You'll have probably seen Alex's comments at the weekend about Dwight still being an excellent striker and having an important role to play during the remainder of the season. I presume this is just man management, hoping to coax a few decent performances from him now he's stuck with him. I remember watching the 'boro game on tv, and Dwight walked past the 'boro dressing room and some of their players tried to drag him in, and Alex walked along and said something like 'Go on, take him!' Its a real pity we are stuck with him, and I'm not sure now who will buy him in the summer, with all the likely candidates ruling themselves out by pursuing other strikers. If Angel decided to leave Villa in the summer then there might be a slim chance of them taking Yorke, but otherwise I'm not sure who we could offload him to. It really is a sorry end to his United career. I guess we can only hope that the Wizard can wave his magic wand and coax another hat trick out of Yorke against the gunners!
Yorke staying
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Fergie had no choice but to make that statement with the passing of the Champions League deadline. I'm sure that he knows that Forlan won't be able to adjust in time to be very effective this season and without Yorke he's left with only two pure strikers. With that said I still don't see Yorke getting a run in the team unless their is an injury to Ruud or Ole.
Sorry Yorkie but I hope you are shopping yourself around for a move in the off season. Baring a miracle your United career is over and you should move on. I would love for you to stay but Fergie doesn't care for you to stay and that's what counts.
Sorry Yorkie but I hope you are shopping yourself around for a move in the off season. Baring a miracle your United career is over and you should move on. I would love for you to stay but Fergie doesn't care for you to stay and that's what counts.
fergie doesnt care? yorke should be glad that he hasnt been shown the door yet!
I'll repeat my sentiments from the last time this came up. If he won't feck off with some dignity when the chance is offered to him then let him rot on the reserves bench and see just how much he's worth when he gets his precious Bosman.
I'd rather see someone who cares for the shirt given a chance than watch Yorkie feck up for the umpteenth time and grin to the crowd. Play Forlan, play Fortune or Giggs up front, bring on Webber, Davis, Fletcher, Djordic, Timm, Richardson feck it play my mum up front, she cares more for the bloody team than Disco <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
Sorry, calmer now..... He'll not shape up, he's had his chances and blown them so he should just ship out while the memories of Yorke circa '99 are still intact.
I'd rather see someone who cares for the shirt given a chance than watch Yorkie feck up for the umpteenth time and grin to the crowd. Play Forlan, play Fortune or Giggs up front, bring on Webber, Davis, Fletcher, Djordic, Timm, Richardson feck it play my mum up front, she cares more for the bloody team than Disco <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
Sorry, calmer now..... He'll not shape up, he's had his chances and blown them so he should just ship out while the memories of Yorke circa '99 are still intact.
[I would love for you to stay but Fergie doesn't care for you to stay and that's what counts.[/QB][/QUOTE]
Yes. We would all look forward to a third season of Disco playing like a donkey's dangler. I can't think of any player who has had two poor seasons and has been around for a third.
The guy will be shipped out pronto over the summer, and I'd be suprised if he gets another game before then.
Yes. We would all look forward to a third season of Disco playing like a donkey's dangler. I can't think of any player who has had two poor seasons and has been around for a third.
The guy will be shipped out pronto over the summer, and I'd be suprised if he gets another game before then.
Can't see him being wiped out. I think he'll leave on his terms in the summer. For 25K a week I wouldn't mind playing with the reserves and saving energy for another porn flick.
Good desicion by Sir Alex.Dwight Yorke is still a best striker if he given a chance to prove it.But he still need to improve his finishing and fitness if he want to stay longer at Old Trafford.
He travelled to Nantes but didn't even make the bench - for the sake of match fitness in the event of a striker crisis, surely he'd have been best left behind to play with the reserves?
No place on the bench on Wednesday. No place in the reserves. No place on the bench even against Villa, when players are more often than not, given a chance against their old club.
It's not looking good.
No place on the bench on Wednesday. No place in the reserves. No place on the bench even against Villa, when players are more often than not, given a chance against their old club.
It's not looking good.
One wonders if the Yorke situation was the final straw on Fergie's decision to retire.
Sort of, "So he thinks I'll retire and he'll be staying after me hey? I'll show him...".
Sort of, "So he thinks I'll retire and he'll be staying after me hey? I'll show him...".
He left OT in a huff on Saturday when he didn't make the bench. A United spokesman said diplomatically that he went home to watch it on TV! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
He meant another porno flic????
He meant another porno flic????
What performance this season. Yorke has only gotten one good run in the team this season. If a player isn't allowed to gain confidence by playing then it's not going to come by magic. Last year was probably Yorke's worst season as a professional player and he has not recieved a fair chance to regain his confidence. 15 minuted here and 15 minutes there does not cut it. Do you really think Forlan should be on the team before Yorke? Fergie is trying his best to see how far he can push Dwight to beg for a transfer since he didn't accept going to Boro.
