Paulo Dybala

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Does a 4231 system suit Dybala because I doubt Ole is going to change for one player? He's good, but he's not a player worth changing a system over.
Dybala played in Juventus with a 4231 system, with Higuain forward, Dybala on the back, Mandzukic on the left side and Cuadrado on the right side. Dybala was very good. The problem is that after a year we had to change because midfielder were no more able to resist to opponents (Pjanic and Khedira were not enough and Mandzukic and Cuadrado could no more help them).
 
If the reports are true then I don't want him here, he'll just be here because of the money, and he'll be just another depressed South American trapped in a country with shitty weather and the Europa League.

If he genuinely wants to be here though he can be a great player for us, but why the feck would he want to be here?
 
Ill go out the box on this... Zabaleta wasnt too bad in his prime.
This shit doesn't deserve to be dignified by empirical falsification. It's absurd on its face.

It would be akin to someone claiming that blond people can't do arithmetic, because two of his cousins can't and they are blond. Hopefully you wouldn't start looking for examples of blond people that can do arithmetic, instead of mocking the stupidity of such a claim straight away.
 
Dybala played in Juventus with a 4231 system, with Higuain forward, Dybala on the back, Mandzukic on the left side and Cuadrado on the right side. Dybala was very good. The problem is that after a year we had to change because midfielder were no more able to resist to opponents (Pjanic and Khedira were not enough and Mandzukic and Cuadrado could no more help them).

I get the feeling that it will be the same with a double pivot of McTominay and Pogba.
 
Argentinians are a race ?

No you're right racist is not the right term. But it is imbibing the fallacy of "if a few <insert group here> worked out this way all future <insert group here> will also work out this way" which racism is an instantiation of. It is definitely prejudiced.

Anyways my post was never about the poster it was about the opinion which I have seen a lot of in here in the last couple of days.
 
Ill go out the box on this... Zabaleta wasnt too bad in his prime.
OK, but apart from Zabaleta, Aguero, Tevez, Heinze, Romero, Veron, Rojo and Di Maria - has there ever been a decent Argentinian playing in Manchester? There is clearly a (lack of a) pattern here. OK, I'm tired of this now. So, Dybala. He's good! I still can't believe Juve would trade him in for Lukaku. It just doesn't make any sense!
 
Dybala played in Juventus with a 4231 system, with Higuain forward, Dybala on the back, Mandzukic on the left side and Cuadrado on the right side. Dybala was very good. The problem is that after a year we had to change because midfielder were no more able to resist to opponents (Pjanic and Khedira were not enough and Mandzukic and Cuadrado could no more help them).

Yes. And a 4-2-3-1 with a player like Dybala as the number 10 is really a different system than a 4-2-3-1 like Pochettino's that uses players like Alli or Eriksen as the number 10.

The former is basically a 4-4-2. The 10 player is only going to defend from the front when you are out of possession and when you are in possession he isn't going to drop deep to help the build up or exchange positions with one of the CMs to confuse the defense.

The latter can morph from a 4-4-2 to become a 4-3-3 when out of possession, with the 10 becoming part of the middle bank of defenders rather than just defending from the front, or a 4-3-3 in possession, with three central midfielders capable of circulating around, switching positions, and potentially dropping deep to get on the ball.
 
Ok so apart from Tevez, Di Maria, Veron, Heinze, Aguero, Romero, and Zabalta. What have the Argentinian’s ever done for us. Life of Brian

Tevez done well for us, his partnership with Rooney was lethal.

But according to you all Argentine's will flop at Utd
 
This will happen. Juve want Lukaku and don’t want him. I’m sure he’d be fine joining us even if his preference is to stay.
 
Ok so apart from Tevez, Di Maria, Veron, Heinze, Aguero, Romero, and Zabalta. What have the Argentinian’s ever done for us.
Tevez done well for us, his partnership with Rooney was lethal.

But according to you all Argentine's will flop at Utd
it was a joke ffs. Tevez might of been a legend if Berbatov didn’t arrive.
 
Veron failed mainly because he was competing with the best attacking midfielder of his era, in his prime, and at his school yard. There's no way that Gaz, Becks, Nick, Ryan and co would have allowed him to ruin Scholes career. Heinze was one hell of a solid LB, Tevez was a key player in the treble winning team. Its a shame that Sir Alex replaced him with Barbieflop. Di Maria was our main assist man. Once he was sold, United produced the most boring season in 3 decades and LVG walked out 6 months later and Romero is a very solid no 2. The only Argentinian that I can think off who failed big time was Rojo.
 
On this forum:
We are a mess at the moment, it's going to be hard to convince world class players to join us. We only have ridiculous wages to offer them and nothing else. Shit, are we gonna settle for mediocre players or having to dig up gems all the time?

Also on this forum:
feck DYBALA HE IS NOT PACKING HIS BAGS IMMEDIATELY AFTER HEARING ABOUT OUR INTEREST I DONT WANT HIM TO JOIN HE WILL BE THE NEXT DI MARIA feck OFF DYBALA HE IS feckING OVERRATED AND WILL BE A FLOP.


