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Cina

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So you actually think Fabregas is open to the move and now it's between us and Barcelona?
it would be a really odd bid to make if there was absolutely nothing from the player or his agent saying that they might be open to a move. What the hell would be the point otherwise?
 

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From the Telegraph 13/06/2013

"I've always said that I'm happy at Barca. Whoever says that I'm leaving doesn't know me and has never spoken with me.
"Nor with my agent, because he knows that I don't want him to talk with other people about me. I'm very private and I don't even talk about these things with my family.
"If someone says anything that isn't that I want to play at Barca, it's completely absurd."

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:lol: I can feel the small hope creeping in when reading the Twitter thread. Damn it!
 

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From the Telegraph 13/06/2013

"I've always said that I'm happy at Barca. Whoever says that I'm leaving doesn't know me and has never spoken with me.
"Nor with my agent, because he knows that I don't want him to talk with other people about me. I'm very private and I don't even talk about these things with my family.
"If someone says anything that isn't that I want to play at Barca, it's completely absurd."

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You serious? That quote is weeks old.
 

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Moyes talked about how he's inherited transfer plans from Ferguson and Jim Lawlor. Fabregas was a rumoured target from mid last season and hasn't Fergie talked him up in the past? Wouldn't surprise if this bid was planned even before Moyes took over, and he's just given it the greenlight.
 

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Just like the Suarez deal, there has been a massive, deliberate leak on at least one side.
That's what has me skeptical of a deal materialising to be honest. The apparent openness in revealing we've lodged a bid is very unlike United. On the other hand, if it's been revealed as to appease the fans and to suggest we're at least looking to reinforce the midfield, then nothing good can really come of it should the bid get rejected. In fact, we'd come off looking stupid, bidding for an unobtainable player.
 

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Cheers pal, least someone here has faith and abit of positive thinking. We're all turning into a forum of Nevillers.
Hold on a minute here. I didn't believe the Thiago signing was ever on. I was right. I believe there is more substance to this. I'm far from negative, in fact I'm more positive about our club and what it has to offer potential signings than many on here.
 

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Great. We definitely need to sell Anderson now.

We can't have him shitting on our own player.

Perhaps we can change it to and he shits in his handbagggggggggggggggggggggg
 

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Latest from Guillem Balague, who I thought was rubbish yesterday but who I now believe is amazing because he's written what I want to read:


Manchester United just put on the table an offer of 30 million euros for Cesc Fabregas. David Moyes, who does not have signing limit, want the best midfielder that can adapt to the game that aims to deliver at his new club and has identified Fabregas as the ideal. Moyes signing Thiago thought but was not sure he could adapt to the Premiership. Cesc, of course, has sufficient experience in the Premiership and efficiency as a passer, organizer and proven scorer. The new Manchester United's coach told his board that if it was true that there was money for anything, to be launched not by Thiago, but Cesc.

The fact is that the British would not a similar effort if they did not believe have a real choice to be made with the footballer. Barcelona, ​​who suddenly threatened and management model, will close in band: the player has a buyout clause of 200 million euros and in 2011, on his return to Barça signed a five-year contract .

What will the player? These market movements are not performed without the player has any notion that it will perform. What can convince Fabregas? The arrival of Neymar, who explained exclusively as the AS, charges more than Messi and therefore is the best paid staff, the balance seems to have unstabilized template. During the beginning of summer it was rumored that the City and United went for Cesc, but not confirmed until now the first offer for the player.
 

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I don't get why Barca has to reject anything publicly just because United has leaked an alleged bid for Fabregas?

Their "silence" doesn't say shit to be honest.
I find this situation very, very weird. Only a month ago (or even less!) Cesc came out and said he had no intention of leaving and Barca didn't give any indication they would sell but I doubt our guys would have made a formal bid if they didn't get any sort of willingness to negotiate from either the player or the club.

In that case we might as well just start a scatter-gun bid approach and hope one of them stick.
 

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From the Telegraph 13/06/2013

"I've always said that I'm happy at Barca. Whoever says that I'm leaving doesn't know me and has never spoken with me.
"Nor with my agent, because he knows that I don't want him to talk with other people about me. I'm very private and I don't even talk about these things with my family.
"If someone says anything that isn't that I want to play at Barca, it's completely absurd."

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If anything it's even more on imo. We have made an official bid after those quotes a few weeks ago, something must have changed I fail to believe we have just thrown a random bid for him knowing there's no chance he'd join. These rumours have been going on for weeks, im sure we would have held some sort of discussions with Cesc's camp.
 

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Great. We definitely need to sell Anderson now.

We can't have him shitting on our own player.

Perhaps we can change it to and he shits in his handbagggggggggggggggggggggg

No we just need to come up with another player that fits for him to shit on!
 

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Great. We definitely need to sell Anderson now.

We can't have him shitting on our own player.

Perhaps we can change it to and he shits in his handbagggggggggggggggggggggg


Anderson has has a fair few car crashes hasn't he?

"And he shits on autoglass"... ?
 

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That's what has me skeptical of a deal materialising to be honest. The apparent openness in revealing we've lodged a bid is very unlike United. On the other hand, if it's been revealed as to appease the fans and to suggest we're at least looking to reinforce the midfield, then nothing good can really come of it should the bid get rejected. In fact, we'd come off looking stupid, bidding for an unobtainable player.

