I only have one question on my mind. What is wrong with Ralf Rangnick... Rashford has played through the left all through his senior career at United and Sancho is very very comfortable playing from the right.. Why is Ralf Rangnick insisting on Rashford and Elanga playing from the right and Sancho playing from the left? Sancho was brought JUST BECAUSE we didn't have somebody in the squad who could be a right sided forward/attacker and now that we do, we play him on the left.. Do all these managers have some or the other flaw? I mean as United fans we know just how good we can be but we also know that some of our players are not very smart. The problem is we don't even try and is it because we still cannot find the right balance or are we just not good enough what so ever?
Why in the world?
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I thought Sancho would be great on the right for us but he's been miles better on the left. And there's no chance we move our most exciting player right now for Rashford who is playing like a cartoon and doesn't even deserve a spot on the bench.
Because Sancho is better on the left, and Greenwood is out of club. It's better to use your best player where he is suited, rather than try to put him in another position so to accommodate an out of form player like Rashford, or a youngster like Elanga.
If Greenwood had not been a complete scumbag Rashford would not be getting a game of any sort, except as a sub.
Because Sancho is just better, so Rashford rightly does not start and just fills in.
Absolutely. He would be behind Elanga as a sub too.
Because probably Rangnick sees shit in training we don't..
Whilst Sancho on the left may be better for us right now Rashford's form isn't going to improve being played out of position so it should be Rashford on the left or not at all
Not at all then - or maybe as a CF which he seemed to be playing at some points last night. Incidentally, even during his best days, he was quite poor in that position too
The question is rather why he brought on Rashford at all when his form has been atrocious for the last few months.
Because Rashford has been dross on the left, on the right and down the middle. So you may as well play Sancho in his strongest position.....
Sancho doesn't have enough pace/acceleration to get round the full back on the right side. He can't come inside on his left foot. On the left his tricks and give and go's are more effective. It really is just that.
Other than Ole's interim period Rashford hasn't been great as a CF. He's only really able to play to his best from the left
Yep such a stupid sub to make. A player who's form and confidence is in the gutter was never going to be the one to turn last night around. Even Lingard would have been a better option
Why play Rashford at all?
He clearly is way off form and doesn't look interested at all. I'd rather he had just kept Amad and gave him those minutes.
There's no reason a right footed forward shouldn't be capable of playing on the right side of attack. He doesn't want to be out there because he can't cut inside and shoot. If he had any work rate and desire at all he'd do his best to make it work. He doesn't, he drops his head, sulks and doesn't try at all.
He clearly is way off form and doesn't look interested at all. I'd rather he had just kept Amad and gave him those minutes.
There's no reason a right footed forward shouldn't be capable of playing on the right side of attack. He doesn't want to be out there because he can't cut inside and shoot. If he had any work rate and desire at all he'd do his best to make it work. He doesn't, he drops his head, sulks and doesn't try at all.
It's not a ridiculous question at all as some seem to think. Earlier in the season Sancho struggled in either position on the right or left, the fact he's played himself into form on the left doesn't exclusively mean he should only play there, especially when up against a full back who seemed to have the psychological edge over him.
I looked at his Dortmund stats up a few weeks ago and they were similar from either side in terms of goal involvements, with more goals from the left but more assists from the right. I was surprised we didn't move him across to the right last night once he stopped beating the full back, and I do agree it's even more bizarre to keep him on the left with Rashford on the pitch as Rashford's best football has almost exclusively come from the left. Obviously I'm not saying Rashford is of the level required currently because he's miles off it, but if we are to see the Marcus Rashford of old again pretty much everything would point to that coming from the left wing rather than the right.
I looked at his Dortmund stats up a few weeks ago and they were similar from either side in terms of goal involvements, with more goals from the left but more assists from the right. I was surprised we didn't move him across to the right last night once he stopped beating the full back, and I do agree it's even more bizarre to keep him on the left with Rashford on the pitch as Rashford's best football has almost exclusively come from the left. Obviously I'm not saying Rashford is of the level required currently because he's miles off it, but if we are to see the Marcus Rashford of old again pretty much everything would point to that coming from the left wing rather than the right.
Sancho is better on the left and Rashford is shit wherever he plays
It obviously didn't work out but I suspect that RR had gambled on the fact that Atletico would sit tight and allow us to have the ball so Rashford can take shots from outside the box (which had been happening a few times with the ball falling to McT and Dalot on a few occasions).
Who should we play instead?
It's a tricky situation as we have so few options with Greenwood out, and Lingard disinterested.
Do you play our form attacker in his best position, or blunt him slightly on the right in order to try and rejuvenate Rashford from the left? Not a trivial question.
I think the manager got it about right from the start. Sancho on the left, Elanga on the right. But I do think when Rashford comes on he shouldn't be on the right, he is so bad there that there's no hope of better form.
Do you play our form attacker in his best position, or blunt him slightly on the right in order to try and rejuvenate Rashford from the left? Not a trivial question.
I think the manager got it about right from the start. Sancho on the left, Elanga on the right. But I do think when Rashford comes on he shouldn't be on the right, he is so bad there that there's no hope of better form.
I never watched sancho at dortmund but my mate was pretty adamant that he’s much, much better on the left and would always play poorly on the right while there.
Rashford needs to be out the door frankly, not dictating far better players than him not play in their preferred spot. pretty simple.
The way the game looked with us having tons of possession, I'd say that Mata would have fared better.
I've been disappointed we haven't put Sancho on the right, in terms of balance, he keeps the wing well and plays like a proper winger. Which we've never had on the right. Greenwood played right wing like a striker. Mata played right wing like an attacking mid. Rashford just doesn't really do anything there.
