Mourinho comments about our season to L'Equipe

devilish said:
The attitude is imposed by the manager whose responsible of bringing in the players with the right attitude and get rid of the players with the wrong attitude.
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If he's not in charge of transfers then he's not responsible for that is he?
 
I remain delighted that he is sitting in a studio bitterly talking about United rather than managing it
 
Hate that he will never take even the smallest responsibility for the state of things, but I suppose that's to be expected. You've got to admit though, a lot of the claims he's made about player attitudes at the club have been proven right since he's gone.
 
TwoSheds said:
If he's not in charge of transfers then he's not responsible for that is he?
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Yes I mean the club really must have wanted Matic right... He has to take responsibility for his part.
 
He wasn't the right manager for us, but he is a top class manager and he's completely right about Pogba, Martial and Lingard. Footballers aren't always the brightest or most mature group and without leaders, it's not inconceivable that they'll look up to the likes of Pogba and want to emulate him because he's 'cool'. JLingz clearly wants to be just like him and this little trio and their attitudes are a big problem.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
There are zero details. What he said covers pretty much every single aspect of a teams make-up. How can it be 'spot on'? It's vague in the extreme. I mean for a start, he organises the team right?
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Well, our problems certainly do range over every aspect of a team's make-up to use your words, so it isn't vague. We have problems with players, question marks over the manager and staff, and the incompetence of the board. That's basically everything about the club.

And by "organization", he means Woodward, that is clear enough.
 
Von Mistelroum said:
He wasn't the right manager for us, but he is a top class manager and he's completely right about Pogba, Martial and Lingard. Footballers aren't always the brightest or most mature group and without leaders, it's not inconceivable that they'll look up to the likes of Pogba and want to emulate him because he's 'cool'. JLingz clearly wants to be just like him and this little trio and their attitudes are a big problem.
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I wouldn't include Martial in the trio of fame seekers, seems too quiet and like a loner to me.

The trio that needs seperating are Pogba, Rashford and Lingard.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
There are zero details. What he said covers pretty much every single aspect of a teams make-up. How can it be 'spot on'? It's vague in the extreme. I mean for a start, he organises the team right?
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Pretty much, the art of saying nothing while making sure to distance himself from something.
 
Kapardin said:
Well, our problems certainly do range over every aspect of a team's make-up to use your words, so it isn't vague. We have problems with players, question marks over the manager and staff, and the incompetence of the board. That's basically everything about the club.

And by "organization", he means Woodward, that is clear enough.
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I don't buy his pity party. I think he missed out on only one signing he wanted whilst he was here, how did the'organisation' fail him? Pep has missed out on more in that time. Most of his signings have been expensive flops. OK he wanted to get rid of Martial and that might have been the right call but he wanted to replace him with Willian.

I'm not disagreeing that the clubs in a mess but he was part of the problem too.

What did he say about Lingard, can't see that anywhere but people seem to be talking about it.
 
I wish he'd be a bit more vocal to be honest. He's probably contractually prevented from saying certain things but we'd benefit from him exposing what went on behind the scenes, not with the players but Woody etc.

It might force change and give Ole more investment.
 
Agree with him and if he hadn't lost the dressing room or maybe a few ganged up on him then he would probably still be here even though he's brand of football wasn't nice to watch.

He's basically saying now what's there to be seen that the club is in shambles. We've got a bunch on clowns running it and every decision now feels like a hasty one. We've got no direction and just throwing money at it hoping to buy ourselves out of it.

Piss of Wodward and go feck yourselves Glazers
 
Will Singh said:
Agree with him and if he hadn't lost the dressing room or maybe a few ganged up on him then he would probably still be here even though he's brand of football wasn't nice to watch.
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He loses the dressing room, falls out with star players or the board by his third season everywhere he goes.

He's the biggest reason he's no longer at United, history tells you that.
 
Manchester United reminds me of an alcoholic who turned violent whenever he drank a pint too many. One day he got drunk and tried to bully a former boxer. The latter hit him so much that he ruined his face. Now whose fault is that? Is it because of his alcohol problem or is it down to him meeting the wrong person at the wrong time? I think its both.

