Will Giggs ever leave Man Utd?

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I was just thinking that he is 29 now and his form is inconsistant plus he is always injured, he rarely strings a good run of games together without missing some. He also rarely turns it on lik he used to and I've suggested in the past that he has lost some his edge and hunger.

But whats definite is that most European clubs would kill to have him, they all love him and would pay a fortune. Now my thinking was that maybe they will cash in on him while they still can. He is still probably worth £20m (maybe more) but in a year or two this might drop to under £10m.

Perhaps its time Giggs became a squad player rather than first choice. Or perhaps these rumours of various European clubs offering large sums plus players for his services turn out to be true?

We certainly need cover and its been said in the Transfer forum that Duff would be ideal - I agree. Perhaps Giggs should be rotated with Duff rather than automatic first choice with frequent rests/lay offs dotted here and there.

What do you lot think? How long will Giggs be staying with us? He isnt the player he used to be sadly.

Personally I love him, but its sad to see him underperform again and again and see him get injured. I hope he can find some consistency and fires us to glory, he is one guy who can more than any other player - as shown in 99.
 
Every couple of months the "giggs is past it" topic comes up :rolleyes:

He is the worlds best left midfielder, would walk into any side in the world, is an icon, loves us as much as we love him.

Somethings are priceless.
 
Did you read the post?

I dont think he 'brings it' anymore. But the point is will he stay here for life? I cant imagine a 35 year old Giggsy on our wing....

So I was thinking perhaps our PLC will cash in.
 
this post is silly

giggs is the best player at united with keano imo

the man is genius

i still remember his goal against spurs when he nut megged mabbot and scored from a near imposs angle
 
So he will stay for life? Thats the topic folks, if you dont wanna answer it then let it sink.

Yes he is a genius. But one that isnt performing anymore. Its gotten to the stage where there are other left wingers who are just as good if not better or more effective across a season.
 
Originally posted by ShAoLiN_ChRoNiC:
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So I was thinking perhaps our PLC will cash in.</strong><hr></blockquote>

They should cash in on Beckham. He's unlikely to ever be worth more than he is now, which is a small fortune.

Really, do you think Sir Alex would have the PLC selling his best players just because the directors think they're old?
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Originally posted by ShAoLiN_ChRoNiC:
<strong>So he will stay for life? Thats the topic folks, if you dont wanna answer it then let it sink.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Life? I don't know, he could decide to play until deep into his thirties and I wouldn't suppose he'd stay at United all that time.

But a few more years, definately.
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Cashing in on Beckham is absurd imo. We'd lose argubly the best crosser, set piece taker in the world. Cash in on Veron instead. ;)
 
Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>Every couple of months the "giggs is past it" topic comes up :rolleyes:

He is the worlds best left midfielder, would walk into any side in the world, is an icon, loves us as much as we love him.

Somethings are priceless.</strong><hr></blockquote>

"For everything else, theres Master Card"

Sorry, I couldn't let that slip by with out getting that in

:)
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Giggs will probably stay for life, however, as he gets into his 30's and what not, will probably be rotated more with who ever is at the club (Hopefully Djordic) but I can't see why they would sell him.

Sure players sometimes go off peak for a while, but name a player that hasn't had an off game or 2, It wouldn't suprise me if Giggs became a coach for United and was there into his 40's to be honest, the talent he does have is class and can't be taught by coaches from nothing, Giggs would maybe be able to teach youngsters to whip a ball down the wing

Theres possiblities all over the place, even if he does become more inconsistant later on in his game

:)
 
Originally posted by Wibble:
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Bollocks.</strong><hr></blockquote>

As much as I love Giggsy, if you're saying he plays with the same hunger, fight, determination and tenacity as he used to, you're blatantly wrong. But that can also be labelled on many of our midfielders, but Giggs seems to do it more than others. He only turns it on when conditions suit him.
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Originally posted by ShAoLiN_ChRoNiC:
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As much as I love Giggsy, if you're saying he plays with the same hunger, fight, determination and tenacity as he used to, you're blatantly wrong. But that can also be labelled on many of our midfielders, but Giggs seems to do it more than others. He only turns it on when conditions suit him.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Shao, is there anyone you want us to keep?
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He does still 'Bring It', but he's oft injured and not getting any younger. Hence we should buy Duff as a cover for Giggs (among other things).
 
I said I want to keep Giggs, but thats based on him performing or not. Then again I would not be TOO surprised if we cash in on this inconsistant and casual player. Then again he is probably the best in the world, it seems a consistant left winger doesnt exist.

Wanna keep all our players, dont really wanna sell anyone. Silvestre if he is unhappy, Veron if he is unhappy or we're gonna spend the money wisely. Sell Yorke and maybe Fortune obviously.

I wanna keep all our players, but thats based on the them performing. I just feel our team needs revitalising big style, even if we replace them with lesser players - the higher energy/hunger will make up for any difference in quality.
 
Like many United players he hasn't had his best season ever and you are writing him off. :rolleyes: We need a good backup but not a replacement.
 
