balaks
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Not you, balaks did and my post was for him.
Oh ok, I wasnt dismissing Coutinho - he is a good player who can be excellent. I just happen to think Eriksen is a much better player overall.
Not you, balaks did and my post was for him.
He played as much in midfield as Alli did when Poch was messing about with the tactics. Their attacking game suffered with that formation.I think he can, he's one of the smartest players I've seen in the past few years with terrific understanding of the game, and a similar skillset to Modric', he is already playing in midfield more often now so I personally think he can, yes. Not sure if that's what on his path though.
This isnt really true I think, Modric used to play at no 10 at Spurs before moving the CM. Eriksen hasnt always played at CAM. At Ajax from the youth teams to the first team we play in a 433 system with a CVM, so no CAM. Eriksen played as an 8, and not as a 10, when moved to Tottenham, used as a 10 and also did that quite comfortably. I do think he can make that step in the future, as the Tottenham fan said, he gets moved back during matches and in years it will give him more defensive and tactical nouse. With experience I do think he can move a line back, maybe not to Modric' standard but I wouldnt be surprised at all.He played as much in midfield as Alli did when Poch was messing about with the tactics. Their attacking game suffered with that formation.
Tottenham play best when Eriksen is put into his best position. When he's not, the attack goes down a notch in quality. Modric has been playing his position his whole life. Eriksen would not be able to perform closely to the same standard similarly to watching Rooney in MC as opposed to behind the striker.
This isnt really true I think, Modric used to play at no 10 at Spurs before moving the CM. Eriksen hasnt always played at CAM. At Ajax from the youth teams to the first team we play in a 433 system with a CVM, so no CAM. Eriksen played as an 8, and not as a 10, when moved to Tottenham, used as a 10 and also did that quite comfortably. I do think he can make that step in the future, as the Tottenham fan said, he gets moved back during matches and in years it will give him more defensive and tactical nouse. With experience I do think he can move a line back, maybe not to Modric' standard but I wouldnt be surprised at all.
Didn't say that Eriksen was always an AMC. Said he was at his best there. He's wasted anywhere else and a big reason why Spurs are doing so well know is that he's consistently playing his game in front of the midfield.This isnt really true I think, Modric used to play at no 10 at Spurs before moving the CM. Eriksen hasnt always played at CAM. At Ajax from the youth teams to the first team we play in a 433 system with a CVM, so no CAM. Eriksen played as an 8, and not as a 10, when moved to Tottenham, used as a 10 and also did that quite comfortably. I do think he can make that step in the future, as the Tottenham fan said, he gets moved back during matches and in years it will give him more defensive and tactical nouse. With experience I do think he can move a line back, maybe not to Modric' standard but I wouldnt be surprised at all.
Eriksen played the same position in the CL vs teams like Real, City, Dortmund and it was no problem. Idem dito for Pirlo, doesnt really have that tenacity too neither did Kroos have in his younger years who also started out as a no 10.Ajax is different though, no premier league team plays that kind of attacking midfield. Even Ajax's defensive midfielder tends to be weak defensively. He'd only get away playing in that position in a team like Barcelona perhaps who play on possession. Modric has a physical tenacity that Eriksen doesn't.
Obviously, CAM is his best position atm but that position might get difficult when he becomes older.Didn't say that Eriksen was always an AMC. Said he was at his best there. He's wasted anywhere else and a big reason why Spurs are doing so well know is that he's consistently playing his game in front of the midfield.
Modric has never played as AMC beside an odd game here and there. If you want to count at most 5 games a season in a different position as playing there then be my guest. I won't.
It will get harder when he gets older but the Modric role is even more difficult. He'll have to go deeper if movement becomes a problem (which it won't for years to come).Obviously, CAM is his best position atm but that position might get difficult when he becomes older.
He did play more than 5 games at no 10 fwiw, then played left wing and under Redknapp moved central.
Modric is the same, he just gets more recognition due to playing in a better team where he can take care of his role, and let everyone else focus on theirs. in England there's a huge desire for midfielders to score goals and have final third end product. We see how Pogba gets a downgrade cause he hasn't scored a huge amount of goals. The only thing that shields a player from such criticism is if the player has a huge engine and adds 'steel'. If a midfielder doesn't score all that many goals he isn't rated higher. You can look at Modric in depth statistically and he's absolutely not better than he was at spurs. In fact the best performance I've ever seen from him (vs Spain 2012) came before he was a Madrid player.I wasn't comparing the two by their skills or styles. I just meant the situation. Other has and the latter could develop and benefit from training and playing with the best players around every day. Assuming the playing time is granted, I believe the better players you play with the better chance you have to fulfill your potential. I also must say that Modric was highly rated way before the move, but IIRC many, maybe even majority thought that Madrid would be too much for him. He became twice the player he was at Spurs. Many times he's been the best player on the pitch. Same pitch with Ronaldo etc. Development is of course mixture of a young player reaching his physical peak and gaining experience.
PS. Modric > Eriksen
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Obviously, CAM is his best position atm but that position might get difficult when he becomes older.
He did play more than 5 games at no 10 fwiw, then played left wing and under Redknapp moved central.
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No idea why Barcelona aren't in for him over Coutinho. For me, he's the better player.
I read he's their back-up option, but yeah, they should go for him instead... Levy would probably love to do a deal.
