Who are the biggest transfer muppets this year?

This summer many people many could attribute that to us, yes. Especially on paper. I won't form my opinion until the season starts.

How could they? We got Owen on a free and sold Ronaldo for an enormous fee.

We've done well with our transfer dealings.

Serie A has been a waste of time for a fair while. Certainly not the barometer of a world class performer.

It's better to judge players from that than a couple of Champions League games a season.
 
No I can deny that...And I will. Kaka is more of a draw than Zlatan I'd say, regardless of how much Nike promote him. Because Kaka has done the business...was WPoTY, and is a world famous, good looking, Brazilian superstar

However I see your point

Commercially Kaka matters a lot to Madrid - particularly in South America. The loss of their Brazilian stars was actually costing them money with TV and sponsorship deals not being renewed etc and not all of it was about the economic crisis.

Zlatan? Doesn't even make the Top 10 most marketable list according to the analysts.

However, Real Madrid are clear winners of the Muppetry Award for the year. Forget the money spent. Any team that replaces its manager and five starters in one summer is demanding to be dressed in green and have its strings pulled. But that doesn't mean they've bought anyone they shouldn't have done or even paid the wrong money for them.

They face one final challenge. Pellegrini says he wants Xabi Alonso. Zidane is still nudging Perez about Ribery. If they fail to buy Alonso, but do buy Ribery the only thing they'll win will be Muppet of the Year / Decade.
 
A few years ago, most of the reds on the forum thought that Spurs weren't far off the top four. Only a few posters said they were actually a bit shit and would be midtable - storey was (predictably, perhaps) one of them.

I really dont think most of the guys in here thought that Spurs werent far off the top four.
 
Define 'done well' ... because it's left you with a weaker team/squad so far.

Got a great deal for Ronaldo, undoubtedly. Got Valencia at a pretty typical price. Got Michael Owen cheap. Sold Campbell for a pretty typical price.

We didn't overpay or undersell to any great degree, so did well with our transfer dealings.
 
Barca I'd say. To give away a player who is probably the best goalscorer in the world plus give 40m and get a lesser player in return. Strange.
 
Got a great deal for Ronaldo, undoubtedly. Got Valencia at a pretty typical price. Got Michael Owen cheap. Sold Campbell for a pretty typical price.

We didn't overpay or undersell to any great degree, so did well with our transfer dealings.
Done well financially, yes, but if it's so far left you with a weaker team/squad I don't see how you've 'done well' overall.

Of course the window has some way to run yet, but if you don't make any more signings then the suspicion must be that your debt levels are starting to bite.
 
Done well financially, yes, but if it's so far left you with a weaker team/squad I don't see how you've 'done well' overall.

Of course the window has some way to run yet, but if you don't make any futher signings then the suspicion must be that your debt levels are starting to bite.

Meh, we've gone on to great things in the past, after letting mega-stars go and replacing them with lesser lights. No reason to think the same won't happen again, especially with a team that at an age where we'll see improvements in almost every area of the pitch, as well as a couple of seriously talented young tyros knocking on the door of the first-team.
 
Define 'done well' ... because it's left you with a weaker team/squad so far.

The weaker team was inevitable. If a player of Ron's quality goes the idea that you can replace him with two other great players isn't just fantasy pricewise, it's fantasy in formation terms - you still only get 11 players on the field and no pair of players on the market could replace Ron and another United starter and strengthen the team.

There's no point paying over the odds for last year's stars or buying 8 x 10m maybes and hoping to get lucky. It's a lot more exciting to see if a Macheda or a Welbeck can become special, and to do it knowing we've got a proven goalscorer in Owen and a proven winger like Valencia. Plus there's still money in the piggie bank if someone interesting does come on the market.

= Done well
 
Done well financially, yes, but if it's so far left you with a weaker team/squad I don't see how you've 'done well' overall.

Of course the window has some way to run yet, but if you don't make any more signings then the suspicion must be that your debt levels are starting to bite.

Done as well as we could, considering our best player wanted to leave.

Must it? Very presumptuous.
 
Today we, and many others, focus on Barcelona and Zlatan Ibrahimovic. That's important for Barcelona's sponsors and the people of Catalonien.

Like a said to Noodle. You have to see the bigger picture regarding why Barcelona bought Ibrahimovic.
So...the bigger picture is that they get people chatting about them for a week during the off-season? And that that is worth, in your opinion, £50m or so? That's absurd.

By the way, it looks like Hleb is going to Stuttgart for the season, so for those of you trying to figure out how good or bad the Zlatan deal was for Barca, factor that in.
 
So...the bigger picture is that they get people chatting about them for a week during the off-season? And that that is worth, in your opinion, £50m or so? That's absurd.

By the way, it looks like Hleb is going to Stuttgart for the season, so for those of you trying to figure out how good or bad the Zlatan deal was for Barca, factor that in.

Etóo only had one year left on his contract. Laporta needed a boost to show Barca means biz. It costed Barcelona approx €45m and now they have Zlatan on a 5-year contract. On top of that they have good publicity and they ended the RM-hysteria.

If Zlatan is level with Etóo future will tell. But the other option was far more worse. So in the end the deal make sense. But not for you.
 
It does makes sense - for footballing reasons. But to think that a major factor was getting a couple days of off-season buzz is, to me, absurd. I don't think Laporta has to do anything to show he means business, the minute they take the pitch again everyone will see that. As for sponsors, when they consider where to spend their advertising and sponsorship money, they look at TV viewers, brand recognition/loyalty, financial records, success on the pitch, etc. They don't read tribalfootball.com.

Also for some reason I feel like being a dick about this.
 
Etóo only had one year left on his contract. Laporta needed a boost to show Barca means biz. It costed Barcelona approx €45m and now they have Zlatan on a 5-year contract. On top of that they have good publicity and they ended the RM-hysteria.

If Zlatan is level with Etóo future will tell. But the other option was far more worse. So in the end the deal make sense. But not for you.

Nope not really, that Star Destroyer is still marching on, regardless of if Barca over pay for a striker. Zlatan is a great player but come on 45 mil, PLUS Eto'o and Hleb; Inter milan made a steal. If anything the deal said that City and Real dont have the market locked down on crazy as LaPorta has also indulged in absinthe quite often this summer.

The deal made sense, yes, that is true, the terms and what not didnt