Nabil Fekir | Lyon 2017/18 perfomances

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Scored his 8th and 9th goal of the season(behing only Falcao and Cavani) and 10 in all comps plus 4assists.
He is the third most prolific dribbler in europe, and plays behind the striker. What do you guys think?


 
Scored his 8th and 9th goal of the season(behing only Falcao and Cavani) and 10 in all comps plus 4assists.
He is the third most prolific dribbler in europe, and plays behind the striker. What do you guys think?




3 players from ligue 1 on that list............

Still Fekir is a talented player who probably needs two more full hopefully injury free seasons at Lyon before leaving at the same age as Lacazette.
 
was always a talent just a question of if he could match end product with it. Seemingly well on course this season.
 
I'm surprised at how well he has rediscovered his form after that nasty cruciate ligament injury he suffered in 2015/2016.
 
Just to add some fuel to the fire - Fekir in 2015: “Playing for Manchester United one day? Why not. it's a club that makes you dream, but we're not there yet,” said Fekir.
 
He's my favourite player in the world and my number 1 signing this summer.

He's the perfect 10 for me. He can come deep and create and also loves getting in the box to score. Unlike Mkhi and Mata he's very good at shielding the ball so isn't prone to drifting out of games when the team isn't playing well. He's the one to step up when the going gets tough. Also, even though he's a good dribbler, he isn't the Messi/Neymar type who are constantly running at players - it's more that he's just very good at getting past players when needing to.

Another huge plus is that he works incredibly hard defensively. He's constantly pressing the opposition and, since Lyon play a two man midfield meaning they're sometimes outnumbered, he's also very good at reading runs into open space and closing them down/tracking back. As far as #10s go, he's 3rd in tackles with 17 (compared to Mkhi's 8 who's known for his hard work, too) and is 2nd in total attempted tackles with 28 - 8 more than Mkhi. He's joint 4th in interceptions made (same as Mkhi) as well.

Looking at his attacking stats compared to other #10s, he's 4th in key passes, 4th in assists, and 1st in goals scored - these stats are based on players playing purely in the #10 role so, for example, Dybala's stats aren't complete here. In comparison to another highly rated 10 in Dybala who has 13 goals and 2 assists in total, Fekir has 11 goals and 4 assists.

He reminds me of a mix of Tevez (a hard working supporting forward) and David Silva (a creator who you just can't dispossess 90% of the time).
 
He's 24, what's he been up to the last 5 years?

He was initially pushed aside by Lyon even though he was highly rated, then he cameback and played extremely well. Two seasons ago he did his knee with France.
 
He's 24, what's he been up to the last 5 years?
I hadn't really watched him at all before his injury but, as @JPRouve said, he got a really bad injury a couple of seasons ago that took him out the whole season, came back last year and was mainly just getting back into the groove whilst still showing signs of his early promise, and is playing great this year.
 
was always a talent just a question of if he could match end product with it. Seemingly well on course this season.
Pretty sure his end product was there before, it's just that the awful ACL injury derailed his career early on, and it took him time to recover from that. I'm glad to see him doing well, I wanted us to sign him before that ACL injury, and now that we actually need a #10 again, it makes a lot of sense to go after him again.
 
If we are a big club, we should sign a proven WC player like Griezmann or maybe Dybala.
 
If we are a big club, we should sign a proven WC player like Griezmann or maybe Dybala.
Griez hasn't had the best season, and Dybala would probably cost an arm and a leg. Fekir is affordable, and has sky high potential. Could have a Hazard-esque trajectory if he comes to the Premier League.
 
If we are a big club, we should sign a proven WC player like Griezmann or maybe Dybala.
Signing world class players isn't always the way to go. Look at the attack City built around 10-12 with Touré, Silva, Nasri, Tevez, Aguero, Dzeko - I wouldn't say any of them were world class but they built a nice attack with them. Our attack in 07-08 was Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez and Saha and none of them were world class when bought. What we really need is to sort out our attacking coaching and add good players that'd fit that style.

Personally, I'd take Fekir over Griezmann everyday and would prefer Fekir to Dybala, too, but what we need more than anything is for us as a club to sort out how we coach our attack because we've been predictable for years.
 
He's my favourite player in the world and my number 1 signing this summer.

He's the perfect 10 for me. He can come deep and create and also loves getting in the box to score. Unlike Mkhi and Mata he's very good at shielding the ball so isn't prone to drifting out of games when the team isn't playing well. He's the one to step up when the going gets tough. Also, even though he's a good dribbler, he isn't the Messi/Neymar type who are constantly running at players - it's more that he's just very good at getting past players when needing to.