Oh yeah I forgot about him
Ralf hates width.
Absolutely and Ralf continuing to shunt Rashford wide right when by now he should have figured out he can't play there and doing so is eroding his confidence speaks volumes about Rangnick's man management skills or lack thereof.
I don’t know what’s “wrong” with Ralf, but it is clear that Rashford has been poor everywhere he’s been played this season. The decision to bring him on yesterday was spawned by desperation. It was an unfortunate decision.
Probably Ralf thinks Jadon is better on the left because he watched his performances for BVB and most of his better performances had been on that side?
I'm sure he has been bad for a long time now but I think the only way he can regain any kind of form is if he is played in his position and not somewhere else. I think that is probably the reason his form has dipped even further.
Elanga also plays better on the left. Rangnick just uses whatever seems to be working at the moment.
I'd love to see
----------------------------------Matic--------------------------------
------------Pogba---------------------------Fred-------------------
Bruno----------------------Ronaldo-------------------Sancho
But for some reason we keep trying to squeeze Bruno into the midfield where he just doesn't retain the ball well enough to be a midfielder. I've heard people say he can't play on the wing because "he's too slow and can't dribble". I call BS on that. The goal Elanga almost scored last night was because of Bruno's work down the wing. I'd love to see him given a run there. I bet he wouldn't just score more but he will be the creativity we have been craving from the wing as none of our players put in good crosses or when they do, they do it too late. Bruno will look for the early ball and Ronaldo would thrive from that kind of service...
----------------------------------Matic--------------------------------
------------Pogba---------------------------Fred-------------------
Bruno----------------------Ronaldo-------------------Sancho
But for some reason we keep trying to squeeze Bruno into the midfield where he just doesn't retain the ball well enough to be a midfielder. I've heard people say he can't play on the wing because "he's too slow and can't dribble". I call BS on that. The goal Elanga almost scored last night was because of Bruno's work down the wing. I'd love to see him given a run there. I bet he wouldn't just score more but he will be the creativity we have been craving from the wing as none of our players put in good crosses or when they do, they do it too late. Bruno will look for the early ball and Ronaldo would thrive from that kind of service...
I agree rashford is so much better on the left, I think sancho would be fine on the right, rashford is so out of form currently, the main attributes were or are his speed, we have however moved to being a bit more possession oriented, when we play against teams who sit back, we need players who can get out of tight spaces etc, something rashford does have in his locker but right now he’s so out of form, he looked better in the system ole played because we are a counter attacking team & his pace is class for that, I have not given up on rashford yet like most, I remember a game against spurs a few years ago we won 2-1 against mourinho spurs, rashford was unreal that day. He has it in his locker but his form is woeful
Yes Sancho was bought to fill that void, but he was bought by people like Woodward and Murtough who clearly have no idea to build a football squad, because as a lot of people said before we signed him Sancho is so much better on the left than the right.
What has been happening is Sancho and Rashford normally switch around 20 minutes in a typical which the wide men too confuse the opposition defense, but pretty every game after that has happened has been the almost exact moment that the united promising start to a game normally begins to fade away.
What has been happening is Sancho and Rashford normally switch around 20 minutes in a typical which the wide men too confuse the opposition defense, but pretty every game after that has happened has been the almost exact moment that the united promising start to a game normally begins to fade away.
Sancho was brought in to play on the right yet is far more comfortable on the left, says all you need to know about our recruitment policy, either way we need a winger in the summer, with Greenwood and Martial off, Rashford's shocking form and Diallo not looking at all like one of the most talented wingers in football, we desperately need someone like Raphinha.
Sancho is really a faster version of Mata, or David Silva. He's not a really a wide player at all, so of course, lacking the sort of wingback support to actually stretch the defence out wide and the combination play that made him effective starting from the right at dortmund, he's much better from the left when he can come inside on his strong foot and combine centrally
Elanga plays because he's the only willing off ball runner who wants to stretch defences, so he has to play
Elanga plays because he's the only willing off ball runner who wants to stretch defences, so he has to play
You don’t develop if you keep doing the same thing over and over again.
We know exactly what Rashford will do on the left, so do defenders, he’s incredibly predictable. You stick him on the right and he can’t cut inside so he has to try something else and god forbid develop his game.The problem is he’s bang out of form and can’t do anything right.
Most top level players can play anywhere in a front 3 and offer something different in every position, Sancho is a great example of a player that can do that and has developed his game to be good everywhere.
Rashford won’t make it at the top of he continues with the one trick pony shit
Probably because the data RR (and Solskjaer before him) sees doesn't agree with you. Also, because there are many people who treat Rashford like an accomplished LW/LF who can make a difference for us in that area of the pitch, when, on his current form and with his current skill set, he is a pacey goalscorer/second striker whose flashier moments come from the left.
Anyway, if you have the time and you are interested in some myth busting reads about both Rashford and Sancho's best roles on the pitch, these might help:
https://thebusbybabe.sbnation.com/2...ford-and-jadon-sancho-keep-swapping-sides-why
https://thebusbybabe.sbnation.com/2...n-sancho-solves-uniteds-rw-issues-right-right
https://thebusbybabe.sbnation.com/2...cal-analysis-what-is-marcus-rashford-position
Anyway, if you have the time and you are interested in some myth busting reads about both Rashford and Sancho's best roles on the pitch, these might help:
https://thebusbybabe.sbnation.com/2...ford-and-jadon-sancho-keep-swapping-sides-why
https://thebusbybabe.sbnation.com/2...n-sancho-solves-uniteds-rw-issues-right-right
https://thebusbybabe.sbnation.com/2...cal-analysis-what-is-marcus-rashford-position