Who plays on NYD

Gazza

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Really wouldnt want to have to choose 11 players to start on wed, but here goes:

------------- Fab -------------

O'Shea -- Rio -- Wes -- Silvestre

Becks -- Scholes -- Seba -- Diego

------ Ruud -- Ole --------

RVN should have recovered by then, although playing Roy would be pushing it. What i'd most like to see is a settled back four for a few games, and Diego given a proper run in the side.
 
im not sure about diego right wing, id personally plump with the side today, but with Ruud upfront in place of diego, whos on the bench. Its cruel to stick him on the bench, yes, but its him or ole on the bench. Or we could do ole left wing and ruud and diego upfront but then ud have to leave out scholes, keano or veron..tough choice, guess we'll have to wait and see
 
That's Diego on the left. I wouldnt mind in the team above Ole and Diego switching positions like they did today.
 
Ole deserves a break - poor little sod ;) has played in every game this season.

If a player needs a rest, then he should have one.
 
Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>Really wouldnt want to have to choose 11 players to start on wed, but here goes:

------------- Fab -------------

O'Shea -- Rio -- Wes -- Silvestre

Becks -- Scholes -- Seba -- Diego

------ Ruud -- Ole --------

RVN should have recovered by then, although playing Roy would be pushing it. What i'd most like to see is a settled back four for a few games, and Diego given a proper run in the side.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree & I like the line up!

Roy & Seba played together much better today than against Boro, in fact were it not for Fab's "Fab" saves, Veron would have been my MOM.

That said, Scholes deserves a run in the middle with a full squad in support but why not along side Roy instead of Seba? (assuming Keano's up for it) Bring Veron on after 45 minutes for either player based on performance?

I think Giggs will play on NYD and maybe Ole will get the rest this time. I think he looked tired and didn't play that well again today.

This team can win it! C'mon you Reds!
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Some (positive?) problems with the lineup for NYD.
Gary, does he come back to the lineup, and who's left out if he does.
Midfield, is giggsy staying out and if not who is dropped ?
If Ruud comes back who is dropped.

You could argue these are good problems, and I tend to agree, but it could turn out to be a problem, example: Phil Nev being dropped despite playing very good in the games before Keano came back.
I trust Fergie to make the right choices, as he usualy does.
 
Originally posted by Gazza:
[QB]Really wouldnt want to have to choose 11 players to start on wed, but here goes:

------------- Fab -------------

O'Shea -- Rio -- Wes -- Silvestre

Becks -- Scholes -- Seba -- Diego

------ Ruud -- Ole --------

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Sorry, but I prefer to see Giggs in LW, Forlan replace Ole and the Norwegian man is a second choice in RW.
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absolutely not, giggs perofmances overall, have been disgraceful the last few months. He deserves to be benched untill he bucks up his ideas, cruel, but IMO true.
You could look to rest ole, the poor lad hasnt had a rest all season but that may be risky, as the guy above me somewere (sorry lad, forgot ur name), i trust fergie to make the right decisions, and he usually does
 
Originally posted by CremboMan:
<strong>&lt;snip&gt; but it could turn out to be a problem, example: Phil Nev being dropped despite playing very good in the games before Keano came back.
I trust Fergie to make the right choices, as he usualy does.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm sure SAF will make the right decisions too. As for "Phizza", I recently referred to him as the new "Nobby". For those of you old enough to remember the United & England "cruncher" he could mark just about anybody out of a game given the task. Neville may well be earmarked for that role at MUFC.
The two have more in common than their style of football though, you may recall from old pictures of Nobby, like Phil, he was a real "looker" in his day. ;)
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I thought Wes and Rio didn't look the perfect combo today so I'd like to see Silvestre in the middle with Rio; Wes or Gaz at RB and JOS at LB. Roy was tons better than against Boro and clicked with Seba today too so leave it alone in the centre, Becks too. The left side is a problem when Giggs is off form but why not give Richardson a start, is is only Sunderland after all and it could give us a good look at him. Up front I'd rest Ole and start with Ruud and Diego. And drop Bartez - he was fecking crap today ;) <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by Red down under:
<strong> And drop Bartez - he was fecking crap today ;) <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Why not after all. A break wouldn't be too much, because the season will be long, we're still involved in four competitions.
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Originally posted by Elfie:
<strong>

