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Pool or Arse? Newcie could also be v. dangerous IMO. Arse have only signed Cygan - complacency?
Originally posted by toml:
<strong>I think Newcastle will be a big threat this season. I don't think they'll keep up with the bigguns, but they'll do better than last season.
Viena (spelling?) was a brilliant signing for them, he scored 2 last night in their friendly.
Their team is starting to look nice.
Solano, Jenas, Dyer, Viena
Shearer Bellamy
Not bad eh?</strong><hr></blockquote>
robert is there as well. . .
Originally posted by usual_suspect:
<strong>gilberto silva and vieira will be some pairing in the arsenal midfield...but the loss of ljunberg and pires for the early part of the season will hurt them. seaman will still be a liability in goal, and lauren does not strike me as a true RB. henry and bergkamp will do the business upfront, but kanu, wiltord, and jeffers are not really up to par. if wenger makes another signing or two (bowyer?), i'd reckon they still have a 50/50 shot of repeating as champions.</strong>
Last season when Pires was just injured everyone said that it was a fatal blow for them, yet they responded by winning all the remaining games of the season (even beating us in Old Trafford). IMO they had the deepest squad in the PL which can deal with a few injury easily. Yes Wiltord and Kanu may not be world beaters, but as backup they are still much more well proven than Diego Forlan. Now they have bought a new CB and if they also bought Gerberto Silva as reported, I didn't see they have any appraent weakness.
<strong>liverpool will have babbel back @ RB, improving the league's best defence, and diouf should link up well with heskey and owen in a three-pronged attack. gerrard's injury problems should be behind him, and hamann is finally being recognized for the superb job he does in front of hyypia and henchoz. houllier's return should see heskey bounce back after a tough season, with the likes of murphy also continuing to improve. cheyrou has also shown promise, and could be the buy of the season (if his CL form last year is anything to go by). liverpool do need at least one more wide midfielder (duff/emerton) to really cement their chances of knocking off arsenal. </strong>
Can't see Houllier would play 3 striker. It's either Diouf or Heskey to partner Owen up front. They have bought a few inexpensive mediocres, but they still need a world class signing who can up their game into another level. As far as they don't bought Duff, I'm still not worrying a lot about them.
<strong>manchester united's signing of rio ferdinand should provide long term stability to their back 4. however, question marks still remain over rio's long term partner @ CB, with the likes of laurent blanc nearing the end of his career, and brown and o'shea still yet to prove themsleves as capable defenders. also, barthez, sivestre and the neville brothers are still prone to defensive errors, and this facet of their game must be eradicated in order for manchester united to reclaim the title. manchester united are particularly strong in the central midfield, but lack cover on both wings. as well, the striker ranks are beginning to look barren, with forlan yet to score, and ferguson not completely sold on OGS or scholes as a partner for RVN. the purchase of damien duff or claudio lopez would solve many of these problems, but kenyon has indicated tha no more players will be bought this summer. thus, a return to the top of the premiership is not the sure thing many fans and pundits would have you believe. </strong>
Now we have got Ferdinand, and Wes Brown & Silverstre can only become better when they continue to mature. The only worry of me is Barthez. If he can reproduce his form in his first year with us, then I'm confident that our defence problem is nearly solved. We still need a fast and skillful striker up front, otherwise we may not be able to break some very tough defence, such as Liverpool. It can't be a fluke for the scoursers to beat us 5 games in a row. There is definitely something we are missing up front, so that every time we seems to be clueless to break their defence.
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Gilberto Silva and vieira will be some pairing in the arsenal midfield...but the loss of ljunberg and pires for the early part of the season will hurt them. seaman will still be a liability in goal, and lauren does not strike me as a true RB. henry and bergkamp will do the business upfront, but kanu, wiltord, and jeffers are not really up to par. if wenger makes another signing or two (bowyer?), i'd reckon they still have a 50/50 shot of repeating as champions.<hr></blockquote>
You are wrong in a number of things. Parlour and Edu are excellent cover for the wingers. So is Van Brocnkhorst who is back. Very few teams in the lower half of premiership class teams would get through Arsenal with Silva and Vierra in the middle. Besides, Cygan is not likely to start the season at the back. And about Lauren, his switch to right back did help them win the title. HE can only get better there and he is rather better defensively than some natural right full backs. With Carini now on board. There are still league Favorites in my book. Especially since there strikers are not that poor as they still scored enough times to help them lift the title with some respectability infront of goal.
