware of the press treatment. Diana got it. Fergie got it. Kate got a bit of it. And Meghan was going to be no different. Her background coming from America, being an actress, a divorcee and of mixed race just gave them more to work with.

As I said, I'm sure Harry would/should have had discussions about this. They already had a taster with the whole issue concerning Meghan's father. And they did opt to go down the Royal Wedding route. They are pretty much having their cake and eating it. It's very similar to the England Manager's job. It's a job that not many could turn down but comes with a lot of scrutiny, pressure and heat from the press.

I think the press are scum but for Harry and Meghan to cry foul after signing on the dotted line is just a bit rich that's all. If they are going to move to North America, fair play to them....but not on their terms. You can't 'move' towards financial independence. As far as the monarchy is concerned, you're either in or out. That's where they'll receive a lot of criticism and rightly so. As well as releasing their statement without following due process.
 
Sassy Colin said:
Prince Edward managed to disappear into the background fairly easily once he got married, although he has never been particularly high profile as Royals go. he still does bits & pieces though. I guess that is what they are aiming for.
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He was in line to be King before relinquishing his title and back in 1930 there wasn't social media and internet and everyone with a camera phone. If anything, their private life will be more scrutinised than it is at the moment.

Edit: Penna has filled me about whom you're talking about as I were.
 
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Maybe I am being dense but can someone please explain the outrage about wanting financial independence (forget the fact they did take the piss and now want freedom after spending millions).

Meghan was criticised all over the place for being a "climber", using the Royals, trying to live a luxurious life for free etc etc. Now they don't want to be tax payer funded (apparently), but that's a bad thing now? She can't win with people
 
MaxiPaxi said:
He was in line to be King before relinquishing his title and back in 1930 there wasn't social media and internet and everyone with a camera phone. If anything, their private life will be more scrutinised than it is at the moment.
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Prince Charles’ youngest brother.
 
If they want independence then they should get it but not one step out and one step in (to benefit from the perks surrounding being part of the royal family). That mean no money, no security etc.

And whoever says I'm anti markle they can buzz off. I loved her in suits, she's got maltese ancestry and she is very proud of such ancestry
 
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