Another huge plus is that he works incredibly hard defensively. He's constantly pressing the opposition and, since Lyon play a two man midfield meaning they're sometimes outnumbered, he's also very good at reading runs into open space and closing them down/tracking back. As far as #10s go, he's 3rd in tackles with 17 (compared to Mkhi's 8 who's known for his hard work, too) and is 2nd in total attempted tackles with 28 - 8 more than Mkhi. He's joint 4th in interceptions made (same as Mkhi) as well.

Looking at his attacking stats compared to other #10s, he's 4th in key passes, 4th in assists, and 1st in goals scored - these stats are based on players playing purely in the #10 role so, for example, Dybala's stats aren't complete here. In comparison to another highly rated 10 in Dybala who has 13 goals and 2 assists in total, Fekir has 11 goals and 4 assists.

He reminds me of a mix of Tevez (a hard working supporting forward) and David Silva (a creator who you just can't dispossess 90% of the time).
Sounds good to me. Sign him up!
 
He's my favourite player in the world and my number 1 signing this summer.

He's the perfect 10 for me. He can come deep and create and also loves getting in the box to score. Unlike Mkhi and Mata he's very good at shielding the ball so isn't prone to drifting out of games when the team isn't playing well. He's the one to step up when the going gets tough. Also, even though he's a good dribbler, he isn't the Messi/Neymar type who are constantly running at players - it's more that he's just very good at getting past players when needing to.

Another huge plus is that he works incredibly hard defensively. He's constantly pressing the opposition and, since Lyon play a two man midfield meaning they're sometimes outnumbered, he's also very good at reading runs into open space and closing them down/tracking back. As far as #10s go, he's 3rd in tackles with 17 (compared to Mkhi's 8 who's known for his hard work, too) and is 2nd in total attempted tackles with 28 - 8 more than Mkhi. He's joint 4th in interceptions made (same as Mkhi) as well.

Looking at his attacking stats compared to other #10s, he's 4th in key passes, 4th in assists, and 1st in goals scored - these stats are based on players playing purely in the #10 role so, for example, Dybala's stats aren't complete here. In comparison to another highly rated 10 in Dybala who has 13 goals and 2 assists in total, Fekir has 11 goals and 4 assists.

He reminds me of a mix of Tevez (a hard working supporting forward) and David Silva (a creator who you just can't dispossess 90% of the time).

Just need to write this up in a brochure and send it to Mourinho.
 
Nabil is 24 and how many big games he played ? 0.

I'm french and this guy is only rated by lyon's fans and algerians people...how can you compare him and his 6 CL games ( play-off and group stage ) to Griezmann and Dybala ? :lol:
 
So you wouldn't take Mane from his Southampton days given a choice?

If I had the choice between Mané or a proven WC player ? The WC player...

Sanches or Pogba ? Pogba ! ( a lot of people here wanted Renato and tought that Pogba was the second choice :eek: )

Fekir or Griezmann/Dybala ? Griezmann/Dybala !

It's obvious :wenger:
 
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If I had the choice between Mané or a proven WC player ? The WC player...

Sanches or Pogba ? Pogba ! ( a lot of people here wanted Renato and tought that Pogba was the second choice :eek: )

Fekir or Griezmann/Dybala ? Griezmann/Dybala !

It's obvious :wenger:
It's not "obvious" though. If we'd have taken that route, we would never have signed Solskjaer or Ronaldo or Rooney, as none were "proven WC players" when we took the gamble on them.
 
The notion that, we, Manchester United, could get Fekir for a low-key figure is risible. He's a crown jewel and he's only 24 - Lyon would demand mega money for him and he is worth it, too, if you can look past a serious injury in his past, that is.

A few years back, I hoped we would get him, Dembele and Gundogan before they went on to become world stars. Since then, Fekir has a major injury, Gundogan fell apart and Dembele refused us and a host of top clubs to go off to Dortmund. Fekir is the only one from the trio not to make the move to a club who will triple or quadruple his wages, and, he seems to be well over his injury and showing no psychological trauma from it as he's twisting and turning without a second thought. With this in mind, he has to be a major target for the big clubs either this winter window or in the summer.

