Who should we buy...

i'd like to see mexes but why spend 15m +/- to get him when all you need is back up - keep larry as player-coach and promote tate to the first team. save the dough and go after cisse.
 
If Larry does decide to stay another year we won't need to buy another centre back. Don't forget we will have Gaz and Wes as options as well.
 
We have Brown covering CB/RB and should get a LB who can also be CB backup. That will be just fine for me. I wouldn't complain about a CB backup as long as the LB situation is dealt with, that's my priority.
 
Originally posted by antohan:
<strong>We have Brown covering CB/RB and should get a LB who can also be CB backup. That will be just fine for me. I wouldn't complain about a CB backup as long as the LB situation is dealt with, that's my priority.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agree...I think the LB position is the only one where we're really short. Besides JOS, Rio, and Wes, Gary and hopefully the new LB (and also Mikael) could cover the CB position if necessary. Also, David May is still around, isn't he? :)
 
Yes i think if Larry stays we will only need a left back ie. Escude cos he and Mickey can both play CB. Then gte a striker.
 
Never seen Escude play so i'll have to take your word for it.
Can't really come up with any left backs who we could realitically sign apart from Candala (or however its spelt, French bloke, plays in Italy i think)
 
Arent Derby in a precarious position financially? If by the time this transfer window reopens and they still need cash, wouldnt mind Riggott and/or Christie on the cheap. :D
 
I think if Blanc goes Mexes would be very Nice, not a neccessity. I prefer G Nev playing RB not CB and Wes has been unconvincing and injury prone but the priority has to be a striker, Totti would be nice!
 
I've only heard good things about Escude so i think he's going to be our best bet. It'll be interesting to see the competition between Brown and O'Shea to take the place of Blanc next season aswell.
 
Originally posted by Cantona:
<strong>I've only heard good things about Escude so i think he's going to be our best bet. It'll be interesting to see the competition between Brown and O'Shea to take the place of Blanc next season aswell.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't think there's much competition, John O'Shea is a rising star and Sir Alex has already said that he expects Rio and John to form a great partnership over the coming years. Wes will be used as cover for Gaz at right back.
I've heard a lot of good reports about Mexes, although never seen him play, but he's young so at centre back he may be a good option.
 
everything above makes sense buying cover etc but if LARRY does stay on for 1 more season what happens with sheazy i mean hes such a good defender but sir alex will play rio and larry to be thats stupid. Larry should retire, get a coaching role and then buy bring a youth player.
 
Originally posted by skivandam:
<strong>everything above makes sense buying cover etc but if LARRY does stay on for 1 more season what happens with sheazy i mean hes such a good defender but sir alex will play rio and larry to be thats stupid. Larry should retire, get a coaching role and then buy bring a youth player.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Surely Blanc is capable of sitting on the bench and filling in for John or Rio if they get injured. I can't see him getting many minutes if O'Shea continues to evolve into a star as he has. I think we can forget about Mexes or any other CB. We're probably buying Escude for depth at LB and that's all. Now on to the strikers..
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
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Surely Blanc is capable of sitting on the bench and filling in for John or Rio if they get injured. I can't see him getting many minutes if O'Shea continues to evolve into a star as he has. I think we can forget about Mexes or any other CB. We're probably buying Escude for depth at LB and that's all. Now on to the strikers..</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agreed, I'd rather have the option of playing Larry. He experience is vital especially when it comes to the CL. John and Rio have very limited experience in that competition.
 
Originally posted by laura:
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Puyol or Mexes</strong><hr></blockquote>

Puyol's a name i haven't heard thrown up before. I think he is a player of great talent. He looks very calm on the ball, but he's a right back isn't he?
Thought he had an excellent world cup for Spain.
 
If we're looking at a backup, then we should go for younger talents.

I think Gareth Barry (of Aston Villa) will do just great in this position that we're looking for. He's young, he can play both center back and left back, and he sure does seem to have the potential.

And besides this, we seem to had a lot of luck with Dwight Yorke realizing his true potential with us, so maybe Barry will be a similar case especially with our top notch coaches.
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
<strong>If we're looking at a backup, then we should go for younger talents.

I think Gareth Barry (of Aston Villa) will do just great in this position that we're looking for. He's young, he can play both center back and left back, and he sure does seem to have the potential.

And besides this, we seem to had a lot of luck with Dwight Yorke realizing his true potential with us, so maybe Barry will be a similar case especially with our top notch coaches.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Luck with Yorke. Hardly got a lot out of him compared to most other players.
 
Cafu may be the man! We need young players no more, we need experience...

For all those who believe otherwise, I'd just say feck off...
 