People, learn to think objectively. By joining us, Dybala had to give up a club in which he was adored by the fans and is called their jewel. Even now almost all Juventus fans are against this swap and is desperate for him to stay. He had also been very successful with them in the past, and he surely thinks he can replicate that again. Juventus is easily the best club in Italy, and is one of the favourites to win the CL. He had won multiple trophies with them and been to CL final with them.

Us on the other hand is a complete mess. We finished 6th last season, last won the league when SAF was still here, last been to CL final when Ronaldo was still young, our best players wanted to leave, no CL next season and not even close to challenging the league title. He is also moving to a new place where he is not guaranteed to be successful and might not be as adored by the fans as he was back in Juventus. Of fecking course he needs a few days to think about it and needs to makes sure Juventus really doesn't have him in their plans. Which world class footballer in their right mind would decide to join us immediately?
 
Assuming we keep Pogba, I could honestly see Dybala coming here and really enjoying himself. A chance to rejoin his best friend on the playing field, playing in (hopefully) a fast and high-pressure system, pacey players on the wings who will stretch the defense with their runs and create more space for him to operate...there's no telling how he feels about us besides wanting to stay at Juve, but if he's open minded then he may very well settle in nicely here if we pull this off. It's worth a punt, for sure.
 
What you thinking? Longstaff and Dunk?

That would make it a good window, reinforcements in the right positions with players who want to play here and have the hunger to improve.
 
it was a joke ffs. Tevez might of been a legend if Berbatov didn’t arrive.

Tevez would have eventually left. That's what Tevez does. He stays for a couple of years and then he would have wanted out. He was a legend at Juventus but he did the same thing there. However he left far too soon and only because Sir Alex obsessed with Berbaflop. The Bulgarian might have had the silky skills but he wasn't half effective as Tevez was. No wonder why while the former went on winning stuff with Shitty and Juventus, the latter ended up erm at Fulham
 
How long do I need to wait? June 2020? I'm perfectly relaxed, i gave up on this window a couple of weeks ago. This is all just bluster.

If you think we aren't signing players before the end of the window then you're deluded.
 
Tevez would have eventually left. That's what Tevez does. He stays for a couple of years and then he would have wanted out. He was a legend at Juventus but he did the same thing there. However he left far too soon and only because Sir Alex obsessed with Berbaflop. The Bulgarian might have had the silky skills but he wasn't half effective as Tevez was. No wonder why while the former went on winning stuff with Shitty and Juventus, the latter ended up erm at Fulham
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Veron failed mainly because he was competing with the best attacking midfielder of his era, in his prime, and at his school yard. There's no way that Gaz, Becks, Nick, Ryan and co would have allowed him to ruin Scholes career. Heinze was one hell of a solid LB, Tevez was a key player in the treble winning team. Its a shame that Sir Alex replaced him with Barbieflop. Di Maria was our main assist man. Once he was sold, United produced the most boring season in 3 decades and LVG walked out 6 months later and Romero is a very solid no 2. The only Argentinian that I can think off who failed big time was Rojo.

Please explain further.
 
He'll request more money than he's worth, that goes without saying. You have to pay a premium when you can't offer Champions league football. And being South American he'd obviously more than likely prefer to play in Spain.

But that doesn't mean he wouldn't want to play for Manchester United, and it doesn't mean that he won't give his all. We've been burned by so many big transfers recently that some supporters seem to have just given up on the prospect of signing top tier players. Take what the press write with a pinch of salt, they have to sell a story so they will always add drama and obstacles, as any great storyteller would. The only real concern should be PSG.
 
Martial/Rashford and Dybala up front with Pogba in behind seems like the most sensible lineup to me.
 
Shock horror fans on this forum are pessimistic about Dybala, if he does come here, he'll be instantly adored and wiry the way he plays and the direction we're going he'll be a success. Not every player will 100% want to come but things quickly change in football and I want to be dybala would want to be seen as a success here.
 
If we were guaranteed that that money would be invested into another transfer but I dont trust the board on that.

Make no mistake neither do I. But I think that we're better off without anybody as a replacement rather than a strop throwing diva whenever he reminds himself that he didn't want to be here in the first place.
 
It’s funny how everybody is instantly experts of his state of mind.

”He does not want to be here!”
”He is a money grabber!”
”Just another Di Maria!”

And he has not even been here a second. If he comes everybody should make judgements with an open mind.
 
So if it's not Dybala, Bruno or Maguire...who are we signing? Feels like we're back to square one :lol:
Nothing has changed on Dybala and Bruno. Dybala meets Sarri tomorrow if Sarri tells him he's not in his plans (as expected) United are in pole position to sign him.
 
This shit doesn't deserve to be dignified by empirical falsification. It's absurd on its face.

It would be akin to someone claiming that blond people can't do arithmetic, because two of his cousins can't and they are blond. Hopefully you wouldn't start looking for examples of blond people that can do arithmetic, instead of mocking the stupidity of such a claim straight away.

Are you sure you quoted the right person in your response? Judging by your ire at me saying zabaleta was a good player in manchester (and thus adding to the list of argies already listed), maybe you need a hug or something
 
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It’s funny how everybody is instantly experts of his state of mind.

”He does not want to be here!”
”He is a money grabber!”
”Just another Di Maria!”

And he has not even been here a second. If he comes everybody should make judgements with an open mind.
Yeah that's not going to happen. :lol:
 
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