Why not after all. A break wouldn't be too much, because the season will be long, we're still involved in four competitions.</strong><hr></blockquote>

:eek: Woah Elfie, I was only joking, I'd hate to rest Fab at the moment, he's on fire, if you can say that about a goalie.
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Originally posted by Red down under:
<strong>

:eek: Woah Elfie, I was only joking, I'd hate to rest Fab at the moment, he's on fire, if you can say that about a goalie.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I knew you were joking, but I sincerely thinks he should be rested and have a few days off. Carroll or Ricardo can replace him. The schedule is crazy in England.
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Originally posted by Red down under:
<strong>I thought Wes and Rio didn't look the perfect combo today so I'd like to see Silvestre in the middle with Rio; Wes or Gaz at RB and JOS at LB. today</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah, I'd like to see that option a couple of times too. I'm not Knocking the Rio-Wes combo though. As you say, they werer "not perfect" today but in fairness they haven't played together that often yet either.
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Simple:


Barthez
Blanc
Neville Brown Ferdinand Silvestre O'Shea
Phil Keane

Veron

Forlan

Tactics: Deep defending, steal the ball, pass it to Veron, Veron long ball to Forlan, and Forlan scores.


Bench:
Carrol
Becks
RVN
Scholes
Ole
 
Originally posted by Elfie:
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The schedule is crazy in England.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Remember, these people play fecking footy for a living and earn 50k / week. They have cope with 2 games / week. Tight schedule or not they are paid an obscene amount of money for a job that a three year old basically can learn in 2 hours whereas doctors who have studied for 10 years at university level work day and night and earn 1/100 of that. Think it's time to get some perspective into how tight the english schedule really is.
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Originally posted by SPACEY:
<strong>Elfie, how much time do they have off in France?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No games between 20th December and 11th January.
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Originally posted by AhmedDimwitson:
<strong>

Remember, these people play fecking footy for a living and earn 50k / week. They have cope with 2 games / week. Tight schedule or not they are paid an obscene amount of money for a job that a three year old basically can learn in 2 hours whereas doctors who have studied for 10 years at university level work day and night and earn 1/100 of that. Think it's time to get some perspective into how tight the english schedule really is.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Nothing to do with the money, a human body is a human body. The players may be too paid, but they aren't robots. One day or another the machine will break. It can lead them to doping. While our players play twice a week, the players from other championships have a rest. I did write last year on this forum : I don't want the French players playing in the Premiership to be tired for the next World Cup. And this is what happened. Henry, Vieira, Pires were tired or injured. But at least Ferguson rests his stars from time to time, unlike Wenger...If English traditions can't be broken, why not a truce in January ?
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My first choice for NYD is:


------------ Fab ------------
Gaz -- Wes – Mike – John
Becks – Keano – Seba – Giggs
------ Paul ------------------
------------- RVN ----------

or let’s give Richardson a chance to start on the left.
 
Our only difficulty is in away game so I don't really worry about this NYD home game against Sunderland. My team will be:

Barthez
O'Shea Rio Wes Micky
Becks Veron Keano Giggs/Richardson
Ruud Forlan
 
Originally posted by Nistelrooy10:
<strong>Simple:


Barthez
Blanc
Neville Brown Ferdinand Silvestre O'Shea
Phil Keane

Veron

Forlan

Tactics: Deep defending, steal the ball, pass it to Veron, Veron long ball to Forlan, and Forlan scores.


Bench:
Carrol
Becks
RVN
Scholes
Ole</strong><hr></blockquote>

are you mad? United are at home against Sunderland,why should they play 5 defenders??
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I think Solskjaer and Scholes both should be rested. Both looked tired today IMO. (This obviously impossible if Ruud can't play.)