You are probably right that he doesn't "turn it on" as frequently as he used to be. But then, he is still a very valuable, special and unique player. Something can only be done by him in the current squad. From your previous posts you have defended Veron a lot, but notice that:
Veron: a playmaker which we already have plenty of, a foreigner who never stop moaning to the media.
Giggs: a dribbler which is unique in our squad, and a Red thru-and-thru.
If we need to cash in one midfielder, I know who I'm going to sell.
 
He wouldn't want to, we wouldn't want him to, so I don't think he will. Giggs is red to the core.
 
Originally posted by Wibble:
<strong>If he performs like you say why would you want to keep him?</strong><hr></blockquote>

He may just be going thru a bad patch, however its been like this for a long time, more than just one season. I do want Giggs to stay because he is red through and through, but the team needs consistancy. Its not because he doesnt destroy teams all the time, but the hunger and killer instinct has disappeared from Giggsy.

Veron has only been here one season and he was new, give him abit longer. But if played inconsistant like Giggs then he should be out the door. Giggs is homegrown so theres more leniency.
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Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>He is the worlds best left midfielder, would walk into any side in the world, is an icon, loves us as much as we love him.

Somethings are priceless.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Here-here.

Giggs is a red forever. :)

But never say 'never'.
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Originally posted by ShAoLiN_ChRoNiC:
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Its not because he doesnt destroy teams all the time, but the hunger and killer instinct has disappeared from Giggsy.
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Shao, I won't buy into this knock everyone down spree for one bad season. I agreed we had to assess the Keane situation but this is too much.

I wouldn't sell Giggs, no fecking way. For 20m? You don't get anything anywhere near his quality for that kind of money.

What we do have to consider is his first team place being challenged. The moment his spot is being challenged he might get that hunger back. And if he gets injured, the challenger can step in.

We certainly cannot rely 100% on him, we certainly should rely less on him but there is still a lot he can give.
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Originally posted by antohan:
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What we do have to consider is his first team place being challenged. The moment his spot is being challenged he might get that hunger back. And if he gets injured, the challenger can step in.
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Yeh ok, I'm just bored so I post my thoughts.

I've actually been saying this about Giggs for a few years now. Its not that what he tries doesnt come off. Everyone can understand a misplaced pass or a bent shot.

Just when I look at him he doesnt seem to have that zip or hunger anymore - too casual. Especially when you consider he's alongside the never-stopping Keane and Beckham and that he's our quickest and arguably most talented player. Cant help if I get pissed to see a fit and talented guy like him not use his full potential.

I dont think anyone can dispute that his performances overall have been off colour. Its roughly 2-3 great games per year. Some competition is the answer IMO.

This thread is not to slag him off, I was just thinking if we should keep him for life or not. Its been a looong time since any player stayed at any club for life.
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I think Giggs does alot more for Utd then Beckham, its just cause BeckHam has this profile that alot of Utd fans buy in to the Beckham is a better midfielder myth. Giggs is far from past it, look at his game agaiinst Deportivo this year, the man was awesome. He did dissappoint against Bayer but then so did most other Utd players. He does his best for us and to say he is casual is just being disrespectful.
 
Originally posted by seanoc:
<strong>I think Giggs does alot more for Utd then Beckham, its just cause BeckHam has this profile that alot of Utd fans buy in to the Beckham is a better midfielder myth. Giggs is far from past it, look at his game agaiinst Deportivo this year, the man was awesome. He did dissappoint against Bayer but then so did most other Utd players. He does his best for us and to say he is casual is just being disrespectful.</strong><hr></blockquote>

What pisses me off is Giggs has the ability to be our most influential player by far. But theres no doubt about it, Keane and Beckham are our most consistant players. Whether they do well or not, they always run their socks off and they are always effective.

Giggs has 2-3 good games per year, which usually means we've destroyed the opposition because thats how good he is and thats how important he is to us. But 2-3 times a season isnt good enough. Why isnt he consistant? Only answer I can think of is he only gets himself up for it in the really big games, and even then its not always the case.

Even if he has a bad day, you expect him to run his socks off like Beckham/Keane, but instead he just disappears. Giggs probably loses the ball for us more than any other midfielder (dunno about Veron) which is disappointing since he is meant to hold it and run with it. Its not that he fails, its that he isnt working as hard. As long as someone tries their best, you cant complain.

Please dont get me started on Giggs, I watch him closely and see too many examples of clumsy, casual play it pisses me off and you guys will just start calling me stupid some more. Lets just get him some competition and watch him kick ass.
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Two points:
1) Unless I'm mistaken giggsy ain't 29.He's 28.

2) He has not had a consistently good season but I can't agree that he's been in a slump for years, as is implied. IMO he had one of his best seasons last year and this year played as well as anyone in the European games altho admittedly not in either game V levekusen. The point with giggsy is he is so spectacularly good when on fire that his off days seem poorer than they often are.
 
Originally posted by Red99:
<strong>Two points:
1) Unless I'm mistaken giggsy ain't 29.He's 28.

2) He has not had a consistently good season but I can't agree that he's been in a slump for years, as is implied. IMO he had one of his best seasons last year and this year played as well as anyone in the European games altho admittedly not in either game V levekusen. The point with giggsy is he is so spectacularly good when on fire that his off days seem poorer than they often are.</strong><hr></blockquote> he is 29 soon. But agreed on the second point.
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