Originally posted by Ever hopefull:
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Puyol's a name i haven't heard thrown up before. I think he is a player of great talent. He looks very calm on the ball, but he's a right back isn't he?
Thought he had an excellent world cup for Spain.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Puyol and Phil Nev in the same team? Interesting tactic - the opposition will take one look at 'em and be too horrified to go near the penalty box!!
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
<strong>If we're looking at a backup, then we should go for younger talents.

I think Gareth Barry (of Aston Villa) will do just great in this position that we're looking for. He's young, he can play both center back and left back, and he sure does seem to have the potential.

And besides this, we seem to had a lot of luck with Dwight Yorke realizing his true potential with us, so maybe Barry will be a similar case especially with our top notch coaches.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I've seen Gareth Barry play, (he comes from my home town) and he will be good for backup, but he'll need to do a lot of improving to eventually come first team player
 
Don't want Larry to stay, no matter how good he is. It's basically an age thing: we seemed once to have an unwritten rule - when you hit 32 ish, you were on your way out. It kept the team young and focused.

I realise that diet and training can extend a career a bit longer now but Larry will be pushing 38 in a year or so, and that's the wrong signal for a world class team to be sending out to the rest of the world.

Part of the United approach is we're young, aggressive, quick and not old, slow and thoughtful.
 
Many are the players that will fall on a free transfer next years ( Ayala, Rustu, Cafu) but you need to think before splashing some cash on new players.

First we need to study where are the red devils weaknesses

1 a good left back ( currently we have only silvestre on the side)

My favourites are Chivu leftback and central back(10m) Sorin left back and left winger (8m) and Escude, all places in the defense (5m)

A real right winger as becks backup (unless forlan can adapt on this role*)

My faviorites are Castroman** (can play anywhere in midfield and also as right and left fullback)(5m)
2 Zambrotta**, right and left winger (10m)and 3 Doni** (6m)right,left, central midfield and forward.

A powerful stiker backup to Van Nistelrooy

Gudjahnsen (10m) Ibrahamovic (7m) Salas (12m)

and if scholes cannot adapt as forward, the we need a creative forward

1 Ronaldinho(15m) 2 Henry ( free we hope) 3 Doni (6m)

players to sell or dump

May(!m),P Neville(6M),Forlan*(5m), Fortune**(4m)
 
No one seems to b giving Tierney a chance at LB. SAF has said he's a rising star, he was teh reserve player of the year, is on the verge of breaking into the Rep of Ireland squad and will save us millions. I'd personally love to see Henry play for us or failing that Cisse. I'd let Mikey go and get Chivu as 1st choice LB and Tierney backing him up.
 
We have a ready made replacement for Larry in John O'Shea whom i think is going to be world class. Inspite of this though i can see us buying Mexes in the near future, to play with Rio, if this is the case i could see SAf trying to mould O'Shea into a left back (he has played there a few times this season and looked comfortable)

Other than Mexes i think we have to start looking at some wing cover and perhaps a long term replacement for Giggs. There are only two men I reckon are up for that job, Damien Duff & Joaquin of Betis, he is feckin class and we should get him before those Real feckers get their hands on him. Unrelastic as it would be amazing to buy him, he is unbelievable as anyone who watches Betis play will tell you.

And up front it should be Ronaldinho or Cisse.

Please dont get me wrong i'm not trying to ressurect the legend that is Kemo, this would by no means done at once but perhaps over the period of he next two seasons or so.
 
Originally posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber:
<strong>1 cover left back:Julien Escude
Blanc Replacement: Mexes or Hofland
1 cover winger: Dejan Stankovic/ Andres' D'allessandro/ Zamborotta
World class forwardto play inthe hole: Ronaldinho or Recoba

Thus says the chief.</strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> Nice one kemo
 
Originally posted by Gazza:
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<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> Nice one kemo</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />


Back to the original topic. I've heard that Escude can play both LB or CB. If it's true, then I think getting Escude is already enough for covering at the back.
 
Originally posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber:
<strong>What Kemo? I aint him!! :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>

You once claimed to be Kemo's brother using his computer so I would guess you are acquainted with him, ...Kemo. <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
 
Mexes would refuse to come as a back up even if he's only 20. He's already in the French squad, even if he hasn't played yet...
 
Originally posted by Elfie:
<strong>Mexes would refuse to come as a back up even if he's only 20. He's already in the French squad, even if he hasn't played yet...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Oh, but no one will tell him he won't be first choice my dear. ;)
 
Originally posted by darko:
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I'm a big backer of Puyol.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Puyol is one of the best RB of WC2002, so I definitely like him to join us. However I sense that Fergie still trust Gary Nev very much and there is also Brown to cover for the RB, so I think the chance is very small for Fergie to go for Puyol.
 
Julien Escude would do it for me. He is a D LC on CM, and the back line is basically Anglo-French anyway, so we might aswell carry on the trend.