All in all he will be gone during the off season. Though you may not think that he's worth anything I'm sure a lot of other teams will want him. Through desperation to get funds to strenghten the defence Yorke will be off for next to nothing in the summer and it'll be the other teams gain.
As much as I like United as a team I hope they win nothing this season to prove to Fergie that he's a has been.
All in all he will be gone during the off season. Though you may not think that he's worth anything I'm sure a lot of other teams will want him. Through desperation to get funds to strenghten the defence Yorke will be off for next to nothing in the summer and it'll be the other teams gain.
As much as I like United as a team I hope they win nothing this season to prove to Fergie that he's a has been.
Originally posted by Yorke19:
<strong>What performance this season. Yorke has only gotten one good run in the team this season. If a player isn't allowed to gain confidence by playing then it's not going to come by magic. Last year was probably Yorke's worst season as a professional player and he has not recieved a fair chance to regain his confidence. 15 minuted here and 15 minutes there does not cut it. Do you really think Forlan should be on the team before Yorke? Fergie is trying his best to see how far he can push Dwight to beg for a transfer since he didn't accept going to Boro.
All in all he will be gone during the off season. Though you may not think that he's worth anything I'm sure a lot of other teams will want him. Through desperation to get funds to strenghten the defence Yorke will be off for next to nothing in the summer and it'll be the other teams gain.
As much as I like United as a team I hope they win nothing this season to prove to Fergie that he's a has been.</strong><hr></blockquote>
So you're a Yorke fan before a United fan then, sorry to hear that as you'll seriously struggle to watch him from DC when he's playing for Rushden & Diamonds or whichever conference team decides to step in for him. His value to other teams is diminishing rapidly as his true colours are shown and whilst he has (or had) the talent to grace virtually any team, his disruptive influence and attitude are not worth the trouble. He should have gone while he had the chance of doing so with some pride still intact.
Dwight has had more than enough chances this season to prove to us that his touch has completely deserted him. Every single match I have seen him in this season (and last) he has been guilty of losing virtually every ball that was played into him, we cannot afford his profligacy and his couldn't give a feck "shrug 'n grin" attitude has rightly got up the noses of most United fans and Fergie in particular.
It's a shame to see a player who had proved himself at the highest level for us let the fame go to his head and waste his talent but bigger and better players have blown it at United and got canned for it and rightly so, No player is bigger than United.
Bye Dwight, Bye Yorke19 You'll be sadly missed
Originally posted by Yorke19:
<strong>What performance this season. Yorke has only gotten one good run in the team this season. If a player isn't allowed to gain confidence by playing then it's not going to come by magic. Last year was probably Yorke's worst season as a professional player and he has not recieved a fair chance to regain his confidence. 15 minuted here and 15 minutes there does not cut it. Do you really think Forlan should be on the team before Yorke? Fergie is trying his best to see how far he can push Dwight to beg for a transfer since he didn't accept going to Boro.
All in all he will be gone during the off season. Though you may not think that he's worth anything I'm sure a lot of other teams will want him. Through desperation to get funds to strenghten the defence Yorke will be off for next to nothing in the summer and it'll be the other teams gain.
As much as I like United as a team I hope they win nothing this season to prove to Fergie that he's a has been.</strong><hr></blockquote>
So you put a has-been like yorke above fergie and his team?
Feck off, part-timer! <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
Originally posted by Bury Red:
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So you're a Yorke fan before a United fan then, sorry to hear that as you'll seriously struggle to watch him from DC when he's playing for Rushden & Diamonds or whichever conference team decides to step in for him. His value to other teams is diminishing rapidly as his true colours are shown and whilst he has (or had) the talent to grace virtually any team, his disruptive influence and attitude are not worth the trouble. He should have gone while he had the chance of doing so with some pride still intact.
Dwight has had more than enough chances this season to prove to us that his touch has completely deserted him. Every single match I have seen him in this season (and last) he has been guilty of losing virtually every ball that was played into him, we cannot afford his profligacy and his couldn't give a feck "shrug 'n grin" attitude has rightly got up the noses of most United fans and Fergie in particular.
It's a shame to see a player who had proved himself at the highest level for us let the fame go to his head and waste his talent but bigger and better players have blown it at United and got canned for it and rightly so, No player is bigger than United.
Bye Dwight, Bye Yorke19 You'll be sadly missed
It has nothing to do with being a Yorke fan over a United fan. If there was a way I'd put my money where my mouth is that Yorke will be in the EPL next season. What do you call a fair chance to prove himself this season. That's a load of crock. How many games has he started this season. How many back to back games has he started. That's how you start to gain your confidence. I would admit that his touch has left him but a lot of that is confidence. A player doesn't have success for many years just to loose it in a snap. If a parent doesn't boost a child's confidence that child will not find it for himself. Like I said Yorke still has a lot of football left in him he'll simply do it elsewhere. By the way do you like Beckham. Shame he's not 100% committed to the club. Says a lot about being an embarrasment to the sport when money affects commitment.