And about Jeffers you can't say he is not up to scratch when his entire season was blighted by injury. Let him have an injury free season then you will see if he is good or not.
liverpool will have babbel back @ RB, improving the league's best defence, and diouf should link up well with heskey and owen in a three-pronged attack. gerrard's injury problems should be behind him, and hamann is finally being recognized for the superb job he does in front of hyypia and henchoz. houllier's return should see heskey bounce back after a tough season, with the likes of murphy also continuing to improve. cheyrou has also shown promise, and could be the buy of the season (if his CL form last year is anything to go by). liverpool do need at least one more wide midfielder (duff/emerton) to really cement their chances of knocking <hr></blockquote>
Emerton is set for Leeds and Duff is likely to stay at Blackburn. My guess is Fadiga will be Houliier's nest signing. Liverpool will be much strnger than before but they will always struggle against small teams beacsue of Houlliers insistence on counter-attaacking defensive tactics. Even with a three man forward line he will still revert to a long ball option after opening the scoring instead of killing of teams while he can like they did to Leeds at Elland road. Besides, the offside king Diouf and the other players will take at least a couple of months to settle. So a apart from the defence, Liverpool are not strong enough to win the title. But I could be wrong.
manchester united's signing of rio ferdinand should provide long term stability to their back 4. however, question marks still remain over rio's long term partner @ CB, with the likes of laurent blanc nearing the end of his career, and brown and o'shea still yet to prove themsleves as capable defenders. also, barthez, sivestre and the neville brothers are still prone to defensive errors, and this facet of their game must be eradicated in order for manchester united to reclaim the title. manchester united are particularly strong in the central midfield, but lack cover on both wings. as well, the striker ranks are beginning to look barren, with forlan yet to score, and ferguson not completely sold on OGS or scholes as a partner for RVN. the purchase of damien duff or claudio lopez would solve many of these problems, but kenyon has indicated tha no more players will be bought this summer. thus, a return to the top of the premiership is not the sure thing many fans and pundits would have you believe. <hr></blockquote>
I ahe to tootaly dis agree with you here,. Manchester United's problems last year where inconsistency and complacency. Plus collective loss of form which was most prominent in Veron , Scholes and at first Bechkham. Every team goes through that probelm once in a while. and for United it was due to wining the title unchallenged for the last few years. Thist time things will defer greatly.
1. Pre-season will start with a settled defence. Unlike last season. Save for Gazza all our defenders wil play together in preseason. So they will be better used to each other and more organised come the seasons begining.
2. Brown is a worthy defender. Alongside Stam he proved it. Just Fergie put him under too much pressure last season and he bucled under it. But with Blanc and Rio to protect him he will flourish ike before. And for O'shea in the Champion's league he proved how good he was.
3. Apart from the first few games. Gazza had one of his best seasons in years. Same as Phizza. Silvestre was the only problem defensively. For his mistakes contributed to a large number of our defeats. If he can improve defensively the should not be a probelm in our defence at all. If not Fergie is bound to get a replacement.
4. Barthez had a bad early season like Becks. But after that he was awesome. Honestly, name one blunder he made after the half way point of the season that cost us a match? . You will find none.
5. Forlan just needed time to settle. Not that he has he prem will see how good he is. You can't have been a top scorer in South amerca if you were in capable of scoring. Look at angel. at Villa he took time to settle but now who is the top scorer there?
6. United only need a fourth striker for :
i) variety
ii) if they want to win the champions league.
Why you may ask? Because last year with all their problems United finished third with the most goals scored. The defence will improve this season greatly. The hunger that was not there last sesason will back. In addition, the form that abandoned player like Becks and Barthez earlier on, Van and Giis later, and Schole and Veron all season wil be back with a vengence. Remeber form is temporary but class is permenent. And believe me this United squad has class.