I know Barcelona are awful in the transfer market, but selling Fabregas after Thiago would just be absolutely mental, and that above any other reason is why I suspect it's unlikely.
 

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Even though I still think there's no chance of him coming.. a few transfers might rely on this one. If we buy fabregas, that gives Barca the funds to bring in Thiago Silva, which gives PSG the space to bring in Marquinhos, and gives Roma the funds to bring in Strootman. Could be best for everyone involved for us to get Cesc! Even Chelsea would probably benefit, with us no longer needing Rooney if we get him.
Muppet season indeed :lol:
 

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If we were actually being serious about this, why bid £25mil? I mean, I know the idea is to start low... but come on.

The longer it drags on, the more chance you have of City/Chelsea wanting a piece.
 

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And I can't help myself
I am going crazy
I cannot turn my back
I got to face the fact
Life without Fab is hazy

I've had now five drafts of trying to convey how awful that is but none could do it justice.
 

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I don't see any chance of this deal happening at all mate. I'm already disappointed in myself for getting excited about the initial Thiago 'interest'.

You're no fun then. Didn't you just tweet that you'd take Fabregas? I think you are getting more excited than you are letting on?
 

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So, we've launched a bid (presumably a preliminary one) based on talks (informal or otherwise) with the player, his agent and/or the club. Good. But the timing is still puzzling. Isn't it awfully strange that we, after having done our homework properly, having been in for Fabregas for who knows how long (him being our main priority), finally make a bid the day after Thiago reaches an agreement with Bayern? Is this coincidental? Or are the two transfers somehow connected in a way which makes it beneficial for us to wait until Thiago's exit has been confirmed?

I don't get this, honestly. I'm not buying the "saving face by making pointless bid" theory - I refuse to do that. But can someone please explain why we would wait to launch this bid until now? Again, the timing makes it bloody hard to see the two phenomena (Thiago off to Bayern and us bidding for Fabregas) as having no bearing on each other.
 

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We don't know how far the interest in Thiago extended. All we got from that was shitty ITK's who went from "He'll sign for United end of the week" to "he's always preferred Bayern" in the space of 12 hours.

We may have merely made preliminary inquiries. But you don't go from nowhere to a £26m in the space of a couple of days. We'd have been working on a Fabregas deal much longer than this. Possibly before we were even linked with Thiago.
 

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If we were actually being serious about this, why bid £25mil? I mean, I know the idea is to start low... but come on.

The longer it drags on, the more chance you have of City/Chelsea wanting a piece.
Hardly a terrible bid. They signed him for 35m I believe and his price hasn't gone up since
 

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So, we've launched a bid (presumably a preliminary one) based on talks (informal or otherwise) with the player, his agent and/or the club. Good. But the timing is still puzzling. Isn't it awfully strange that we, after having done our homework properly, having been in for Fabregas for who knows how long (him being our main priority), finally make a bid the day after Thiago reaches an agreement with Bayern? Is this coincidental? Or are the two transfers somehow connected in a way which makes it beneficial for us to wait until Thiago's exit has been confirmed?

I don't get this, honestly. I'm not buying the "saving face by making pointless bid" theory - I refuse to do that. But can someone please explain why we would wait to launch this bid until now? Again, the timing makes it bloody hard to see the two phenomena (Thiago off to Bayern and us bidding for Fabregas) as having no bearing on each other.

We're not very cleaver negotiators?
 

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According to Balague (stop laughing), the prospective use of Neymar has 'destabilised the Barca template'... whatever that means.
 

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If anything it's even more on imo. We have made an official bid after those quotes a few weeks ago, something must have changed I fail to believe we have just thrown a random bid for him knowing there's no chance he'd join. These rumours have been going on for weeks, im sure we would have held some sort of discussions with Cesc's camp.
That's exactly what I'm saying.

On a side note, you know when you have a hangover, and the best cure for it is to just start drinking again. Well this thread is the muppet equivalent of when you start drinking again.
 

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Just like the Suarez deal, there has been a massive, deliberate leak on at least one side.
I just hope that isn't from the Fabregas camp hoping to entice Arsenal to get involved. Fabregas may be interested in a move, but the last thing we need is a player using United to get a move elsewhere. I think this is what Thiago did.
 

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I know Barcelona are awful in the transfer market, but selling Fabregas after Thiago would just be absolutely mental, and that above any other reason is why I suspect it's unlikely.
Don't think it's all that mental. Their midfield is their strongest area, they've spent quite a bit on Neymar and need at least one quality defender. Selling Fabregas would still leave the three favourites Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets. With the likes of dos Santos and Roberto coming through the academy and also Song and Mascherano. I highly doubt Fabregas is not for sale, if the right amount is offered he'd be sold.
 

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According to Balague (stop laughing), the prospective use of Neymar has 'destabilised the Barca template'... whatever that means.
At first I thought it was something to do with the positions and formations, but then he went on to talk money I think. So yeah, whatever that means.
 

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Why the hell would Fabregas want to move to Arsenal? It's nonsensical. They're a club who scrap 4th. Might as well ask if Everton want Rooney back
 
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