He has numerous assets we are in need of:

- Extremely difficult to dispossess. This means those around him can run ahead of the ball without hesitation as he can be relied upon to shield, weave, twist, turn and dribble his way out of practically any situation. He's rated as one of the best dribblers in the world because he has that innate ability to see, and exploit, any gaps and openings or wrong foot opposing players the second they come into his space to try and tackle him. He draws a huge amount of fouls or otherwise gets to wherever it is he wants to go and he takes two players to really commit to have any chance of getting the ball off him as one has to go in for the initial tackle and the other is there to try and sweep up on reaction, which often ends in failure, too. In relation to us, it means our forwards can make runs away from the ball and look to exploit the space he creates via the sheer panic his approach play generates. It also means our midfield can push up and really impose themselves as well.

- Brilliant at one and two touch combination play. This guy is Pogba's, Mkhitarayan's and Martial's perfect foil as he knits build-up together and enables that rapid pinging of possession-based football together perfectly. He's also able to break from that and go on a solo run at any given moment, which makes dealing with him absolutely vital for the opposition.

- Frees up Pogba - If Pogba has Matic behind him and Fekir in front, the platform to really impose himself on games is set. You can't double-team both he and Fekir, and whichever one has only a single man on him is going to flourish. Fekir, playing further up the pitch, is a more immediate danger than Pogba to contend with, so logically is the one teams are going to swarm and once they do that, they are leaving holes all over the place which someone with Pogba's passing prowess can easily take advantage of. Pogba and Fekir in the same midfield would take an extreme show of tactical nous and defensive skill to stop over 90 minutes and so much of the oppositions' time would be devoted to that that overlapping runners at full-back and those ahead of the ball would have the perfect foundations to go on and really impose themselves on a game.

- Quality on set pieces - Has power and whip on his corners... and he beats the first man. A threat on free kicks, and he's not afraid to take penalties...

- Proactive. He makes things happen, be it a foul, a corner, a chance on goal because he will encroach until he is confronted, which forces centre-backs and midfielders to make split decisions on what to do before he's in the box.

- Not a bottler or supplementary player. He doesn't need others to be doing well to do his own thing. It helps, but it's not essential - he's not the type that just goes down with the ship all passively and without fight, which can't be said for a few #10's out there.

- A threat from distance. Via both his passing and shooting, which means he has to be closed down quickly before he lets rip, which again plays into his hands because he wants to be engaged so that he can skip past that man and take him out of the game. If a DM or CB is rushing out to meet him, then Lukaku immediately has a channel and an angled run to use.

- Works hard defensively.

- Scores goals. He'll get himself into the box when he sees the chance to do so. Has the awareness to follow-in for rebounds and the like.

- Creative and persistent. Not one to let his head drop in times when things aren't going well for him or the team, and like a few others in the game, always capable of a moment of magic to turn a game, be it a pass, dribble or shot.

- Spots and plays a key pass. Not afraid to progress the ball or set some one of into space. Doesn't have the hesitancy or inconsistency in rapid play we've become all to familiar with.

My biggest concern with Fekir would be injuries. Not necessarily down to his big injury, but more that he gets clattered, a lot, and it surely is going to take its toll sooner or later. In the PL, he would draw a lot of fouls and cumulative damage is something that befalls a lot of superb dribblers. Having said that, I'd have him here in a heartbeat, because outside of the injury concerns, he ticks every box we are lacking in as a squad. He was well on his way to being a world class player before the injury, and he has the talent and seems to have lost none of what he was mentally or physically, so there's no reason why he cannot keep going on the same trajectory and fulfill his immense potential.

He's the kind of player the other team has to plan for and the tactical advantages for his own side because of that are considerable. If we want our very own play-making talent to rival the De Bruyne's, Silva's, Hazard's, Oezil's (when he can be arsed), Countinho's, Eriksen's of the league, then this is the man for the job and if he goes somewhere else and becomes a world renowned player, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
 
Darn you! I was about to make this thread :D
I was suprised he doesn't have his own thread, and knew someone was going to create one the moment I saw his two goal perfomance. Trust me, I was in a hurry when creating the thread.
 
Pretty much echos my opinion on him there as well @Fortitude :)

I know what you mean with the injury paragraph. He's not that prone to getting injured but, when you watch him, because he's good under pressure at shielding the ball and is an effective dribbler, opposition players usually go in very rough on him and he usually ends up needing a little bit of treatment from the physio most games. Sometimes I feel like he makes the most of it as to make a point to the ref that they're going too far which I can understand. Like you, though, it doesn't put me off wanting him. Sure, it could be a risk, but he's good enough to warrant taking such risk.