United had been badly managed for years. The under investment made during the 'value strategy' lead to a team which was largely made up of average players. After Moyesy's and LVG's failures, Woody decided to cover up the Glazer's incompetence by buying instant success with no care whatsoever for what would happen in the future. That idea attracted Mou whose a specialist on that matter. It turned out that we couldn't financially compete with Shitty or sustain this reckless spending for long.

So whose fault is that? I think its both. Mou failed to bring in the success he promised despite the club giving him an outrageous 400m for him to spend. He left a fragmented squad which is largely made up of players on huge salaries and very little talent to show for it. The club on the other hand have, once again, bet on the wrong guy. I think both are at fault.
 
Say what you will if we did get a CB and a RW in the Summer(even if it was Perisic) I wouldn't count against us finishing top 4 - and being in a much better state than kicking it off on Thursday night next year.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Say what you will if we did get a CB and a RW in the Summer(even if it was Perisic) I wouldn't count against us finishing top 4 - and being in a much better state than kicking it off on Thursday night next year.
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Mourinho still would have had his melt down one way or another. He was doing his old trick of warring with his star player no matter who came in. Remember he fell out with Hazard at Chelsea, Ronaldo at Madrid. Its what he does. He has to be the biggest ego in the room.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Say what you will if we did get a CB and a RW in the Summer(even if it was Perisic) I wouldn't count against us finishing top 4 - and being in a much better state than kicking it off on Thursday night next year.
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Perisic had a mare this season. Even if so, then what? We would be adding more old players, with giant egos and huge salaries which we would need to get rid off later on. That is one hell of a time bomb.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Say what you will if we did get a CB and a RW in the Summer(even if it was Perisic) I wouldn't count against us finishing top 4 - and being in a much better state than kicking it off on Thursday night next year.
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If Mourinho wasn't a prat, I wouldn't count on United managed by Mourinho to finish in the top 4, without a CB and RW.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
Mourinho still would have had his melt down one way or another. He was doing his old trick of warring with his star player no matter who came in. Remember he fell out with Hazard at Chelsea, Ronaldo at Madrid. Its what he does. He has to be the biggest ego in the room.
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He was appointed to get results and get back to CL. In the 6 seasons since Fergie retired we qualified for CL only 3 times - 2 of those times was back to back years under him.

It's what you get. Did the board expect to change his ego and somehow become different personality at 50 years of age?

devilish said:
Perisic had a mare this season. Even if so, then what? We would be adding more old players, with giant egos and huge salaries which we would need to get rid off later on. That is one hell of a time bomb.
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Look above. You couldn't be serious if you expected him to win us the title, especially after the mare in the Summer, but we were competitive under him and we did achieve our highest league position and won European trophy under him.

Yes it would've been bad after he left, but again this is what you get - he was hired for results, or at least this should've been the idea, not build a dynasty. He most likely would give us CL place in 3 consecutive years if he received backing in the summer, which to me would be a good job, considering how far apart we are from City(forget Liverpool).
 
Enigma_87 said:
Look above. You couldn't be serious if you expected him to win us the title, especially after the mare in the Summer, but we were competitive under him and we did achieve our highest league position and won European trophy under him.

Yes it would've been bad after he left, but again this is what you get - he was hired for results, or at least this should've been the idea, not build a dynasty. He most likely would give us CL place in 3 consecutive years if he received backing in the summer, which to me would be a good job, considering how far apart we are from City(forget Liverpool).
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I never said that. After spending 400m, Id expect us to have a half decent squad though. That's not the case.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Say what you will if we did get a CB and a RW in the Summer(even if it was Perisic) I wouldn't count against us finishing top 4 - and being in a much better state than kicking it off on Thursday night next year.
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And we would be in a position where we would need to replace Peresic/Willian because they are in decline.
 
devilish said:
I never said that. After spending 400m, Id expect us to have a half decent squad though. That's not the case.
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Remove Van Dijk and Salah from Liverpool and what do you get? It's Klopp that makes it tick. Let's not pretend that the others didn't spend wild amount to get to top 4.