Therefore:
1. Better defending and goalkeeping = Less goals and defeats.
2. Less defeats = More points plus getting nearer to title
3. Forlan settling. = More goals +bettr goald difference.
Therefore. Come august if all teams played to their full potential in terms of sheer talent in the squad United are likely to win the title.
Thus sayeth the chief
Originally posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber:
<strong>6. United only need a fourth striker for :
i) variety
ii) if they want to win the champions league.
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Yes, so we definitely need a ourth striker.
Originally posted by Enrique Deschamps:
<strong>You are wrong
we really have no opponent but just ourselves</strong><hr></blockquote>
Too true. If we play to our potential then we win the league. Simple as that.
Originally posted by ronanm:
<strong>Pool or Arse? Newcie could also be v. dangerous IMO. Arse have only signed Cygan - complacency?</strong><hr></blockquote>
No MAAAAAAAAAAN! Manchester City will be the little surprise of the premier league this season, of course after Man Utd.
Soon they will only have one British player (Ashley Cole) in their starting lineup. If they can still win the league next season, it will be the first time a multi-nations team to win the PL.
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Didn't you forget Campbell?
Anyway, what worries me is the fact that they scored in every league games last season which just showed how robust their offense is. I hate to admit but they seem to have the pace (Henry/Wiltord) and creativity (Bergkamp/Pires) that we just couldn't match.
Although we scored more goals than they did, our attack wasn't really that convincing against good defensive teams. And I agree that we definitely need the 4th "drop-back" striker to give us another dimension that we currently lack in offense.
Originally posted by mu11:
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Didn't you forget Campbell?
Anyway, what worries me is the fact that they scored in every league games last season which just showed how robust their offense is. I hate to admit but they seem to have the pace (Henry/Wiltord) and creativity (Bergkamp/Pires) that we just couldn't match.
Although we scored more goals than they did, our attack wasn't really that convincing against good defensive teams. And I agree that we definitely need the 4th "drop-back" striker to give us another dimension that we currently lack in offense.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Oh, sorry, I have really forgotten Campbell
But their reducing of British players is also a fact. Hope this will become a weakness for them.
As for ourselves, now the no.9 shirt is still unoccupied, so I believe that there is quite a chance Fergie will still bring someone in soon.
Originally posted by Beckham007:
<strong>IMO you cant go past Arsenal.
They didnt win the premiership last year for no reason !
Henry will be looking to have a big year after the WC dissapointment, aswell as the other French stars.
I think there weak point is going to be Seamen though. Im happy they have faith in him because I wouldnt want someone as old as him in Unites goal.
Every year there is a surprise package. My surprise package for this year : Blackburn.
Especially if they keep Duff.
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Don't forget BORO for this year
Originally posted by sg:
<strong>Marty Feldman will have to take it easy anyway because of his ticker.
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Very clever. Twat.
Originally posted by ronanm:
<strong>Pool or Arse? Newcie could also be v. dangerous IMO. Arse have only signed Cygan - complacency?</strong><hr></blockquote>
the biggest threat to United is united under performing as they have been known to do in the past should that happen this year there are to many good youngsters ready to take their places. i'm sure SAF will wield the big stick iff they show any signs of weakness
Originally posted by ronanm:
<strong>Pool or Arse? Newcie could also be v. dangerous IMO. Arse have only signed Cygan - complacency?</strong><hr></blockquote>
the biggest threat to United is united under performing as they have been known to do in the past should that happen this year there are to many good youngsters ready to take their places. i'm sure SAF will wield the big stick iff they show any signs of weakness
Originally posted by benny:
<strong>If we didnt have such a shocking start to last season we would have pissed it yet again.This complacency will not be there this time around.Manchester utd will win the Championship this season.Manchester Utd will get to the final Of the Champions League this season.Manchester Utd will win the European Cup Final this season.Go and put your mortgage on it.Its going to happen.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I already see an ultimately complacency way of thinking in your reply.
Originally posted by usual_suspect:
<strong>PREDICTIONS:
1. liverpool
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Funny how you put your own team first init