Is there any reason why the Celtic supporters were singing that song before kick off. Is it because of our greatest rivalry is with Liverpool and that was just a dig at our supporters or is there something else. Seemed strange that a scottish team would be singing that song.
You'll never walk alone.
- Thread starter SAred
- Start date
-
Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
Because it's one of Celtic's most famous songs?
Is there any reason why that song in particular? Seens odd that any other team other than Liverpool sing that song especially a team outside of England.
Well back in the day it was a song commonly sung by all of the clubs in England. There's video footage out there of United fans singing it. That Liverpool slowly became associated with it just happened over time, although some would argue that it was heavily affected by the Hillsbrough disaster.
Perhaps a similar thing happened in Scotland, with Celtic slowly becoming the team that was recognised as singing it, and the other teams, not wanting to sing a "Celtic song", stopped doing so.
Just that particular tune I have always associated with Liverpool and only them, so strange hearing from another set of supporters thats not even in England singing that tune.
I didn't know that learn a new thing ever day and thank god United dropped it awful tune.
DE-FENSE! DE-FENSE!
It's more mindless chanting from what i've heard. "Defense, defense, defense" and U.S.A sort of thing going on. It would be like United fans constanty chanting "Rooney, Rooney" without breaking it up with "He Goes By The Name Of".
Football wouldn't be the same without singing.
It's from an American musical!
You'l never walk again.
feck off
feck off.
feck off
feck off.
It was a Celtic anthem before Liverpool took it on according to some Celtic fans' comments I have read in the past.
It was a Liverpool anthem before Celtic took it on according to some Liverpool fans' comments I have read in the past.
They sing it better than Liverpool supporters IMO
Interesting that two of the most cnutish sets of fans in the country both share the same song.
Good shout.
I'd rather walk alone.
Isn't it supposed to be 'You'll never wank alone?'
The song originally derived from a musical called Carousel.
There is a youtube clip from the 1977 FA Cup final where we sang it to the Liverpool fans. I think we were taking the piss though.
That's all I know.
Hope this helps
There is a youtube clip from the 1977 FA Cup final where we sang it to the Liverpool fans. I think we were taking the piss though.
That's all I know.
Hope this helps
A few more things have just come to me:
"You'll Never Walk Alone" is a show tune from the 1945 Rodgers and Hammerstein musical, Carousel.
In the musical, in the second act, Nettie Fowler, the cousin of the female protagonist Julie Jordan, sings "You'll Never Walk Alone" to comfort and encourage Julie when her husband, Billy Bigelow, the male lead, has killed himself after a failed robbery. It is reprised in the final scene to encourage a graduation class of which Louise (their daughter) is a member. Billy attends this ceremony during his return to earth and inspires them with his words of encouragement to assure them of his love.
Christine Johnson, who created the role of Nettie first introduced the song in the original Broadway production, and later Jan Clayton as Julie Jordan reprises it at the end with the chorus joining in. In the film it is sung by Claramae Turner as Nettie (although the weeping Shirley Jones (as Julie) first tries to sing it, but cannot), and later reprised by Ms. Jones and a chorus.
Because the song is included during the graduation finale of the musical, it has become a standard, sung by graduation classes in the United States.
The song is also sung at football clubs around the world, where it is performed by a massed chorus of supporters on matchday; this tradition began at Liverpool F.C. in the early 1960s and later spread to several other clubs.[1]
Besides the recordings of the song on the Carousel cast albums and the film soundtrack, the song has been recorded by many artists as listed below, with notable hit versions made by Frank Sinatra, Judy Garland, Gerry & The Pacemakers, Elvis Presley, and Johnny Cash.
Sporting anthem
Shankly GatesIn England, the song's most successful performance was recorded in 1963 by the Liverpudlian Merseybeat group Gerry and the Pacemakers (peaking at number one in the singles chart for four consecutive weeks). It quickly became the anthem of Liverpool Football Club and is invariably sung by its supporters moments before the start of each home game.[2][3] The words "You'll Never Walk Alone" also feature in the club crest and on the Shankly Gate entrance to the stadium.
According to former player Tommy Smith, Gerry Marsden presented Liverpool manager Bill Shankly with a recording of his upcoming cover single during a pre-season coach trip in the summer of 1963. "Shanks was in awe of what he [had] heard. [...] Football writers from the local newspapers were travelling with our party and, thirsty for a story of any kind between games, filed copy back to their editors to the effect that we had adopted Gerry Marsden's forthcoming single as the club song."[4]
Marsden himself told BBC Radio how, in the nineteen-sixties, the deejay at Anfield would play the top-ten commercial records in ascending order, with the number one single transmitted last, shortly before kickoff. Supporters standing on the Spion Kop terrace would sing along, but once "You'll Never Walk Alone" dropped out of the top-ten, says Marsden, they continued to sing it.[5][6] The song was later adopted by the Scottish teams Hibernian and Celtic[3] and Dutch teams Feyenoord and FC Twente.[7]
A special recording of the song was made in solidarity with Bradford City following the Valley Parade fire in 1985, when 56 fans died and many more were injured. The song was performed by The Crowd (featuring Gerry Marsden, Paul McCartney and Rolf Harris).