Originally posted by lchk:
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So you put a has-been like yorke above fergie and his team?
Feck off, part-timer! <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
Fergie is a has been himself. It's a shame that he's going to be around for another three years. Probably undo all he's achieved over the years. I have no probs with wanting to sell Yorke if he's not up to scratch but for Fergie to be pissed cause Yorke wouldn't move over to meet his needs is fecking bull shit. You're a fecking kiss ass yourself. You were probably swinging on Yorke's dick in his first two seasons now you can't wait to see him off. Fickle cnut.
fergie a has been ... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
what a load of crap
what a load of crap
Fergie out and a new contract for Yorke, I say ! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
Originally posted by Yorke19:
<strong>You were probably swinging on Yorke's dick in his first two seasons now you can't wait to see him off. Fickle cnut.</strong><hr></blockquote>His dick was probably so far up your arse, no-one could swing on it!
Yorke19, your comments in this thread have proved you are, by far, a Yorke fan not a United fan.
As much as I like United as a team I hope they win nothing this season to prove to Fergie that he's a has been.<hr></blockquote>No United fan worth their salt would ever say that ... 'kin tit.
fergie out ... whats he ever done?
Originally posted by Yorke19:
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Fergie is a has been himself. It's a shame that he's going to be around for another three years. Probably undo all he's achieved over the years. I have no probs with wanting to sell Yorke if he's not up to scratch but for Fergie to be pissed cause Yorke wouldn't move over to meet his needs is fecking bull shit. You're a fecking kiss ass yourself. You were probably swinging on Yorke's dick in his first two seasons now you can't wait to see him off. Fickle cnut.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Fergie out and yorke stays?
Part-time muppet cnut!
You sure you support the Reds (or is the dipper reds)?
Feck off tosspot!
Originally posted by Yorke19:
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It has nothing to do with being a Yorke fan over a United fan. If there was a way I'd put my money where my mouth is that Yorke will be in the EPL next season. What do you call a fair chance to prove himself this season. That's a load of crock. How many games has he started this season. How many back to back games has he started. That's how you start to gain your confidence. I would admit that his touch has left him but a lot of that is confidence. A player doesn't have success for many years just to loose it in a snap. If a parent doesn't boost a child's confidence that child will not find it for himself. Like I said Yorke still has a lot of football left in him he'll simply do it elsewhere. By the way do you like Beckham. Shame he's not 100% committed to the club. Says a lot about being an embarrasment to the sport when money affects commitment.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You’re probably right about Disco staying in the premiership as I am sure some mug will stump up the cash for him over the summer and he may swallow his pride and accept a lesser paycheck this time round rather than suffer a further season under Fergie (I’m sure he was ecstatic to hear Fergie had reconsidered). He may even shine for a while at a new club although he will soon slip into old ways and risks heading down the Collymore route of moving clubs where he shows a glimpse of hope and then clashes with managers and chairmen before departing with each tenure becoming shorter until he is considered too risky and is un signable.
As for your “load of crock” accusation <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> Dwight has started in only 6 games this season with a further 10 sub appearances of the 617 minutes of match time played he has scored only once (Phil Neville has managed 2 goals in just over 2000 minutes this season and he’s a defender (some here would say he’s not even a very good one)). To be less flippant with the comparisons you can look at all 4 strikers this season:
Sub appearances in brackets
Yorke : Plyd 6(10) Gls 1 Mins 617 SR 617mins/goal
Cole: Plyd 9(6) Gls 5 Mins 907 SR 181mins/goal
OGS: Plyd 19(13) Gls 15 Mins 1745 SR 116mins/goal
RVN: Plyd 28(6) Gls 28 Mins 2838 SR 101mins/goal
Dwight’s deterioration has been going on over the last 2 years however and he has gone from 29 goals in 51 appearances in 98-99 and 23 in 47 the following season to a poor 12 from 37 games last season before this seasons no show. You are right that part of the blame for this must lie in confidence and all strikers go through lean spells and must have the balls to play themselves back into form. Dwight has played over 75% of his match time in one consistent run of 9 out of 10 games in November and December this season including 4 starts during which time he bagged his only goal (but even 1 every 452 minutes is not good enough for a striker) coincidentally (or not) the same period was our worst spell of the season and we losing 5 and drawing 1 of the 9 games. He has been given his chances and has clearly failed to take them, we cannot afford to carry him until he gets over it. We have done that for the best part of 2 seasons with signs that it’s only getting worse rather than better, the diminishing returns we have seen from Dwight are saddening and this seasons performances could only be worse if he started scoring own goals. If we chose to play Dwight as our first choice striker week in week out our season would still be going nowhere and the scousers would make our ridiculing of Emile Heskey look like a Sunday school picnic.
