Zlatan Ibrahimovic

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22 year old Swedish Ajax forward. Looks to be an amazing talent from what I've seen. Great speed and amazing skills. He's tall and pretty lanky ( almost like Crouch :nervous: ), but plays nothing like it. CLICK HERE to see some of his moves.

I haven't seen too much of him, but I'd say he could be exactly what we need. He definately looks like more of a support striker than an out-and-out striker.

Can anyone who follows Dutch football confirm this for me? What's his goal scoring record like?

The down side is that he said he wants to play for Roma ...
 
You may remember he scored with a rather stylish strike against us during pre-season once.

Very talented. However, the big catch is that his attitude apparently stinks. Someone who has followed him more closely could enlighten you, but from what I've heard his arrogance is a major put-off for any potentially interested clubs.
 
His style is quite similar to Ruud, big, strong, good in the air, hold the ball well..and his quite fast as well

I reckon he would be a very good back up for Ruud. He can play well as a lone striker..
 
He's an arrogant prick,don't like him at all.

But a good player nevertheless,apperently misses too many chances
 
Yeh hes a good player but theres 3 problems, 1 is his attitude, he tends throw his toys out of his pram, from what ive read. The 2nd is that we only play one striker, he likes to play upfront and we will pay big money for him, so he will be expected to play every week, and hes not better than Ruud. The 3rd problem is that his finishing is sometimes quite poor, ive seen him pretty much every game in the CL and some in ther dutch league and he reminds me of Andy Cole in tersm of needing 3 or 4 chances sometimes.
 
Best freefighter in the world!

Sharp elbows as well!

Knocked a defender into the hospital again yesterday...

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rOnaldo[7] said:
His style is quite similar to Ruud, big, strong, good in the air, hold the ball well..and his quite fast as well
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Are you sure about this? From what I've seen, he looks to be very different from Ruud. He's much more nimble.

VanNistlerater said:
The 2nd is that we only play one striker, he likes to play upfront and we will pay big money for him, so he will be expected to play every week, and hes not better than Ruud
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He looks like more of a support striker than an out-and-out striker to me.

Personally, I'd rather have a striker playing behind Ruud than an attacking midfielder.

PSV Rulezzzzz, what can you tell me about this guy? Do you think he'd be a useful addition to United ( Other than the fact that he plays for Ajax :) )
 
One of the more talented young players in Europe, but nevertheless a big cnut from what I've seen.

Serious attitude problem, and a bit of a history with violent conduct on the pitch as well.
If he sorted himself out, he would be a nice addition, but at present he's not the kind of player that I'd want United to be associated with...
 
I think I'll have to agree with Divine...
He's got quite good skills and he's young and all... but he always seems to have a problem with his arms... I think he has given more than 10 elbows in the last 2 1/2 years...

But well... he's very tall and strong, but he's footskills are also very good. He's not a real team player, so I think a combination with Ruud wouldn't work out. And to have him as a replacement for Ruud... nah... he's not that good and I guess his attitude would cause even more trouble when he's benched a lot.

Really I don't think he's the kind of player that you need... He's not MU-material... (and I guess he would suite better in the kind of football Arsenal plays)

If you really want an Ajaks-player to play for your team, than look at Van der Vaart (or maybe Sneijder, though he's a different player)...
 
PSV Rulezzz said:
I think I'll have to agree with Divine...
He's got quite good skills and he's young and all... but he always seems to have a problem with his arms... I think he has given more than 10 elbows in the last 2 1/2 years...

But well... he's very tall and strong, but he's footskills are also very good. He's not a real team player, so I think a combination with Ruud wouldn't work out. And to have him as a replacement for Ruud... nah... he's not that good and I guess his attitude would cause even more trouble when he's benched a lot.

Really I don't think he's the kind of player that you need... He's not MU-material... (and I guess he would suite better in the kind of football Arsenal plays)

If you really want an Ajaks-player to play for your team, than look at Van der Vaart (or maybe Sneijder, though he's a different player)...
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I agree with you there completely.
 
rOnaldo[7] said:
what about Kezman ???
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Like I said quite often he's a class player... but what's worrying me is that he doesn't seem to be able to score in the CL :nervous:
He's a very eager player who is always on the right place at the right time and can shoot from every position.
He played with Ruud for a short period and I guess they could be partners (not great partnership I think, but much better than Zlatan)

But Kezman prefers Spain or Italy and I think he would suite better in those competitions than the PL. (he's very small)
 
PSV Rulezzz said:
Like I said quite often he's a class player... but what's worrying me is that he doesn't seem to be able to score in the CL :nervous:
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Ow, accept against you :D
 
PSV Rulezzz said:
Like I said quite often he's a class player... but what's worrying me is that he doesn't seem to be able to score in the CL :nervous:
He's a very eager player who is always on the right place at the right time and can shoot from every position.
He played with Ruud for a short period and I guess they could be partners (not great partnership I think, but much better than Zlatan)

