What do you guys think of Fergie's decision to Substitute RVN who is our main goal scoring hope with Forlan who is struggling to get goals when we played Leeds????
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- Thread starter Cantona07
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You sound surprised.
Fergie frequently makes very strange substitutions.
Fergie frequently makes very strange substitutions.
Great substitution in my opinion 
Bringing Solskjaer on is always a strange substitution from SAF!
Originally posted by marchingontogether:
<strong>Great substitution in my opinion
Which no-one asked for.
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Bringing Solskjaer on is always a strange substitution from SAF!
Yes. Because he should start.
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Yes. Because he should start.
Quite the opposite, he should start with RVN and Forlan and then bring Ole on. We might win a few games then.
Whatever.
But we should start with 4-4-2, get back to what we do best, and play as though we're in the EPL again, and not as though we're a European team.
But we should start with 4-4-2, get back to what we do best, and play as though we're in the EPL again, and not as though we're a European team.
The problem is, at the moment, we haven't got the players to play a 4:4:2 formation IMO!
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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Quite the opposite, he should start with RVN and Forlan and then bring Ole on. We might win a few games then.
And what has Forlan done to suggest that he should start alongside RVN instead of Ole ? Unfortunatley Diego has looked totally ineffective in just about all his appearances so far, he doesn't do anything particularly well especially in trying to find the back of the net - an horrendous error to think he could take Cole's place. Incidentally I looked up a biographical insert on Forlan which was a couple of years old whilst he was with Independiente - it described him as a "playmaker" and not a striker. Did Fergie really know what he was buying ? - I think not.
If Diego Forlan was playing for Liverpool, not one person on here would be doing anything other than laugh their socks off.
All this sanctimonious "give him a chance" crap. Get behind the players by all means, but there's definitely double standards at work here.
I think Diego is a good player. I think he could be a real star in midfield, and I wouldn't rule out him becoming reasonably prolific. But I wouldn't bank on it - you can only say it as it is at the time.
All this sanctimonious "give him a chance" crap. Get behind the players by all means, but there's definitely double standards at work here.
I think Diego is a good player. I think he could be a real star in midfield, and I wouldn't rule out him becoming reasonably prolific. But I wouldn't bank on it - you can only say it as it is at the time.
Regarding Forlan, i saw a video of some of the goals he scored when he was n Argentina,,,some of them pure class, breath taking,,he is got pace (or used to) ....god knows what happened to him when he came to England <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
Originally posted by tareq abd albari:
<strong>Regarding Forlan, i saw a video of some of the goals he scored when he was n Argentina,,,some of them pure class, breath taking,,he is got pace (or used to) ....god knows what happened to him when he came to England
he's not exactly started many matches..
maybe he needs a decent run in the team.
The point is no matter how bad Forlan's form is at least he can move with a bit of pace and agility. Ruud especially looks very sluggish and that is, in my opinion, why he isn't looking at all dangerous this season. Carrying a wee bit of weight in my book, either that or a minor injury.
Ole and Ruud don't exactly give defenders a hard time do they? They may be great individually but together their movement is far too predictable and defenders can mark them with relative ease.
Forlan or Giggs down the middle may carry no goal threat, but they do cause the defenders problems and create space for (the now absent) Keane and Scholes to surge into the box.
Ole and Ruud don't exactly give defenders a hard time do they? They may be great individually but together their movement is far too predictable and defenders can mark them with relative ease.
Forlan or Giggs down the middle may carry no goal threat, but they do cause the defenders problems and create space for (the now absent) Keane and Scholes to surge into the box.
After Robinson made the save from Ruud when he was 1 on 1 his head seemed to drop. This wasn't helped by the lack of decent ball. I think he brought Diego on to provide a bit more movement.
Originally posted by Julian Denny:
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And what has Forlan done to suggest that he should start alongside RVN instead of Ole ? Unfortunatley Diego has looked totally ineffective in just about all his appearances so far, he doesn't do anything particularly well especially in trying to find the back of the net - an horrendous error to think he could take Cole's place. Incidentally I looked up a biographical insert on Forlan which was a couple of years old whilst he was with Independiente - it described him as a "playmaker" and not a striker. Did Fergie really know what he was buying ? - I think not.</strong><hr></blockquote>
We should have kept Yorke Dont you think
We should have let Borough sign Forlan. And probably should have let Yorke get his form back or else we should have spent that 7.2mil on a defender. But this is all done now so why not let Forlan go on loan back where he came from and lets see how SAF's new plan to play Scholes as a Striker works
someone pointed out that there is a general lack of pace in our attacks nowadays, which i agree. that's why a packed defense can snuff us out so easily...
we need plenty of movement but ruud tends to play off the shoulders of the last defender. Hence the other striker must make the movement ala Cantona... which sadly is a figment of my dreams currently....
we need plenty of movement but ruud tends to play off the shoulders of the last defender. Hence the other striker must make the movement ala Cantona... which sadly is a figment of my dreams currently....
Originally posted by Cantona07:
<strong>We should have let Borough sign Forlan. And probably should have let Yorke get his form back or else we should have spent that 7.2mil on a defender. But this is all done now so why not let Forlan go on loan back where he came from and lets see how SAF's new plan to play Scholes as a Striker works
I think that Forlan is put under the pressure of first team football too fast. Liverpool keep Baros in the reserve to learn the trade and let him settle in a much less pressure environment, and now they start to get the best from him. However, Fergie threw a youngster signed from SA without any European football experience immediately into the first team as a third striker, which is just doing harm to his confidence and his growth.
I think it needed to be done because we looked very stale in the 2nd half.
Perhaps he could have taken off OGS but with him who knows, because he can turn around a game in an instant.
I just cant wait for Diego to score his 1st goal because I truly belive that after that he is going to really fire !
Perhaps he could have taken off OGS but with him who knows, because he can turn around a game in an instant.
I just cant wait for Diego to score his 1st goal because I truly belive that after that he is going to really fire !
Originally posted by Cantona07:
<strong>We should have let Borough sign Forlan. And probably should have let Yorke get his form back or else we should have spent that 7.2mil on a defender. But this is all done now so why not let Forlan go on loan back where he came from and lets see how SAF's new plan to play Scholes as a Striker works
you should have let 'boro sign forlan and gone for maccarone instead. . .
Originally posted by bazalini:
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Are we allowed say such things?? Sarcralidge
Ban this person from Redcafe - Plastic Fan she is.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Get back to the bogs.
NB: This is no kind of racist comment. I mean of course that Baz should stick to what he does best, namely cleaning public loos.
Originally posted by michael owen's mum:
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you should have let 'boro sign forlan and gone for maccarone instead. . .</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think we'd stick with Forlan