Yup, for all the plaudits that the 2 of them get, it is Eriksen who is vital to them challenging for the title and being just a top 6 team. They may struggle to replace Kane, and may replace Alli with difficulty but there hardly is any player who can replace Eriksen. Contributes to defence, fantastic set piece taker, great passing range and scores important goals. Had he been English, his contribution to Spurs side would have been truly appreciatedAs vital as Kane and Alli are, without Eriksen, I think Spurs would struggle to replicate their recent form.
As vital as Kane and Alli are, without Eriksen, I think Spurs would struggle to replicate their recent form.
Indeed. And a Dane will not pressure his English club in the same way as Coutinho will for a move to Barcelona so Barsa wouldn't be able to get him anyway.If they can´t get Coutinho there isn´t a chance in hell they will get Eriksen.. Anything under 250m isn´t enough for Levy..
He doesn't have the flashy reputation like Coutinho for Barcelona fan. They would have to pay that kind of money to get him, but the fan wouldn't like that fee. Coutinho is flashier which is the type of big money signing they need to appease the fans.Last two international games - 3 assists (in FPL even four), two goals. He produced fantastic numbers in all his seasons in the Premier League:
16/17 - 8 goals, 15 assists.
15/16 - 6 goals, 15 assists.
14/15 - 10 goals, 2 assists
13/14 - 7 goals, 9 assists in 25 games.
What a brilliant player he is. Also - still only 25.
It remains a mystery to me why Barca didn't pursue him this summer, especially with Neymar money. For the quoted Coutinho money - being 120+ million Euro - I think Levy would've sold him, and Eriksen would've been great for Barca. Spurs are really lucky to have him, I wonder where he will be next September if he has another unreal season.
On twitter loads of Barca fans wanted Eriksen over Coutinho.He doesn't have the flashy reputation like Coutinho for Barcelona fan. They would have to pay that kind of money to get him, but the fan wouldn't like that fee. Coutinho is flashier which is the type of big money signing they need to appease the fans.
Erikssen IMO is definitely better of the 2 currently.
I say let Eriksen score a goal or two from a freekick, let him drop a few inch-precise assists here and there and he'd be flashy enough. I know Danish market might not be as large as the Brazilian one, but football is also about winning trophies, I guessHe doesn't have the flashy reputation like Coutinho for Barcelona fan. They would have to pay that kind of money to get him, but the fan wouldn't like that fee. Coutinho is flashier which is the type of big money signing they need to appease the fans.
Erikssen IMO is definitely better of the 2 currently.
Without the context of the fee. <100 mil no brainer. Tottenham under Levy unlikely to sell for that. Erikssen for 100mil + I doubt any Barcelona fan would say the same.On twitter loads of Barca fans wanted Eriksen over Coutinho.
You can't ignore the context of what Barcelona was facing in this case. Losing Neymar they had to make flashy signing to appease the fans. Paulinho 40mil when earlier in the summer they tried to bid 60mil for Verratti.I say let Eriksen score a goal or two from a freekick, let him drop a few inch-precise assists here and there and he'd be flashy enough. I know Danish market might not be as large as the Brazilian one, but football is also about winning trophies, I guess
Wasn't there a rumour Barca only got interested in Seri after a storm of tweets from the fans? Few days ago I was laughing at my culé friend he should've sent a few tweets about Eriksen instead of getting into Coutinho hypeOn twitter loads of Barca fans wanted Eriksen over Coutinho.
Good point.Without the context of the fee. <100 mil no brainer. Tottenham under Levy unlikely to sell for that. Erikssen for 100mil + I doubt any Barcelona fan would say the same.
Not sure they'd only sell to Real. I think Levy would prefer selling to a foreign club than within the league. Eriksen wouldn't really fit at Real given the players they have. They're stacked.Wasn't there a rumour Barca only got interested in Seri after a storm of tweets from the fans? Few days ago I was laughing at my culé friend he should've sent a few tweets about Eriksen instead of getting into Coutinho hype
But also from Barca fans who don't follow Premier League that closely I could expect a bit of ignorance when it comes to Levy and how Spurs sell their players. Many could be surprised Eriksen wouldn't be any cheaper than Coutinho.
Anyway, isn't it a thing that Spurs only sell to Real? After Bale and Modrić, could Eriksen go there to?
I'm fully aware of that, but since they spent astronomical money on Dembele - a boy who's supposed to tear a new one on the wing and along with Mbappe the flashiest available youngster - they could do with a bit of logic and pragmatism, maybe? But honestly, the way Barca is run remains a bit alien and difficult to understand to me.You can't ignore the context of what Barcelona was facing. Losing Neymar they had to make flashy signing to appease the fans. Paulinho 40mil when earlier in the summer they tried to bid 60mil for Verratti.
The current directors at Barcelona seem to be a bit illogical. Given Neymar departure and then publicly criticized the board, they got more desperate to save face as election is close.I'm fully aware of that, but since they spent astronomical money on Dembele - a boy who's supposed to tear a new one on the wing and along with Mbappe the flashiest available youngster - they could do with a bit of logic and pragmatism, maybe? But honestly, the way Barca is run remains a bit alien and difficult to understand to me.
No where near good enough from a technical standpoint for a club like Barca.
He's not better than Coutinho and Barca's philosophy is basically built around how footballers are with the ball at their feet. If Fabregas didn't cut it cause of that there's no chance Eriksen could.Have you seen the players they currently have down there? They don't need tekkers, they need players who impact the game. Better than Coutinho.