I'd also add he's quite the versatile player. His main position is that of a #10 but I've seen him play as a CM and CF to a good standard, too. I've heard he isn't the best on the right but, with his skillset and a little adjusting, I could see him doing well there as well.

I was suprised he doesn't have his own thread, and knew someone was going to create one the moment I saw his two goal perfomance. Trust me, I was in a hurry when creating the thread.
:lol: I was going to make one a while ago but never got round to it. It's just nice to see him get some love regardless. :D

Just need to write this up in a brochure and send it to Mourinho.
If only it were that simple! :D
 
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His strenghts and weaknesses according to Whoscored.
Very strong
  • key passes
  • crossing
  • dribbling

Strong
  • finishing
  • long shots
  • set-pieces
  • holding the ball
Weaknesses
  • defensive contributions
Style of play
  • likes to dribble
  • likes to cross
  • counterattacking threat
  • likes to do lay-off
  • gets fouled often
Positions
  • AM right
  • AM center
  • SS
  • CF
Fits us like glove huh?
 
Regarding "defensive contributions" being a weakness of his on Whoscored, I have to completely disagree with that, and seriously wonder how they came to that conclusion. He's one of the most hard working attackers out there.

Everything else is pretty much spot on even though I wouldn't label his crossing as one of his best strengths.
 
Regarding "defensive contributions" being a weakness of his on Whoscored, I have to completely disagree with that, and seriously wonder how they came to that conclusion. He's one of the most hard working attackers out there.

Everything else is pretty much spot on even though I wouldn't label his crossing as one of his best strengths.
They use stats. Tackles won and all that.
 
He reminds me of Xavi, I imagine he's modelled some of his game on him - his half turn, shielding the ball etc.
 
They use stats. Tackles won and all that.
I know which is why I'm bamboozled! Not only can you see how hard he works defensively by just watching him but the stats back that up, too! It's not a big deal; I just find it strange.
 
I want him here before his injury..I would take him ahead of Griezman if he shows the same form
 
Pretty much echos my opinion on him there as well @Fortitude :)

I know what you mean with the injury paragraph. He's not that prone to getting injured but, when you watch him, because he's good under pressure at shielding the ball and is an effective dribbler, opposition players usually go in very rough on him and he usually ends up needing a little bit of treatment from the physio most games. Sometimes I feel like he makes the most of it as to make a point to the ref that they're going too far which I can understand. Like you, though, it doesn't put me off wanting him. Sure, it could be a risk, but he's good enough to warrant taking such risk.

I'd also add he's quite the versatile player. His main position is that of a #10 but I've seen him play as a CM and CF to a good standard, too. I've heard he isn't the best on the right but, with his skillset and a little adjusting, I could see him doing well there as well.
In a few player docs and interviews over the years, I've seen the state of the ankles and shins of skilled attacking players and it's quite ridiculous how many individual scars and marks they amass over years of being hacked and grazed etc. It's no wonder some of them break down as they do. Fekir has held up well so far, but it wouldn't be much of a surprise if he breaks down in the future. He's no Reus, and he's very robust, but you can never tell with these kind of players when the tipping point is reached. Still as said, it's no reason not to go after him, and more of a cautionary thought than anything else as he may well go a career with no issues whatsoever - it just wouldn't be a surprise if he didn't, especially as his star rises and he gets even more 'special' attention.

That matador style of his is why I mention it for him in particular because he goads and goads to the point he winds players trying to get the ball off him up, and he's humiliating them a lot of the time, so if anyone is going to get a retaliatory nibble or plain obvious hack, it's him.

Didn't mention his versatility because I see him as only going into other roles in an injury crisis. He's too slow (for me) to be out wide and his game isn't really suited to either CM or CF even if he can slot in there in a pinch.
 
lyon everton - plays 63mins
Should be tearing Everton a new one tonight in the EL, if anyone's interested.
 
Look at how good he is under pressure. Back helping the defence and he's as cool as you like. Can't dispossess him.
 
Signing world class players isn't always the way to go. Look at the attack City built around 10-12 with Touré, Silva, Nasri, Tevez, Aguero, Dzeko - I wouldn't say any of them were world class but they built a nice attack with them. Our attack in 07-08 was Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez and Saha and none of them were world class when bought. What we really need is to sort out our attacking coaching and add good players that'd fit that style.

Personally, I'd take Fekir over Griezmann everyday and would prefer Fekir to Dybala, too, but what we need more than anything is for us as a club to sort out how we coach our attack because we've been predictable for years.

In 2012 you wouldnt say Toure, Silva, Tevez or Aguero were world class?