I also think O'Shea could do with a rest. Sure, he doesn't look tired ATM but I think he'll benefit from it in the long run. He's very young, remember and it's better to rest him before he's getting tired.

As for Barthez getting rested I can't see why. He sure doesn't look like he needs it and the two coming cup matches are a better option IMO. Having that said tho, I think it's about time Ricardo were to play against an English team.

Finally I'd like to keep Giggs on the bench and give Richardson a game. Giggs didn't look happy today and an other match (or two) on the bench might well be the wake-up call he needs, remember Becks last season.

Team:

Barthez
Gaz - Rio - Wes - Micky
Becks - Keano - Veron - Richardson
Forlan - van Nistelrooy
 
BTW, I've read this morning that Sir Alex himself thinks a truce is needed :
"SIR ALEX Ferguson aimed an icy blast at football's rulers last night, claiming: "England will NEVER win the World Cup until we have a winter break."

Stars like David Beckham, Michael Owen and Sol Campbell face another gruelling month of Premiership and FA Cup madness while their continental counterparts put their feet up.

Ferguson insisted: "I'm not suggesting we scrap the Christmas programme because it is a tradition and something everyone in this country enjoys.

"But why not have three weeks or a month off in January? That would make sense.

"If we don't come into line with the rest of Europe then it will be very difficult for an England team ever to win the World Cup given the season the players have to endure."

The Manchester United boss has long campaigned for a January break - but his plea for an overhaul of the English domestic season has always fallen on deaf ears.

Ferguson added: "How many years have managers been speaking about the need for a winter break here and yet nothing has happened?"

"There should definitely be a break in January. Once you get through the demanding Christmas period you are exhausted.

"France and Holland take two weeks, Spain and Italy have a break and the Bundesliga in Germany shuts down for a month.

"Everyone saw how tired some English players looked in the World Cup.

"The German team was supposed to be one of their poorest of all time but they got to the final, and you would have to think their month-long break helped them to achieve that."

Instead of finishing the season on May 14 next year Ferguson believes clubs should have played on until the end of May - especially as England have a European qualifier with Slovakia in June.

He said: "England have a friendly in the last week of the season and then they have the qualifier in June, so wouldn't it have made more sense to play on through May?"

Ferguson is convinced United's infamous trip to Rio de Janiero in January 2000 to play in the World Club Championship helped them win the Premiership that season - even if they did cause uproar by pulling out of the FA Cup.

And, for once, he is on the same wavelength as his arch-rival, Arsene Wenger. The Arsenal manager is another strong advocate of the winter break.

He blamed France's shock failure in the World Cup on the fact so many of the national side were caught up in the Premiership grind.

Ferguson admitted: "When we went to Brazil three years ago it undoubtedly helped us. A mid-season break like that can be so beneficial. The first benefit is to get all the aches and pains out of the players.

"Then you can say to them, 'have a week's holiday' before building up towards the restart again."

Ferguson also believes a Premiership breather would help ailing lower division clubs in the FA Cup.

He explained" "I've always thought it really strange that the main cup competition starts in earnest on the first Saturday of January?

"For many clubs, the Cup is the last real hope of holding on to supporters for the rest of the season.

"Once a lot of clubs go out, the crowds start to go down.

"Premiership teams can hold on to crowds better because of their higher profile.

"But for the other clubs, why the hell get yourself knocked out on the 3rd of January when you can get yourself knocked out on the 3rd of February?

"You'd be foolish not to take the opportunity to have a break if it was offered.

"There might be a greed factor involved where some clubs would have a quick money-making tour somewhere, but it would be foolish not to take the opportunity to rest players at a vital time.

"You would see the benefits later in the season, as the Germans did in Japan and Korea."

But Ferguson knows the powers-that-be will take some convincing - "We've been pressing for a break for so long I'm not holding my breath," he said.
 
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