But Kezman prefers Spain or Italy and I think he would suite better in those competitions than the PL. (he's very small)
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i read the other day that Kezman said he'd like to play for Arsenal

I like Zlatan A... brilliant technique, strong quick..more of a playmaker though

as for his attitude, it wouldnt worry me...if United worried about things like that we'd never have touched Cantona with a bargepole
 
golden_blunder said:
i read the other day that Kezman said he'd like to play for Arsenal

I like Zlatan A... brilliant technique, strong quick..more of a playmaker though

as for his attitude, it wouldnt worry me...if United worried about things like that we'd never have touched Cantona with a bargepole
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Agreed and what is more - great dribbling and a character :drool: :drool: he will knock down some arse cnuts one day :drool:
 
golden_blunder said:
as for his attitude, it wouldnt worry me...if United worried about things like that we'd never have touched Cantona with a bargepole
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Agreed. In fact, many players who play with that kind of swagger have a bit of an arrogant attitude. There's Cantona of course, Di Canio, Henry, Rivaldo ...

While I'm not saying I'd like to have a player with the wrong attitude, if there's anyone who can 'tame' him, it's Sir Alex.

Having said that, I've seen a few of his antics on the pitch and I certainly don't approve of them. Let's just he throws elbows that would go well at Arsenal.
 
Mr. Wood said:
Agreed. In fact, many players who play with that kind of swagger have a bit of an arrogant attitude. There's Cantona of course, Di Canio, Henry, Rivaldo ...

While I'm not saying I'd like to have a player with the wrong attitude, if there's anyone who can 'tame' him, it's Sir Alex.

Having said that, I've seen a few of his antics on the pitch and I certainly don't approve of them. Let's just he throws elbows that would go well at Arsenal.
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hehe Cantona threw kicks that would not have been out of place in a Bruce Lee Movie, punches that wouldnt have been out of place in a boxing ring, and stamps that...errrr....would have been out of place on an envelope.

he shagged team-mates wives at more than one club, had orgies, thumped camera men, called the french Fa all a bunch of "shits", smashed his football boots into the face of his own goalkeeping colleague in training and spouted crap about seagulls following trawlers..

yet everyone of us would still have him in the United side

my point being theres a lot who would not have either Zlatan A, P Kluivert etc because of an 'attitude' problem they read about somewhere, yet everyone of them cheered Cantona

pot, kettle, black, etc ;)
 
PSV Rulezzz said:
But well... he's very tall and strong, but he's footskills are also very good. He's not a real team player, so I think a combination with Ruud wouldn't work out. And to have him as a replacement for Ruud... nah... he's not that good and I guess his attitude would cause even more trouble when he's benched a lot.
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I have to agree. Zlatan needs to be the main striker, yet I don't think he's suited to be a lone striker. He has the qualities needed though, he's strong and good with the ball. I don't think he'd be prepared to work as much without the ball as Ruud does. As a lone striker you need to be in a good position all the time and without the ball Zlatan isn't good and he's rather lazy.

A player like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer would be a perfect partner for Zlatan IMO (though Zlatan wouldn't be a perfect partner for Ole, if you know what I mean). Someone who accepts to be the "second" striker, someone who is prepared to work 100% for his strike partner and someone who is also a good goalscorer.

He's very talented Zlatan but he needs to work on his attitude and he's got a long way to go before he's considered more than talented. feck, even Marcus Allbäck (Aston Villa) is prefered to Zlatan by the Swedish national team coaches. That should tell you something.

If we were to buy a Swedish striker I would recommend Niklas Skoog. He's by far the best striker in the Swedish league and he's got all the qualities you'd need in a back up striker for Ruud. A team player first of all Skoog is still a very good goal scorer. I don't know if he's United quality though as he hasn't played any international matches (for some reason the national team coaches doesn't seem to rate him).
 
PSV Rulezzz said:
Best freefighter in the world!

Sharp elbows as well!

Knocked a defender into the hospital again yesterday...

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I was watching that game with a mate and was pointing out Zlatan as a talented but dirty forward, and next thing he clobbered Hofland. Mido was another dirty one, but they got rid of him.

Zlatan is very good at holding the ball up, he has a great touch and he's a big dirty fecker of course- he must be difficult for defenders.
Still playing in the dutch league, I'd be looking for a big scoring record before considering him for United, which he doesn't have yet.
 
Gabe said:
I was watching that game with a mate and was pointing out Zlatan as a talented but dirty forward, and next thing he clobbered Hofland. Mido was another dirty one, but they got rid of him.

Zlatan is very good at holding the ball up, he has a great touch and he's a big dirty fecker of course- he must be difficult for defenders.
Still playing in the dutch league, I'd be looking for a big scoring record before considering him for United, which he doesn't have yet.
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Ronaldinho scored 11 goals for PSV last season and Fergie tried to sign him.