To compound it all his attitude sucks, he shows up late for training, stays out late clubbing and drags United’s name across the pages of the tabloids with his “porn star” exploits, he stomps off when he is not selected and was even pictured against Arsenal wearing a big grin as the team lost. These and the lack of return are the reasons most United fans would now rather see the back of the smug contemptuous git, and would certainly not wish to continue paying his wages while he “gets over it” when clearly the only thing he is getting over is his leg
You try and draw comparisons with Beckham’s contractual wrangling however that doesn’t wash, regardless of the debate on the size of the pay packet Beckham gives his all to proving his commitment and his worth on the field and has been doing so throughout his 10 years at United in over 300 games scoring 60 plus goals from midfield at a rate of 1 in 5. Through consistent performances on the field and working through any tough patches he has had, Beckham has shown his worth and whether the PLC agree with his own (and his advisors) assessment of that worth will decide his next move. Whether he chooses to stay or to go, he will forever be associated with United and will always be respected by the majority of the fans. Dwight, on the other hand, has lost any respect he had with the fans and could feck off tomorrow on a free for all I care, the longer he stays the less however he will be worth and it would amuse me no end to see him get his Bosman next summer only to be paid in washers and a bunk up with the tea lady at Daggenham and Redbridge.
Yorke19 is so biased he just can't see that Yorkie has brought all this on himself!
If Fergie wasn't fair with him how come he kept faith with him during that lean spell a couple of years ago - three months without scoring I think, and he played more or less every game. Imo, instead of being grateful, Yorkie responded by deciding that he must be irreplaceable, and he developed a complacency that he never lost. Fergie did him no favours in hindsight - he should have been dropped two years ago and it would have been a kick up the backside. Fergie showed faith, and basically, Dwight abused it.
But you can't say he wasn't given a chance.
If Fergie wasn't fair with him how come he kept faith with him during that lean spell a couple of years ago - three months without scoring I think, and he played more or less every game. Imo, instead of being grateful, Yorkie responded by deciding that he must be irreplaceable, and he developed a complacency that he never lost. Fergie did him no favours in hindsight - he should have been dropped two years ago and it would have been a kick up the backside. Fergie showed faith, and basically, Dwight abused it.
But you can't say he wasn't given a chance.
found this..altho no quotes = bullshit most of the time:
A Spurs insider has told THEspursweb that Tottenham Hotspur have agreed a £7m bid for Manchester United striker Dwight Yorke.
Yorke has been unsettled at Old Trafford this season due to a lack of opportunities for a place in the Manchester United starting lineup.
The former Aston Villa hitman's agent is due to meet Spurs officials to begin negotiating a transfer to White Hart Lane where he would see the chance of more regular first team football.
Its understood that Sunderland's Kevin Phillips was the orginal preference for Glenn Hoddle but Spurs had to look elsewhere after the Black Cats refused a £12m bid for the World Cup hopeful.
If negociations are positive then Yorke could be a Spurs player within a fortnight.
A Spurs insider has told THEspursweb that Tottenham Hotspur have agreed a £7m bid for Manchester United striker Dwight Yorke.
Yorke has been unsettled at Old Trafford this season due to a lack of opportunities for a place in the Manchester United starting lineup.
The former Aston Villa hitman's agent is due to meet Spurs officials to begin negotiating a transfer to White Hart Lane where he would see the chance of more regular first team football.
Its understood that Sunderland's Kevin Phillips was the orginal preference for Glenn Hoddle but Spurs had to look elsewhere after the Black Cats refused a £12m bid for the World Cup hopeful.
If negociations are positive then Yorke could be a Spurs player within a fortnight.
So you're not actually a United fan then?
I say we try do a swap with Feynoord - Yorke + cash for Brett Emerton
A £12.6million record-signing, aged 29 and now on the verge of leaving. I am very dissapointed about him because he is really a great player. I know his attitude had been disgraceful but you have to look at it in a different perspective. He cost around 12 million and he was our record signing, he was one of our influencial players in the treble season and can score goals for fun. His partnership with Andy Cole was great, on and off the field. Do you think this has something to do with Cole leaving to Blackburn, maybe or maybe not. I still think he is better than Solskjær and Forlan but he needs to be given a chance. I was dissapointed not to see him on the bench for the last couple of games. I have heard many of you talk about his attitude for reserve games and he has to only blame himself for that. I hope he gets a chance to start and then prove what the fans want, goals. He is still one of my favourite players. I can't believe many of you are slagging him off, he deserves a chance.