Cassidy said:
And we would be in a position where we would need to replace Peresic/Willian because they are in decline.
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We will and Jose has proven himself that he can replace players on the go. As I said it's how it works under him.

Why should he get the blame and not the ones that appointed him? What did people expect? Not to buy experienced players that are good for 2-3 season then replace them?
 
Enigma_87 said:
Say what you will if we did get a CB and a RW in the Summer(even if it was Perisic) I wouldn't count against us finishing top 4 - and being in a much better state than kicking it off on Thursday night next year.
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When did Perisic become right winger?
 
Has some valid points but he made poor decisions and club did him favour by not backing him as he wouldn’t have got anywhere near the top 2 and wouldn’t have been able to cope. He’d still have imploded, imagine him finishing a distant third with the Klopp/Pep love in going on.

At the end of the day he threw the towel in before season even started, the guy who was supposed to lead the club was a quitter. He didn’t have enough about him to either walk away if he was being undermined or get on with job he was being made millions to do. Jose looks after himself and that’s what a lot of owners/chairmen will remember about him now.
 
Slevs said:
Some people hate this guy to the point of blindness.

If you think that the club is fine and our terrible season is all down to Mourinho, then you really need to take a step back and re-assess everything.

Not saying the guy was faultless, he could have done much better, but there's a virus in this club and we still haven't removed it.
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Well said. Needs to be said, and to keep saying it. Glazers out.
 
The man was convinced that the only way to catch teams like Liverpool and City was short term planning with players in the twilight of their career. Absolute nonsense.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Can play on both sides and is two footed. Also wanted Willian.
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Can play on both sides but played only as left winger in his entire Inter career (bar one or two games), that's the position he impressed Jose but somehow he was the answer for our RW. These are just excuses.
 
Marcelinho87 said:
I wouldn't include Martial in the trio of fame seekers, seems too quiet and like a loner to me.

The trio that needs seperating are Pogba, Rashford and Lingard.
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Indeed , and as a club we would be much better off without those three .In saying that perhaps if Rashford was freed from the influences of those other two clowns he might still reach his potential . . If Lingard and Rashford were not English they would be much more under the spotlight for their behavior and abject performances than they are .
 
Cassidy said:
Considering he is not in contention for any of the top jobs that became available....
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Meanwhile he'll sit in a studio and get paid stupid amounts of money for talking about football. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
 
abdo99 said:
Spend the 2nd highest budget. Finish 2nd. 19 points off the 1st . Great achievement Mourinho!!
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81 feckin points. When was the last time we had that?

Champagne Football said:
He's finished at the top and he's in denial about it. But this interview was not as bitter and childish as his usual interviews. Sounds like he's at peace with himself now that we are doing so badly
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What does this have to do with him being finished at the top.

WR10 said:
What a guy hey? Gets paid 20 million to leave a burning house and then goes on to make a job out of ‘I told you so’ proving everyone wrong. He’s a serial winner
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Well he did tell us so. I don't understand what a severance package has to do with the fact that he was right about the club being in shambles, and the players not having any fire.



Looks like Caf posters just see any thread with the name Mourinho being bumped up, click on it, shit on him, then leave. Yeah he was a cry baby ever since our Board blocked his Summer signings, and was a pain to watch in all press conferences. And yes his football wasn't the attacking, United football we want to see. But for Christ's sake, can you stop pretending like he didn't give us our best season in the last 6 years. The whining and crying over Mourinho has to stop. It's getting old really. And frankly sounds stupid now that he has been proved right.
 
Marcelinho87 said:
I wouldn't include Martial in the trio of fame seekers, seems too quiet and like a loner to me.

The trio that needs seperating are Pogba, Rashford and Lingard.
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Tbf I was thinking of Rashford as one who's a follower and probably would do much better with the others gone. In the case of Martial I think it's more his lazy attitude that he's too good to try and that will also rub off.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
Meanwhile he'll sit in a studio and get paid stupid amounts of money for talking about football. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
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Well if he wants a new career as a pundit then thats fine. Big if that...
 
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