It looks like we're more interested in a creative player than a goal scorer.
 
osterdal said:
1 feck, even Marcus Allbäck (Aston Villa) is prefered to Zlatan by the Swedish national team coaches. That should tell you something.

2 If we were to buy a Swedish striker I would recommend Niklas Skoog. He's by far the best striker in the Swedish league and he's got all the qualities you'd need in a back up striker for Ruud. A team player first of all Skoog is still a very good goal scorer. I don't know if he's United quality though as he hasn't played any international matches (for some reason the national team coaches doesn't seem to rate him).
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1. Doesn´t that say more about the coaches than the player?

2. You must be joking, Skoog in United? Not something I like to see. Still a good player, though.
 
Slippy said:
1. Doesn´t that say more about the coaches than the player?

2. You must be joking, Skoog in United? Not something I like to see. Still a good player, though.
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1. You could say that but the fact is that Zlatan has never impressed for the national team. And him "stealing" a penalty against San Marino was never going to impress the coaches.

2. Nah, I don't think we should buy him but I would like to see him play with and against better players. Performances in the Swedish league are hard to rate but I believe that he at least could be a decent Premier Leauge striker. But then again, decent is far from United quality.
 
osterdal said:
1. You could say that but the fact is that Zlatan has never impressed for the national team. And him "stealing" a penalty against San Marino was never going to impress the coaches.

2. Nah, I don't think we should buy him but I would like to see him play with and against better players. Performances in the Swedish league are hard to rate but I believe that he at least could be a decent Premier Leauge striker. But then again, decent is far from United quality.
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I agree about him not never really impressed in the national team, and the penalty incident was indeed disgraceful. However I don´t think a player of Zlatans range should be on the bench when a mål missare as Allbäck can play bad for more or less 2 years and still be in the starting 11.
 
I do not even remotely rate this clown, crap attitude, crap shooting, lazy and just all round useless really.
 
Mr. Wood said:
Ronaldinho scored 11 goals for PSV last season and Fergie tried to sign him.

It looks like we're more interested in a creative player than a goal scorer.
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Ronaldinho at PSV? :eek: Then give us the money :D

(I think you mean Robben ;))
 
There is no one in the premier better then him.
He scores amazing goals..he`s tall quick and have skills..there arent any stikers in the premier that have skills(ability) like him...
 
rOnaldo[7] said:
yeah..what about arjen robben..is he as good as RVDV ???
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They are different players...
Robben is a bit out of form at the moment, but he's a great talent.
Almost indefendable coz you don't know what he'll do next when he has the ball.
He's very young (19), is very fast, has a great technique and a good shot.
He plays mostly from the left, but he can play from the right as well (he changes a lot with Rommedahl during the game), but his favourite position is behind the striker.
I don't know if they still exist but there have been more topics about him where I posted some movieclips...
 
PSV Rulezzz said:
They are different players...
Robben is a bit out of form at the moment, but he's a great talent.
Almost indefendable coz you don't know what he'll do next when he has the ball.
He's very young (19), is very fast, has a great technique and a good shot.
He plays mostly from the left, but he can play from the right as well (he changes a lot with Rommedahl during the game), but his favourite position is behind the striker.
I don't know if they still exist but there have been more topics about him where I posted some movieclips...
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cool..have not seen him play before..but he's feckin good in Championship Manager :D

maybe we should get him as he would be cheaper compared to RVDV and less competition for him too..
 
rOnaldo[7] said:
cool..have not seen him play before..but he's feckin good in Championship Manager :D

maybe we should get him as he would be cheaper compared to RVDV and less competition for him too..
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Yep, he AWESOME for me in Champ Manager, an under-study to RVN though and Ruud is getting quite old now, and this guy is a PERFECT replacement for him when I want to rest Ruud, and sometimes he plays in Raul's position for me, just behind the main striker, does that fairly well too! WAKE ME UP!!! :)
 
VanNistlerater said:
ive seen those clips of Robben and hes indeed impressive.

PSV, dont you feel a little insulted that other teams fans seem to sniff around your players like your a feeder team?, much the same with Ajax.
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Nah, the situation is just like that...
We're not good enough to play for the big prizes and we can't afford them anymore when they are really good...

We're just starting to see it as an honour that Ruud played for us and that we made him big...

(let's make the best out of the fact that we're not a worldclass team anymore and that the Dutch league is quite shite)
 
Mr. Wood said:
Ronaldinho scored 11 goals for PSV last season and Fergie tried to sign him.

It looks like we're more interested in a creative player than a goal scorer.
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Yes, I'm judging Zlatan as a centre forward, finishing is the measure IMO, I'd be more interested in how many he scores from chances.
For Ajax, Van Der Vaart is that creative/imaginative player, and he's got a great strike too. Certainly I could see us going for him having missed out on Ronaldinho.
 
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