In April 1989, a few days after the Hillsborough Disaster resulted in the deaths of 96 fans of Liverpool F.C., a European Cup semi-final between A.C. Milan and Real Madrid was played. The match official blew his whistle 6 minutes into the game to stop play (the game at Hillsborough stadium had been stopped at 3:06) and hold a minute's silence. Approximately 20 seconds into the silence, the Milan fans began to sing "You'll Never Walk Alone" as a tribute to those who died.[8]
Some years later, after witnessing a rousing rendition of "You'll Never Walk Alone" at Anfield in 2007, the President of the Spanish Olympic Committee, Alejandro Blanco, said he felt inspired to seek lyrics to his country's wordless national anthem, the Royal March, ahead of Madrid's bid to host the 2016 Olympic Games.[9][10]
This is all I know about it.
Hope this helps
"You'll Never Walk Alone" is a show tune from the 1945 Rodgers and Hammerstein musical, Carousel.
In the musical, in the second act, Nettie Fowler, the cousin of the female protagonist Julie Jordan, sings "You'll Never Walk Alone" to comfort and encourage Julie when her husband, Billy Bigelow, the male lead, has killed himself after a failed robbery. It is reprised in the final scene to encourage a graduation class of which Louise (their daughter) is a member. Billy attends this ceremony during his return to earth and inspires them with his words of encouragement to assure them of his love.
Christine Johnson, who created the role of Nettie first introduced the song in the original Broadway production, and later Jan Clayton as Julie Jordan reprises it at the end with the chorus joining in. In the film it is sung by Claramae Turner as Nettie (although the weeping Shirley Jones (as Julie) first tries to sing it, but cannot), and later reprised by Ms. Jones and a chorus.
Because the song is included during the graduation finale of the musical, it has become a standard, sung by graduation classes in the United States.
The song is also sung at football clubs around the world, where it is performed by a massed chorus of supporters on matchday; this tradition began at Liverpool F.C. in the early 1960s and later spread to several other clubs.[1]
Besides the recordings of the song on the Carousel cast albums and the film soundtrack, the song has been recorded by many artists as listed below, with notable hit versions made by Frank Sinatra, Judy Garland, Gerry & The Pacemakers, Elvis Presley, and Johnny Cash.
Sporting anthem
Shankly GatesIn England, the song's most successful performance was recorded in 1963 by the Liverpudlian Merseybeat group Gerry and the Pacemakers (peaking at number one in the singles chart for four consecutive weeks). It quickly became the anthem of Liverpool Football Club and is invariably sung by its supporters moments before the start of each home game.[2][3] The words "You'll Never Walk Alone" also feature in the club crest and on the Shankly Gate entrance to the stadium.
According to former player Tommy Smith, Gerry Marsden presented Liverpool manager Bill Shankly with a recording of his upcoming cover single during a pre-season coach trip in the summer of 1963. "Shanks was in awe of what he [had] heard. [...] Football writers from the local newspapers were travelling with our party and, thirsty for a story of any kind between games, filed copy back to their editors to the effect that we had adopted Gerry Marsden's forthcoming single as the club song."[4]
Marsden himself told BBC Radio how, in the nineteen-sixties, the deejay at Anfield would play the top-ten commercial records in ascending order, with the number one single transmitted last, shortly before kickoff. Supporters standing on the Spion Kop terrace would sing along, but once "You'll Never Walk Alone" dropped out of the top-ten, says Marsden, they continued to sing it.[5][6] The song was later adopted by the Scottish teams Hibernian and Celtic[3] and Dutch teams Feyenoord and FC Twente.[7]
A special recording of the song was made in solidarity with Bradford City following the Valley Parade fire in 1985, when 56 fans died and many more were injured. The song was performed by The Crowd (featuring Gerry Marsden, Paul McCartney and Rolf Harris).
In April 1989, a few days after the Hillsborough Disaster resulted in the deaths of 96 fans of Liverpool F.C., a European Cup semi-final between A.C. Milan and Real Madrid was played. The match official blew his whistle 6 minutes into the game to stop play (the game at Hillsborough stadium had been stopped at 3:06) and hold a minute's silence. Approximately 20 seconds into the silence, the Milan fans began to sing "You'll Never Walk Alone" as a tribute to those who died.[8]
Some years later, after witnessing a rousing rendition of "You'll Never Walk Alone" at Anfield in 2007, the President of the Spanish Olympic Committee, Alejandro Blanco, said he felt inspired to seek lyrics to his country's wordless national anthem, the Royal March, ahead of Madrid's bid to host the 2016 Olympic Games.[9][10]
This is all I know about it.
Hope this helps
Embarassing post
I thought there was similar footage from the 1983 final
Post that on a Celtic forum.
If you mean liverpool and celtic, they are in different countries.
Why do you regard celtic fans as cnutish? Every celtic fan I have ever met has been sound. I was in Stuttgart in 2002 when the played VFB in the UEFA cup - the fans were a credit to their club.
Not what I heard after our match 2/3 seasons ago in OT. The likes of Ralphie or Heap might tell ya more.........
If that's the one I'm thinking of, our fans were chanting "You'll never walk again". I believe it was the "counter" chant before "Sign On" caught on.
I've read that wikipedia report before, and it does seem odd that Liverpool are so closely linked with that song, with it having huge emotional significance, when it was essential just something they liked on the radio at the time.
Really? I must have missed the bit on this evening's news about the United Kingdom splitting up..
I really don't want to get into this again. The Old Firm is an embarrasment to British football, the supporter base of both Celtic and Rangers is still, to this day, based largely on sectarianism.
Celtic supporters in Manchester singing - "Up the RA"
Hardly the 'sound' and 'credit to their club' supporters which you speak of, are they?
Because it is a cnuts' song.
I believe the bastards were the first team to sing it. Then Celtic started as well, and there's nothing that pisses me off most than hearing that fecking song. If you ask me how would it be to be in hell, it would be living eternity listening to that fecken chant.
I believe the bastards were the first team to sing it. Then Celtic started as well, and there's nothing that pisses me off most than hearing that fecking song. If you ask me how would it be to be in hell, it would be living eternity listening to that fecken chant.
Fantastic!
It's funny how the scousers only clock on that it's the United fans singing it right towards the end of the video.
On that evidence, no they are not, however my experiece of celtic fans was sound.
Fantastic!
It's funny how the scousers only clock on that it's the United fans singing it right towards the end of the video.
They're not singing the same words...
They're not singing the same words...
I know, but that doesn't make it any less brilliant.
Thought this was going to be about Lucas being robbed.
feck off
feck off
With a hole in your arse
and you'll never walk AGAIN
Genius.
feck off
With a hole in your arse
and you'll never walk AGAIN
Genius.I have read a few times that United was the fist known team to actually sing it after Munich and then it came back a few years later and all clubs started singing it in the early 60's after it was included in some musical.
It wasn't just sung at football matches either i know it was often done a rugby league matches in the past and probably other sports aswell. Liverpool and Celtic just like to pretend it was their song.
It wasn't just sung at football matches either i know it was often done a rugby league matches in the past and probably other sports aswell. Liverpool and Celtic just like to pretend it was their song.
In the video footage you are talking about we are singing "you will never walk again"
https://www.redcafe.net/f6/manchester-united-videos-165623/index24.html
Page 24.
It comes from Carousel.
Football fans in general when singing started full-bore in the early 1960s did sometimes sing this one - going into the 1970s.
But after a time it became associated primarily with Celtic and LFC for whatever reason, and that was that.
For the record, LFC were most famous early on for singing the scouse hits of the day in the stands. Instead of 'You'll Never Walk Alone' they easily could have wound up with "I wanna Hold Your Hand" or Cilla Black's "Anyone Who Had A Heart".
LFC fans got 'You'll Never Walk Alone' from the whole 'singing scouse music' bit rather than suddenly getting a bit of culture. Gerry and the Pacemakers recorded a hit version of it - therefore it became one of their scouse songs to sing and stuck with them and spread elsewhere due to its fairly universal theme.
The comical bit is modern Celtic supporters claiming they 'had it first' as if they were all toddling off to go see a musical in the 1950s.
For the record, does it make me gay that my favourite song ever comes from Carousel? 'Soliloquy' from Carousel is just brilliant in so many ways. Sinatra did a couple of stunning versions of it.
They sing it better than Liverpool supporters IMO
There is no doubt, at last night's match almost the whole ground was singing and had their scarves aloft just before kick off and again just before the second half started, it was probably the loudest song all night. It was the same in 2006 - quite impressive but a crap song.
It was sung in memory of Johnny Warren before Australia's World Cup qualifier against Uruguay in 2005.